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Will Tezos dump below ICO price? YES OR NO

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Disgusting Dun Potus
  07/05/18
Fma
Multi-colored insane field
  07/05/18
Hopefully not before I get home
Multi-colored insane field
  07/05/18
Isn't it 5 or 6 times the ICO price?
Titillating cuckoldry resort
  07/05/18
LOL no. ICO price is like $0.40. It's not going to fall be...
Onyx menage
  07/05/18
But btc ico price? Maybe
flatulent shrine psychic
  07/05/18
Would be pretty kooky
Navy Chad
  07/05/18
it's already only 30% above ICO price in BTC, although peopl...
exhilarant travel guidebook native
  07/05/18
Going to ICO in BTC or ETH wouldn't be that kooky
Navy Chad
  07/05/18
Why not? I didn’t realize tezzies come with an option ...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/05/18
You sound like a student or someone who has never worked out...
Onyx menage
  07/06/18
Interesting. I just finished reviewing a 15 tab accretion di...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/06/18
Wow you sound cool and fun
Lemon bull headed hell
  07/06/18
Thanks bro
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/06/18
Do you have to return some video tapes?
Navy Chad
  07/06/18
Aka you pressed a button
Multi-colored insane field
  07/06/18
Ha yeah pretty much. But i made that shit sounds way more im...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/06/18
lmao at pretending investment bankers do anything hard and t...
exhilarant travel guidebook native
  07/06/18
Meh. The work isnt rocket science but you need a mix of prob...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/06/18
Date: July 5th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: ETH dunking on Skadde...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  12/06/18
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Stimulating mahogany turdskin
  12/06/18
I literally cant unload this shit HITBTC is not taking de...
Multi-colored insane field
  07/05/18
unless you bought a shitton and want to offload a portion to...
exhilarant travel guidebook native
  07/05/18
...
lavender indirect expression national
  07/05/18
i sold mine for 2 bucks on gate io. i’m american as apple pi...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/06/18
Have u withdrawn?
Multi-colored insane field
  07/06/18
Yes
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/06/18
May go for it tonight
Multi-colored insane field
  07/06/18
You’ll have to kyc (use your drivers licence) to withdraw bu...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/06/18
I sold 80% of mine at 2 bucks a pop. I intend to forget that...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/05/18
highly bumpable poast right here
Navy Chad
  07/05/18
bumpable by me lol
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/06/18
Agreed
big mustard lay factory reset button
  08/13/18
Date: July 5th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: a mitigated 180 hig...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  12/06/18
When moon
lavender indirect expression national
  07/05/18
LJL
180 nighttime property stock car
  07/08/18
I cant believe people still do this. I’m embarassed to have ...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/08/18
Just do sell low and brag about it bro
180 nighttime property stock car
  07/08/18
Just do celebrate random wild swings of an illiquid market a...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/08/18
I dont understand why you couldn’t just wait another year af...
wonderful know-it-all pit
  07/08/18
My view is it’ll be a while before a major exchange lists it...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/08/18
Just do panic sell into an illiquid market, failing to recog...
180 nighttime property stock car
  07/08/18
...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  08/13/18
It turns out “LJL” isn’t really a coherent investment thesis
big mustard lay factory reset button
  08/13/18
...
Navy Chad
  07/08/18
lol dumbass
marvelous sapphire main people
  07/08/18
This is the twilight zone. Note I’ve probably made 1000x mor...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  07/09/18
sup
big mustard lay factory reset button
  08/02/18
Ur poast inspired me to dump ty breh
Multi-colored insane field
  08/13/18
Sup
big mustard lay factory reset button
  08/13/18
Date: July 8th, 2018 9:31 PM Author: .,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  12/06/18
Very close to ICO BTC price
Disgusting Dun Potus
  07/05/18
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tan athletic conference
  07/06/18
Surging to $2.45 at the moment, passing VEN in MC for the #1...
lavender indirect expression national
  07/08/18
ljl @ sellcucks
Stirring Doctorate Church Building
  07/08/18
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tan athletic conference
  07/08/18
recommend buying? i think it's junk like EOS, but could achi...
Arousing Feces Gaping
  07/08/18
Sorry XYZ no coiners, this does not appear to be going down ...
lavender indirect expression national
  07/18/18
Chandler better not sellcuck. He’s rich now anyway
wonderful know-it-all pit
  07/18/18
I’m poorer now than I was when I was wagecucking
hyperventilating ivory clown
  07/19/18
Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth ...
tan athletic conference
  07/19/18
https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Thrice-of-dust-a...
hyperventilating ivory clown
  07/19/18
Fuck my ass, I was pretty sure this wouldn't happen and now ...
lavender indirect expression national
  08/13/18
I feel no great joy for being right itt because you’re not e...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  08/13/18
oh hey guys! liquidating at $2 a pop feels mighty nice right...
big mustard lay factory reset button
  09/08/18
(fag)
Stirring Doctorate Church Building
  09/10/18
...
brilliant jewess market
  09/10/18
...
Navy Chad
  09/10/18
who was this?
fighting site
  08/16/20
We have an answer folks!
big mustard lay factory reset button
  12/06/18
Lol
Stimulating mahogany turdskin
  12/06/18
...
fighting site
  08/15/20


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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Disgusting Dun Potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367546)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: Multi-colored insane field

Fma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367611)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Multi-colored insane field

Hopefully not before I get home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367614)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: Titillating cuckoldry resort

Isn't it 5 or 6 times the ICO price?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367748)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 11:53 AM
Author: Onyx menage

LOL no. ICO price is like $0.40. It's not going to fall below the value of all of it's assets (i.e., all of the eth and btc it raised, some of which I suspect has been converted to cash, although I've not followed that closely)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367778)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: flatulent shrine psychic

But btc ico price? Maybe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36367961)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: Navy Chad

Would be pretty kooky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36368208)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: exhilarant travel guidebook native

it's already only 30% above ICO price in BTC, although people who bought in ETH are still way ahead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36369555)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: Navy Chad

Going to ICO in BTC or ETH wouldn't be that kooky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370298)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Why not? I didn’t realize tezzies come with an option to flip them into bitcoin/ether. The “LOL” in all caps is especially precious.

The floor is 0.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370173)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: Onyx menage

You sound like a student or someone who has never worked outside of litigation, so it's precious that you'd opine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36373748)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 11:49 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Interesting. I just finished reviewing a 15 tab accretion dilution model and fixed it because an analyst forgot to use run rate synergies to calculate pro forma EPS. you have no idea what I just said but it isn’t litigation lmao.

Remind me what you do again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374674)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: Lemon bull headed hell

Wow you sound cool and fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374740)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Thanks bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374764)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: Navy Chad

Do you have to return some video tapes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374870)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Multi-colored insane field

Aka you pressed a button

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36375973)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Ha yeah pretty much. But i made that shit sounds way more impressive than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36376121)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: exhilarant travel guidebook native

lmao at pretending investment bankers do anything hard and the fact that they brag about their MAD EXCEL SKILLZ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36376187)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Meh. The work isnt rocket science but you need a mix of problem solving skills, attention to detail and business sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36376423)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Date: July 5th, 2018 11:53 AM

Author: ETH dunking on Skadden Assoc (joeybank)

LOL no. ICO price is like $0.40. It's not going to fall below the value of all of it's assets (i.e., all of the eth and btc it raised, some of which I suspect has been converted to cash, although I've not followed that closely)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37358540)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: Stimulating mahogany turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37359597)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Multi-colored insane field

I literally cant unload this shit

HITBTC is not taking deposits

gate.io does not allow USmos to withdraw

fuck my literal ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36369857)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: exhilarant travel guidebook native

unless you bought a shitton and want to offload a portion to mitigate risk (and take nice profits if you bought in eth) you may as well just hodl for a while at this point. within five years it's either going to 0 or going to be relevant and worth a good amount. if you only have like 10-20k just let it roll.

plus this seems to be a common pattern for "serious" coins. ZIL immediately mooned hard and then cratered, but now it's holding stable. tezos just had an extended post-ICO moon phase because futures were around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36369942)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: lavender indirect expression national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370020)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:13 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

i sold mine for 2 bucks on gate io. i’m american as apple pie.

youre confusing the wink nod disclaimer for actually caring about excluding americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36372401)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: Multi-colored insane field

Have u withdrawn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36373793)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374678)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Multi-colored insane field

May go for it tonight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36375967)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

You’ll have to kyc (use your drivers licence) to withdraw but I got mine approved in a few hours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36376133)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

I sold 80% of mine at 2 bucks a pop. I intend to forget that it ever existed now. Have fun asking when moon ad nauseaum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370182)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: Navy Chad

highly bumpable poast right here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370316)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

bumpable by me lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36372404)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610382)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Date: July 5th, 2018 7:24 PM

Author: a mitigated 180

highly bumpable poast right here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37358530)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: lavender indirect expression national

When moon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370375)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: 180 nighttime property stock car

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36384896)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

I cant believe people still do this. I’m embarassed to have involved myself in crypto and the long term value propostion is still trash. No one knows what its actually worth so of course the price swings wildly. I just wanted to take my 5x profit and wash off the stench of involving myself with this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36385633)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: 180 nighttime property stock car

Just do sell low and brag about it bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386056)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 6:23 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Just do celebrate random wild swings of an illiquid market alongside people making the most retarded investment arguments of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386730)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: wonderful know-it-all pit

I dont understand why you couldn’t just wait another year after holding this long. Tezos is favored to be listed by coinbase...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386738)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

My view is it’ll be a while before a major exchange lists it given the regulatory risk. And the ongoing litigation feels like a dangling ax. Fuck that crypto is risky enough without that overhang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36387219)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 6:49 PM
Author: 180 nighttime property stock car

Just do panic sell into an illiquid market, failing to recognize obvious signs of slippage from overselling, and then get MAF when it recovers, LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386934)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610389)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

It turns out “LJL” isn’t really a coherent investment thesis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610386)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: Navy Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36387014)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: marvelous sapphire main people

lol dumbass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36387994)



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Date: July 9th, 2018 12:54 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

This is the twilight zone. Note I’ve probably made 1000x more than you ever will on crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36389175)



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Date: August 2nd, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36542673)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: Multi-colored insane field

Ur poast inspired me to dump ty breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36609386)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610392)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

Date: July 8th, 2018 9:31 PM

Author: .,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.

lol dumbass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37358533)



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Date: July 5th, 2018 8:06 PM
Author: Disgusting Dun Potus

Very close to ICO BTC price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36370589)



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Date: July 6th, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: tan athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36374108)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: lavender indirect expression national

Surging to $2.45 at the moment, passing VEN in MC for the #18 spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36384494)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: Stirring Doctorate Church Building

ljl @ sellcucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36384683)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: tan athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36386585)



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Date: July 8th, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Arousing Feces Gaping

recommend buying? i think it's junk like EOS, but could achieve similar gains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36387316)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: lavender indirect expression national

Sorry XYZ no coiners, this does not appear to be going down below ICO prices just yet

Currently at $2.34 or around 6X ICO price in $ and just passed BNB for the #17 spot and still only on one shitty exchange



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36455208)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: wonderful know-it-all pit

Chandler better not sellcuck. He’s rich now anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36456958)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: hyperventilating ivory clown

I’m poorer now than I was when I was wagecucking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36459670)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: tan athletic conference

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36460934)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: hyperventilating ivory clown

https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Thrice-of-dust-and-nations-lyrics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36461956)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: lavender indirect expression national

Fuck my ass, I was pretty sure this wouldn't happen and now I'm envisioning a future competing with Peterman on the lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36609332)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

I feel no great joy for being right itt because you’re not exactly a group of genius hedge fund portfolio managers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36610403)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

oh hey guys! liquidating at $2 a pop feels mighty nice right now! pls tell me more about the “fundamentals” of an “asset” with no apparent capacity to generate future cash flows. nah i’m just playing: doing so just perverts the concept of investment fundamentals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36770773)



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Date: September 10th, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Stirring Doctorate Church Building

(fag)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36783761)



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Date: September 10th, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: brilliant jewess market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36783838)



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Date: September 10th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: Navy Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#36784244)



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Date: August 16th, 2020 4:41 PM
Author: fighting site

who was this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#40765104)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: big mustard lay factory reset button

We have an answer folks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4018285&forum_id=7#37358523)



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Date: December 6th, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Stimulating mahogany turdskin

Lol

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Date: August 15th, 2020 4:44 PM
Author: fighting site



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