Facing felony charges...should I even bother with law school?
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Date: January 30th, 2010 11:56 PM Author: habeascorpus
(For matters of state-specific law, I'm in GA.)
So basically I was really irresponsible and sold prescription drugs to make money for a while. In April 2009 the cops were called to a house I was hanging out at for some reason or another and I was busted with about 300 Xanax and Suboxone. I'm facing two felony counts of possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute. Because of the circumstances of my case, my attorney is fairly confident it will be dropped. The officers simply did not have probable cause to enter the house and arrest me, and so the evidence will most likely be suppressed.
What I'd like to know is how this impacts my chances of success in the legal field. Even if the charges are dismissed and the arrest expunged, obviously I will have to disclose this in the C & F process. While I'm not too worried about being denied admission to the bar, I wonder if I'll ever have a shot at having a successful career. I'm sure firms are swamped with applications without the stain of felony charges...
I'm currently in undergrad, majoring in economics. My goal is to do biglaw for a few years to pay off loans, then possibly become a prosecutor (ironic, isn't it?). If I get really high grades and LSAT, go to a top school and am in the very top of the class, is it possible that my tainted past will be overlooked? I really hate the idea of being judged for the rest of my life for something I did when I was only 20 years old. I mean, it's not like I raped or killed anyone...
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Date: February 7th, 2010 10:53 PM Author: gozamah Subject: street cred
Well, dude, you can't work for the feds as a lawyer. Any agency that requires an SSBI (look it up) and a favorable adjudication from it will nix you. So kiss your ass goodbye to USAOs/DOJ. You have to report your arrest, btw, regardless of the outcome. (Well, maybe you can apply when you're 55 and wise.)
A state supreme court--the body that regulates lawyers--may or may not admit you. If you're convicted, I hope to god that it doesn't. A felony conviction is grounds for disbarment.
But....if you manage to get admitted, criminal defense is the field for you. You'll have street cred, especially w/pill pushers.
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Date: January 31st, 2010 12:37 AM Author: Seriously, fuck Obama (Obamageddon is upon us)
If you don't get convicted, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
You're not going to put an arrest on your fucking resume.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1207735&forum_id=2#13967683) |
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Date: January 31st, 2010 1:08 AM Author: ...,,.,..,....,,..,,...,..,.,,..,,..............,.
"No, but if a grocery store refuses to hire me because of charges showing up on my background check, why wouldn't a more prestigious employer?"
flame or stupidity? what employer would give a fuck about arrests without convictions? people are falsely arrested all the fucking time.
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Date: January 31st, 2010 1:17 AM Author: ...,,.,..,....,,..,,...,..,.,,..,,..............,.
cops frequently harass poors for no good reason. if you lost the socioeconomic lottery, chances are good that you've been arrested a few times for BS.
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Date: January 31st, 2010 10:22 AM Author: HHHPP
I think this might depend on which state you are in, but I am fairly certain that, at least in a few states, even if asked explicitly, you do not have to disclose anything except for arrests that led to actual convictions (ie if you asked if you have been arrested, you only need answer yes if you were later convicted).
I don't think private employers have access to police reports and arrests. I think they only have access to public court records (only convictions).
Not 100% sure about this, so do more research and get back to us.
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Date: February 5th, 2010 11:16 PM Author: .,,..,..,,..,...,,..,.
This is how it should be. If merely being arrested by a gov't official could prevent you from becoming a lawyer, arrests would have to comply with 14th Amendment procedural due process requirements. It's a hazy area, but the cop's procedures here certainly wouldn't pass the test.
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Date: January 31st, 2010 11:21 AM Author: ,...,,.,.,,, , , .. ,,.,.,,...,,.,.,,,..,.,
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Date: January 31st, 2010 11:27 AM Author: ,...,,.,.,,, , , .. ,,.,.,,...,,.,.,,,..,.,
PC to enter a house without a warrant is hard.
PC to check his pockets is much easier, and once they found the drugs on him, they had every reason to arrest him
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Date: January 31st, 2010 1:28 PM Author: habeascorpus
I was never outside, though. I opened the door to walk outside at the same time they were approaching the house. I closed the door when they were at least 20-30 feet away without setting foot outside. If that's not invoking your 4th Amendment rights and refusing to let them in, I don't know what is.
Furthermore, in court, the arresting officer testified that he only "called out to talk to me" before I closed the door. He didn't say "Freeze!" or "Halt!" or anything to indicate he was conducting a valid Terry stop. Therefore, this was a voluntary first-level encounter with the police and I was well within my rights to refuse. The police had no business opening the door and running in after me.
Furthermore, they arrested me for "obstruction" and used that as the pretext to search me. What grounds did they have to arrest me? That I didn't want to talk to them?
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Date: February 1st, 2010 12:59 PM Author: habeascorpus
No. I'd rather not say the specific city.
And why does everything think I'm making this up?
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Date: January 31st, 2010 11:34 AM Author: ;';;;;;..;;;..;.;;.;.;....;;;
I think this is a flame. How many real OL actually know and come on this site. Either that, or this guy is a cop trying to get us disbarred for giving legal advice out. I smell a rate.
On the slim chance I am wrong I offer the following.
Oh and this is not legal advice, if you want legal advice go to a lawyer. The best I can give you is some religious council. :)
But I think your fine. Just pray about it, and God should tell you if he wants you to go to law school. :-) And don't be this stupid again! Committing Felonies in no way ever is in your best interest! This is not Oceans 11! Most people get caught and do go to jail. You got really lucky these "foolish" cops messed up. Now don't jeopardize your future and make something of yourself! Whether that's practicing law or some other field, that's between you and God.
Oh and stop selling drugs!! What where you thinking???
Oh and if you don't get right with God your just going to end doing something else unethical someday and get disbarred. You have a history of breaking the law, that's nearly impossible to stop without some serious divine intervention. I recommend you start by reading the Gospels, Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. Jesus is the only one that change your heart man. :-) <<End of religious rant. :-)>>
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Date: January 31st, 2010 2:51 PM Author: ...,....,,,,.,.,.,
This is awful, unfunny flame
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Date: January 31st, 2010 11:38 AM Author: ..........,,,,,,,,,,..............,,,,,,,,
Take the LSAT test without prep.
Post results here
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Date: February 1st, 2010 8:42 PM Author: ;';;;;;..;;;..;.;;.;.;....;;;
I guess these cops are not familiar with probable cause or the need for a warrant before searching a home. I actually feel sorry for you in a sense. You should not have been committing felonies true.
But these cops completely denied you your constitutional rights by conducting a clearly illegal search, arresting you on false charges, and then lying about the whole ordeal. I am sure this is the not the first time people have been mistreated by these officers. The good news is things like this catch up to people like that and they will likely be dismissed from the force for breaking with procedure. So hopefully you will be the last person to suffer through something like this.
Think of this false arrest as mild reminder on why not to commit felonies. You really dodged a bullet here. Your life would have been over if these cops had actually done things by the book. :-)
I still think the bible holds the answers your looking for, but I am a religious nut. :-)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1207735&forum_id=2#13984996) |

Date: February 9th, 2010 11:27 AM Author: habeascorpus
Specifically, I'd like to know if the arrest/indictment/etc. by itself would impact my chances of working for the federal government. Obviously if I'm actually convicted there's no chance...but what if the charges are dismissed? I take it any kind of job in DOJ is completely out of the question either way:
"Security and Suitability Issues (Background Investigation): Candidates who accept an offer must undergo a full field background investigation conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). The investigation includes a name and fingerprint check; interviews with references, close personal associates, former spouses, former employers, co-workers, neighbors, landlords, and educational institutions; and a thorough check of credit, military, tax, and police records. The background investigation covers a period of seven to ten years. This process may take seven months or more to complete."
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Date: February 9th, 2010 11:32 AM Author: ,.,.,.,,,.,..,.,.
cans? panties?
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