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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:12 AM Author: arousing peach shrine I have until august 31 until im officially out the door. no obligation to do any work (passed off the few assignments i had already).
i had billed ~500 hours since starting in september. my group (corp) had been ridiculously slow and apparently they let me and a couple other midlevels go.
killself? i know odds are slim that ill find another biglaw gig. i started with 160K debt and have like 148k left. i have no idea wtf to do and im just shocked/in denial. |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:13 AM Author: Ungodly Skinny Woman Forum fucking out the firm bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816117) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:46 AM Author: excitant garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816287) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:33 AM Author: Mustard odious masturbator fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343278) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 9:52 PM Author: Crusty razzle-dazzle cuck friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347635) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:04 PM Author: wonderful hospital NOW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352251) |
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Date: April 18th, 2018 3:23 AM Author: hyperventilating dashing multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35865498) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:23 PM Author: orange galvanic property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35878661) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:14 PM Author: irradiated sandwich not in law but cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352328) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 12:38 AM Author: diverse garnet goal in life background story how did you only pay down 12k in debt in an entire year of biglaw salary. you spend too much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21349549) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 12:39 AM Author: Nudist Glittery Mad Cow Disease Heaven Or knows they're going to get canned and saves up a bunch of $ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21349558) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 1:23 AM Author: diverse garnet goal in life background story it doesn't sound like op was expecting this can job, despite billing <60 hours per month for an entire year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21349758) |
Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:13 AM Author: floppy slate philosopher-king round eye vault range? any firm that stealths a first year deserves outing, bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816115) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:14 AM Author: arousing peach shrine v30. dont wanna out bc im the only first yr in the group and want to maintain dat severance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816119) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:15 AM Author: floppy slate philosopher-king round eye v20-30? nyc? how much severance? flame requires details breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816121) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:15 AM Author: arousing peach shrine v30 nyc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816128) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:47 AM Author: excitant garrison v30 NYC? This is a need to know situation. OUT. THE FIRM. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816291) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 12:35 PM Author: floppy slate philosopher-king round eye is nyc their hq office? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817149) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 10:32 AM Author: Indigo Parlor Marketing Idea Doobs tirelessly tracks pages of 1st years in v30s waiting for a dead link. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21350768) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 12:04 PM Author: tantric bawdyhouse volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21351332) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:25 PM Author: french bateful indirect expression lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35878666) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:15 AM Author: Iridescent pontificating native regret i wonder what percentage of first years in his practice group got stealthed. billing 500 hours over nine months is laughably pathetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816126) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:51 AM Author: know-it-all dingle berry whorehouse Your post is ambiguous, but blaming the kid is wrong. You can bill if you don't have work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343377) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:15 AM Author: swashbuckling arrogant doctorate main people you've been billing ~60 hours a month for 8 months and are shocked you're being fired? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816125) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:16 AM Author: arousing peach shrine well i knew things were bad but wtf was i supposed to do? not like i had any control over my work flow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816129) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 1:05 PM Author: lascivious sooty rigpig drag that shit out. if you haven't billed 8 hours in a day, find something to work on or take longer to do the work you have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817239) |
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Date: April 18th, 2018 2:45 AM Author: Marvelous cyan trailer park and then no one wants to work with you because you are inefficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35865458) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:26 PM Author: Nudist Glittery Mad Cow Disease Heaven (guy efficiently responding 6 years later to email) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35878672) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:31 PM Author: motley french chef spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35878695) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:23 AM Author: Marvelous cyan trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188110) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:31 PM Author: Mahogany sanctuary Hustle and get work from clients (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35878694) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:16 AM Author: Blue Becky what's your severance package? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816134) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:17 AM Author: arousing peach shrine 3 months of a paycheck with no obligation to do any work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816139) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 12:37 PM Author: contagious plaza That's actually pretty fair. However, the advantage of having a job the last 3 months you look is somewhat lost on you since no one is going to hire a 1L who is looking to leave BIGLAW after less than a year. They will think you are a flunky who couldn't hack it in BIGLAW or alternatively know you were laid off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817153) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:52 AM Author: know-it-all dingle berry whorehouse Is this Ropes & Gray? I've had a refugee from that firm tell me that that's their MO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343381) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 8:52 PM Author: idiotic jew mad-dog skullcap McDermott has done this to a lot of first year associates in the past five years. Almost 100% of their corporate first years, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347166) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 9:53 PM Author: Disturbing Burgundy Station Kitty Cat wait what? is this true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347656) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:17 AM Author: Gay depressive Flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816145) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:18 AM Author: arousing peach shrine i wish brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816152) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:19 AM Author: Iridescent pontificating native regret Yes. Even if he had no expectation to bill heavily his stub year (say he billed none at all) and kicked things into gear this year, he'd only have 500 hours to show for five months. Come on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816162) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:19 AM Author: Effete vigorous party of the first part Just do USAJERBS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816158) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:19 AM Author: mauve meetinghouse sucks brother. sorry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816159) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:21 AM Author: arousing peach shrine thanks man. any advice? i only have 5k saved up. deferred loans the day i got canned and plan on stashing away my checks to hold me over until i find a job. science ug with a high gpa. im thinking of getting my cert and teaching. sick of the fucking law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816174) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:28 AM Author: mauve meetinghouse teaching plus ibr doesn't sound bad if you think you'll be able to stand teaching. and yea law is shit; i can't think of a great reason to rush off into transactional shitlaw (which so far as i know largely doesn't exist) to avoid conceding that you wasted a fair years of your life. too many of us including perhaps me have ended up falling victim to the sunken cost fallacy. no reason to join us, and less incentive when the golden handcuffs have been removed so quickly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816219) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 3:35 AM Author: Ultramarine crawly institution "science ug with a high gpa."
1) try to get firm to pay for patent bar course and exam fees; if not, cop a self-study course off eBay
2) get on dat university tech transfer office tip; they might want someone with your transactional background (esp. if that's a bio, chem, or BME UG degree) and they're always hiring (check out the AUTM career center for a start)
3) ???
4) enjoy $75k starting, 9-5, zero stress lifestyle in sweet college town, rising to low six figures once you get a few years in |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 8:54 PM Author: idiotic jew mad-dog skullcap think about the patent office. they are hiring science ugs like crazy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347179) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:19 AM Author: floppy slate philosopher-king round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816164) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:20 AM Author: Bespoke Public Bath Juggernaut What LS? Class rank?
500 seems ungodly low though. |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:21 AM Author: arousing peach shrine lower t14, top 1/4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816180) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:24 AM Author: arousing peach shrine gonna kill this bottle of jameson and hit up my bootycall in a bit to numb the pain. fuck i have 4 months left on my lease (2300/month) which will eat up a good chunk of my 3 months pay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816200) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:24 AM Author: floppy slate philosopher-king round eye weak flame breh. thanks for playing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816204) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 1:22 PM Author: irate mint toaster gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817293) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:48 AM Author: excitant garrison post a pic of the jameson or it didn't happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816294) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:47 AM Author: carmine electric private investor den Move out now breh. Forget the deposit. What's the contract law term for an economically sensible breach? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343346) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:03 PM Author: Autistic theater he would be liable for the rent whether he lives there or not, unless he can find someone to take over his lease or something b4 he breaches, and then tell the landlord he has a duty to mitigate dmgs by taking the next willing lessee (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347766) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:10 PM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth in the real world the transaction costs of getting a judgment for such a small amount against a recently fired dead broke shithead would likely protect him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347875) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:13 PM Author: Autistic theater $10k isn't that small. people get sued for that amount all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347911) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:25 PM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth yeah, but that would take a particularly spiteful landlord who would simply leave the apartment empty to try to fuck you.
If you explain the situation to the landlord and he's not pure evil, the landlords damages will be a month, and probably not even a full month if the pad is nice. |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:13 PM Author: carmine electric private investor den Also in the real world little brehs statement of the law is incorrrect. Does he think people can only move to another state at the end of their lease, lest they face judgment for $20K? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347917) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:14 PM Author: Autistic theater what the fuck are you talking about dude. do u really think leases mean nothing for landlords? lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347934) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:23 AM Author: carmine electric private investor den Outside of Barbri they mean only that the LL can keep your deposit if you bail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21349996) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:59 PM Author: impressive spectacular church building black woman
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:12 PM Author: carmine electric private investor den Oh, he's a commercial tenant? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347895) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:13 PM Author: Autistic theater wut? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347918) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:26 PM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth NYSdifferentfromthemajorityrulepwn3d (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21348069) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 10:55 AM Author: know-it-all dingle berry whorehouse Hope he didn't take the New York bar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21350887) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:09 PM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth efficient breach (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347862) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 3:19 PM Author: crimson dilemma ratface good idea. pretty soon you'll be so anxious you won't be able to get a boner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352776) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 3:41 AM Author: Talking Canary Corner Congrats on losing life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20816452) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 12:32 PM Author: arousing peach shrine Fuck bros, raging hangover from the Jameson. On the bright side, bootycall feels bad and is treating me to brunch. If she wasn't a 6, I'd consider wifing her up.
My life's fucked and the last 4 years have been a complete waste, so I really don't care if you call flame.
As for dudes suggesting patent bar, fuck this I'm done with the law. I have no desire to stay in this profession and grind for anything less than 100K. I'll be perfectly fine being a teacher and making 50K to work 7-3 and have summers off. Just sucks that I would have to be on IBR into my 50s.
Gonna be gone for the day, but will answer any non-outting my firm Qs when I get back.
Just want to say fuck the law and fuck this cesspool of a city. |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 1:00 PM Author: Histrionic hot stage puppy leave NYC and move to north dakota (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817221) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 1:17 PM Author: rough-skinned walnut church associate no man, do public service loan forgiveness and youre out from your loans at ten years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817275) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:53 AM Author: know-it-all dingle berry whorehouse FLAME ^ SHARK |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 9:51 PM Author: Soul-stirring Area Quadroon "On the bright side, bootycall feels bad and is treating me to brunch. If she wasn't a 6, I'd consider wifing her up."
Sometimes bad things happen to good people; luckily, this time a bad thing happened to a bad person.
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Date: August 15th, 2012 9:51 PM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347629) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 12:39 PM Author: green thriller pisswyrm coldplay fan With top 1/4 at a T14, why not apply to a ton of district court clerkships? I would think you have a 50/50 chance to land something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817164) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 1:21 PM Author: irate mint toaster gas station This is BS. Its not humanly possible to bill 500 hours in 8 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817290) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:06 PM Author: Autistic theater ya, ive padded at least 500 hours in 8 months. so i could have done no actual work and billed that much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347807) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:06 PM Author: wonderful hospital Umm do you work in biglaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352264) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2012 2:15 PM Author: Cerebral House Codepig your only option is the IBR public service forgiveness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#20817546) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:15 AM Author: Deranged laughsome point personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343169) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:25 AM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth You need to break lease and leave NYC immediately.
Tell your landlord you've been fired and are dead broke. They can sue you but if they think you've got zero money they won't bother.
-2009 1st year layoff survivor |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:29 AM Author: transparent exhilarant center stock car this is the credited response. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343256) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:31 AM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab what did you end up doing? i got laid off in the first few months of my second year in 2009 and it pretty much destroyed my legal career.
stupidly, i stuck around nyc applying to jobs in vain. |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:38 AM Author: Mustard odious masturbator fat ankles What are you doing now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343301) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:41 AM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab i'm in-house now but not making much (slightly less than 100k). i'm on dat 9-5 tip so i can't really complain but i prefer to be working more for more pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343316) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 12:17 PM Author: charismatic haunting hell WTF? How did you score that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343578) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:11 PM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab 90% luck, 5% good academic credentials (t6 + top ugrad) and 5% being a convincing liar in my interview ("yes, i plan to stay at this job for at least a few years"). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347882) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 1:37 PM Author: charismatic haunting hell I'm T14 magna, but never even getting near an interview, and I've applied for shitty jobs which are probably 70K for 60 hours/week (wouldn't necessarily take it, but doesn't hurt to apply). Certainly would be happy with a chill 9-5 for even 60K. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352126) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 1:54 PM Author: Impertinent Twinkling Uncleanness Orchestra Pit Are you serious? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352199) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:00 PM Author: charismatic haunting hell Yeah, man. Stealthed after 1 year is tough. 1) Everyone wants at least 2 years experience, and 2) It doesn't matter that you're still on the website, cuz no one leaves after 1 year, so you're either fired or disloyal/couldn't hack (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352231) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:05 PM Author: Impertinent Twinkling Uncleanness Orchestra Pit Yes, but T14 magna is pretty impressive. I mean I'm not like that (though, I have dat CS degree) and after I got Lathamed (with not too much more experience) I found shit when no one was hiring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352260) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:34 PM Author: charismatic haunting hell Corporate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352468) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:39 PM Author: Impertinent Twinkling Uncleanness Orchestra Pit Yep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352490) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:37 PM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab you working now or still looking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352479) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 3:26 PM Author: charismatic haunting hell Still looking. I still have a bit more time on my three-month grace period. After that, I'll either join my friend's start-up (non-legal), or have another friend give me a title (and minor job) on a political campaign he's running, to avoid a gap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352828) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 3:28 PM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab you'll get something but it takes time in this crappy job market. if your friend's startup is funded, that doesn't like a bad opportunity at all. but i am willing to bet that you don't want to close the door on your legal career. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352845) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:38 AM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth bugged out, landed pretty softly at an AmLaw 100 firm in a tertiary market. Billing THAT 1850, getting terrible raises and no bonuses. Trying to lateral back into a secondary market.
I'll never go back to NYC (at least not as a biglaw stooge), but I'm still doing corporate work for real life clients as opposed to divorces and DWIs for joe bag of donuts. |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:42 AM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab did you stay in-state or not? i applied to jobs out of state after i got laid off but not being bar admitted was to big a hurdle to overcome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343325) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:09 PM Author: Autistic theater frankly i think it would be sort of awesome to have joe bag of donuts for a client. would sure beat the stick up your ass clients of biglaw. seems like it would be a lot more chill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347848) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:11 PM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth yeah, being dead broke is so chill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347879) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:12 PM Author: Autistic theater you think every attorney who doesn't have big corporate clients is dead broke? come on breh don't be such a faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21347900) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 10:27 PM Author: Drunken Digit Ratio Scourge Upon The Earth the ones who do DWIs and divorces fresh out of law school are.
Also, with the common debt burden these days, I would guess that in 10-15 years the ones who do DWIs and divorces even not fresh out of law school are dead broke. |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:42 AM Author: twisted tattoo famous landscape painting Out the firm pumo, no one cares and it won't get your severance cut off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343323) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:42 AM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab it's prob white & case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343326) |
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Date: August 15th, 2012 11:47 AM Author: twisted tattoo famous landscape painting It's good to know what firms are pulling this shit today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21343351) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 12:50 AM Author: arousing peach shrine Holy shit i knew this thread title seemed familiar.
OP here. Severance about to run out, and i stupidly stayed in my NYC apt. Had 3 biglaw interviews and dinged from them all. Going to live with my parents in are country at the end of the month. Probably get my teaching cert
Life's bad man |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 3:13 AM Author: twisted tattoo famous landscape painting Out the fucking firm since your severance is done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21350103) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 10:05 AM Author: Heady misanthropic community account Might as well out it now brother. Help some of the other people going to that firm. I named the firm that stealthed my mentee (she was a 1st year). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21350639) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 10:13 AM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab why do you guys keep asking him to out the firm? in the history of xo, i've never seen a poster out the firm after he/she got stealthed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21350670) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 10:27 AM Author: Heady misanthropic community account It is because people are curious. If he doesn't out it, I am sure we will all be fine. If he does out the firm, then we will know that the firm is a sps firm. I can see OPs desire not to out the firm as few if any 1st years are ever stealthed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21350751) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 10:33 AM Author: hairless bat-shit-crazy rehab it's pretty crazy to think he would just violate a nondisclosure clause to appease xo. nobody ever outs the firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21350773) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 10:42 AM Author: Heady misanthropic community account I have never heard of a non-disclosure clause involved in firings from firms. Perhaps, the stealthed Latham people can comment.
When I was shitcanned, I never got a "non-disclosure agreement." It was all talked about in a conference room. I did not sign anything until my final day at work. |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 11:35 AM Author: twisted tattoo famous landscape painting The NDA just says you cant bad mouth the firm. And this only happens when you get laid off an get a severance check. when they stealth or fire you, you are on notice and keep collecting pay, but there is usually no severance of NDA.
Basically the OP, like all pumos and most lawyers, is either a liar or a pussy. |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 12:38 PM Author: Heady misanthropic community account I don't know.
Edit: I realized I probably should not be putting her information on some random internet board. |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 12:47 PM Author: Aromatic casino You made it sound as if it was a while ago. But if you want to edit, that's obviously understandable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21351714) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 1:47 PM Author: Heady misanthropic community account It was some time ago (more than 5 mos ago), but I just felt that it was not right for me to put her info on here. Also, I feel like others should know because it fucked up her career. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352175) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 12:07 PM Author: big bbw This happened to me too, but back when firms were laying people off left and right, so it was NBD. I even posted about it and nobody gave a fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21351346) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 12:40 PM Author: know-it-all dingle berry whorehouse XO is in denial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21351645) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 1:53 PM Author: Impertinent Twinkling Uncleanness Orchestra Pit New normal, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352195) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 1:57 PM Author: arousing peach shrine Not going to out my firm but I will say that it wouldn't be a shock or surprise whatsoever if you heard the name (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352208) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:06 PM Author: Impertinent Twinkling Uncleanness Orchestra Pit There would be no reason not to admit this. It is shameful when you're one of several 1st years getting canned. When the whole firm collapses you're ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352265) |
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Date: August 16th, 2012 2:11 PM Author: Deranged laughsome point personal credit line Can you just mention if it starts with W since a lot of people are getting CBs to that firm and may not want to accept potential offers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#21352304) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:29 PM Author: Mahogany sanctuary Email above the law, fuck that firm they should suffer the reputations harm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35878683) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 11:32 PM Author: Mahogany sanctuary If I were you I’d spam and call firm clients and try to get mobile business from them. What’s the firm going to do to you? Tell the clients you are leaving on your own accord. Then leverage the client contacts for a lateral position. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#35878708) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:48 AM Author: arousing peach shrine Update 8 years later from OP:
Firm was White & Case. Was living with parents for a while and eventually got lucky as shit and an offer from another V50 NYC corporate group. Worked in biglaw until last year and lateralled to a chill midlaw regional firm. Making mid 6 figures, not quite 9-5 in house chill gig, but way less stressful than biglaw.
Things turned out really well for me and I feel lucky as shit. Got married a few years ago and have 2 kids. On my super crazy days I tried to think about how close I was to being a poor teacher. |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:05 AM Author: 180 theatre mental disorder How long did it take you to pay off those loans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188044) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:15 AM Author: arousing peach shrine Paid down mostly everything by end of 4th year. Had 5K left of 2% loans so still paying min on those ($30/month). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188082) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:18 AM Author: 180 theatre mental disorder You managed to save a lot I assume (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188091) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:25 AM Author: arousing peach shrine Yeah wiped out savings to buy a house and have been building it up again since. Have about 400K between cash/investments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188116) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:09 AM Author: wonderful hospital Glad things worked out for you. Still hate practicing law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188058) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:18 AM Author: arousing peach shrine It sucks and I dont get any intellectual stimulation out of it. But I'm decently good at the mindless tasks and multitasking so I excelled at it which is why I was able to last so long.
I try to think about it as just paying the bills so there's no letdown that I am unfulfilled in my career. Try to focus my positive energy towards things I like (family, sports, etc) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:22 AM Author: wonderful hospital smart. How do you like where you live now? Did you move to be closer to grandparents? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188106) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:24 AM Author: arousing peach shrine yep, I'm close to where I grew up and enjoy it. about 20 mins drive from inlaws and 45 mins from my parents. Lifesaver to have accessible free babysitting and it helps alot with the marriage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188114) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:25 AM Author: wonderful hospital makes a lot of sense. do you miss nyc at all? I've been gone for almost two months now at inlaws and I am shocked about how little I miss it |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:30 AM Author: arousing peach shrine Not at all, especially since I got out before the fraudvirus. Was fun early on for dating and fun especially on a biglaw salary, but less appealing after you settle down. Fucking hate not having any space. Now have a big backyard, run/bike around the neighborhood. Wouldn't trade my current living situation if you offered me a high rise 4 BR NYC apartment at my current mortgage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188124) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:09 AM Author: Turquoise titillating factory reset button Mid six figures in regional midlaw? That is pretty unreal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188059) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:15 AM Author: Underhanded prole he has to mean mid-100s, which seems a little bit low even for a small market midlaw firm, but maybe it isn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188081) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:20 AM Author: arousing peach shrine No brah, mid six figures. I was able to bring some of my biglaw clients over with me to do some of the smaller matters that are too expensive for biglaw. So I'm not competition to my old firm and they are actually a big supporter of the clients using me on that work since I'm a known commodity at a way lower billable rate and I don't have a chance of taking their work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188101) |
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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:22 AM Author: arousing peach shrine thanks bro, sharing the update for bros that feel stuck and hopeless in biglaw. Things get better if you work hard, get right financially, develop your skillset and dont burn bridges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1962518&forum_id=2#40188107) |
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Date: February 13th, 2021 5:31 PM Author: arousing peach shrine Bumping this again to show my appreciation and gratitude for my situation.
On track to bring in $1M of billable Q1 2021. Hired 2 ex-biglaw associates to work under me and I basically have my own mini practice group within the firm. Noone bothers me and I'm in complete control of my schedule.
Best part is because my deals are a fraction of the bigger deals that biglaw handles for my clients, they rarely ever want to do late night or weekend calls. Also get the benefit of biglaw expertise/specialists from my old firm since they have vested interest in making sure client gets a good outcome since they are referring me to client.
To the junior biglaw bros (if any left on the bort). It can get better. Really use your early years to figure out what you're good at and bust your ass to hone that skillset. I got super lucky and not going to deny that. But competence and coming off a normal person went a long way. Clients always have smaller work they dont want to pay $1K an hour for and biglaw bros will be more likely to refer you if they know your work and don't view you as competition. |
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