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So Obama was allowing guns into Mexico to help get assault w...
charismatic deer antler shrine
  06/20/12
how the fuck is allowing guns into mexico, so that Mexicans ...
Adventurous coral ceo
  06/20/12
So then they can come out and say see we were against assaul...
charismatic deer antler shrine
  06/20/12
Fairly obvious little breh. Allowing massive amounts of guns...
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so...you're saying that making guns less available results i...
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This is all conservative talk radio is. There's nothing par...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
cr. It's become more apparent to me as I've gotten older. ...
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  06/20/12
there was a lulzy ad about owing more than 10K CC debt and h...
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Per wiki, it looks like some of this gunwalking shit started...
alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef
  06/20/12
Republicans are desperate, bro.
Adventurous coral ceo
  06/20/12
The pre-2009 program, Operation Wide Receiver was shut down ...
Abusive razzmatazz office
  06/20/12
Is there anything to suggest that gunwalking is anything but...
alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef
  06/20/12
To be fair, Nothing except for the recent announcement, i...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
Maybe they just want Issa to eff off?
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
To be fair, There's no "maybe" about that, but ...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
BFD, releasing too much info compromises agents, investigati...
alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef
  06/20/12
To be fair, Let me ask you a question: do you have any id...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
because Holder continued to greenlight a program they had ev...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
Again, is there some sort of political gain, somewhere? J...
alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef
  06/20/12
till up the seeds we've planted? we're effectively arming na...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
What is the big objection to this? I assume the rationale w...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
are you really that fucking stupid? serious question.
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
It is a serious question. I must be missing something.
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
why don't you take a little vision quest to ciudad juarez an...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
LOL you, too, appear stumped.
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
Arming a next door apolitical army that controls vast financ...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
To be fair, Bro you're talking to a guy who CLEARLY doesn...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
Lol at this ridiculous narrative. The cartels buy these gun...
Ivory up-to-no-good address internal respiration
  06/20/12
To be fair, Solid defense, I'll be sure to raise it next ...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
tyft friend some of these people have seriously lost thei...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
To be fair, Seriously. It's really appalling.
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
Well if you're a law enforcement agency engaged in a sting o...
Ivory up-to-no-good address internal respiration
  06/20/12
they are a cause not the cause. dea too.
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
So the FBI's motivation here is that of an illegal gun merch...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
wow you really don't get it, do you
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
I genuinely believe that you and TBF are either doltish or f...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
The Obama administration is helping and courting a future po...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
Are you messing with me? I've spent too much time trying to...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
the program was halted after its initial intention (to gathe...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
so Obama is courting a political ally by continuing a progra...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
ok one last try: HE's NOT CONTINUING, RETARD he's star...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
I understand the theory, I just find it incredible. Don't g...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
the second part of your summation is all wrong/completely bo...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
i didn't expect that one. this is like watching a tv show. ...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
the people he's arming, retard. christ are you really that s...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
Yes, I am the stupid guy who does NOT think that obama made ...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
not something as stupid and obvious as campaign or superpac ...
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
LOL. Is the cartel comping orange juices for Mahliah while ...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
bump for MAFHB, plz respond
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Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
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To be fair, PS: Holder, Obama's AG, has repeatedly denied...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
it's not doltish to not know about something. it's doltish ...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
To be fair, (Guy who doesn't think it's doltish to come i...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
Where did I act like an expert? Throughout this discussion ...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
they're just trying to avoid the issue that the main objecti...
Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage
  06/20/12
To be fair, "i.e. it's a witch hunt" Yes, ho...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
yeah, it's almost as good as impeaching Clinton.
Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage
  06/20/12
To be fair, Yeah poor Nixon... goddamn Democrats and thei...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
when your opponent does shit like funnel money to death squa...
Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage
  06/20/12
To be fair, "Holder lied, only one guy died" ...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
ahh, now Eric Holder's lies went back in time and killed a b...
Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage
  06/20/12
To be fair, Well hell, now that I think about it, Nixon d...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
It is unethical, period, to sell someone you know is a crimi...
Abusive razzmatazz office
  06/20/12
I, like most Americans, aren't too worried about the due pro...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
To be fair, Are you really asking why it's a big deal whe...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
Tougher gun laws would stop the killing. Why not?
Stimulating opaque hall
  06/20/12
To be fair, *Spends the week trying to take away the righ...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
The second story is just delusional. Obama is trying to ban...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
To be fair, "No serious person believes that" ...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
OK I am convinced. I am now going to furiously search fo...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
To be fair, PS: Obama was the one who raised legal questi...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
Dumb. This story has been on front burner for conservatives...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
To be fair, My answer to that for rational, intelligent c...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
This is a fair post. I just don't get the hemming and hawin...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
To be fair, I don't feel strongly about the conspiracy th...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
This makes sense. Seems to me this is the real meat-and-pot...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
To be fair, Yes, Conservatives en masse tend to hate Hold...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
To be fair, Like Watergate, at this point this isn't so m...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
Who gives a shit? Gov't is gonna do what it do. Fuckups happ...
alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef
  06/20/12
To be fair, "It doesn't seem lke there is any possib...
180 french hospital mental disorder
  06/20/12
agreed. no need to formulate a theory about secret motives w...
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There was a show on Patriot Radio (Sirius) that was dedicate...
Flushed Misunderstood Idiot
  06/20/12
GOP has been fuming since Iran-Contra and are desperate for ...
Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage
  06/20/12
(complete and utter retard)
Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo
  06/20/12
No one died in Watergate, and yet we investigated the shit o...
Abusive razzmatazz office
  06/20/12
The whole investigation is a ridiculous waste of time. It wa...
Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage
  06/20/12
To be fair, I read this post, and yet why am I so skeptic...
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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:40 PM
Author: charismatic deer antler shrine

So Obama was allowing guns into Mexico to help get assault weapons banned - in the US - and to get the Latino vote, got it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922243)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:16 PM
Author: Adventurous coral ceo

how the fuck is allowing guns into mexico, so that Mexicans can kill each other more effectively, supposed to win the Latino vote??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922485)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:30 PM
Author: charismatic deer antler shrine

So then they can come out and say see we were against assault weapons all along! No, seriously, that's the conspiracy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922572)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:23 PM
Author: marvelous travel guidebook

Fairly obvious little breh. Allowing massive amounts of guns into Mexico increases the crime and miserableness of the general population who become even more motivated to illegally enter united states. This coupled with lax voter id and immigration policies allows for an influx of Hispanic voters.

Finally, Obama can say that he tried to allow for less gun control but the overall increased violence on the border (that seeps into the us) has forced his hand and he will then institute more stringent gun laws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922899)



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Date: December 1st, 2012 3:33 PM
Author: Aggressive puppy

so...you're saying that making guns less available results in less crime?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#22146904)



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Date: December 1st, 2012 3:35 PM
Author: maniacal red casino selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#22146909)



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Date: July 15th, 2017 1:47 PM
Author: Henna disgusting cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#33780440)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:12 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

This is all conservative talk radio is. There's nothing particularly noteworthy about the craziness of this theory.

The craziness is punctuated by ads for impotence drugs, CDs that teach you how to get-rich-by-flipping-houses, gold, and services for tax cheats. Seriously, that's easily 90% of the advertising clients.

The whole industry is impotent, dumb men appealing to impotent, lazy, gullible, dishonest men. The demographic is depressingly huge though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922468)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:14 PM
Author: primrose church building

cr. It's become more apparent to me as I've gotten older.

Also, the sheer stupidity you hear when listening to limbaugh or the like for only an hour is astounding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922477)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:20 PM
Author: charismatic deer antler shrine

there was a lulzy ad about owing more than 10K CC debt and how the hopey changey stuff isn't working out for you so call this debt consolidation firm for help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922504)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:26 PM
Author: Brilliant mind-boggling bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922539)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:34 PM
Author: anal bbw

Poors pay very little taxes to begin with. Payroll taxes vanish immediately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922599)



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Date: December 1st, 2012 3:23 PM
Author: orange cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#22146861)



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Date: August 17th, 2013 5:59 PM
Author: orange cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#23859725)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:17 PM
Author: alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef

Per wiki, it looks like some of this gunwalking shit started in in '06.

If it's been policy for that long, why is there a rush to blame this on Obama?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922488)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:19 PM
Author: Adventurous coral ceo

Republicans are desperate, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922495)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:25 PM
Author: Abusive razzmatazz office

The pre-2009 program, Operation Wide Receiver was shut down after attempts to monitor the guns had failed. Fast and Furious was restarted with knowledge of the prior program's failure and no real effort to track the guns. Plus, no one perjured themselves in connection with Operation Wide Receiver,.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922532)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:29 PM
Author: alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef

Is there anything to suggest that gunwalking is anything but an ill-conceived bottom-up enforcement strategy (as opposed to some bizarre top-down politically motivated decision)?

I'm not a shitlib, but I'm having difficulty seeing how this was some sort of huge failure on Obama's part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922562)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:31 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Nothing except for the recent announcement, issued on behalf of the sitting President of the United States, that all of the documents Congress is seeking in connection with its investigation into this policy/program are being withheld on the basis of Executive Privilege.

Either he was involved with it and can claim Executive Privilege over these documents (and should rightfully be subject to intense public scrutiny for its failure), or he wasn't and in spite of being a fucking former Constitutional Law professor he's now trying to assert a very narrow privilege to shield documents that clearly are not protected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922576)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:32 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

Maybe they just want Issa to eff off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922582)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:38 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

There's no "maybe" about that, but as a strictly legal matter Obama can't have it both ways. Either he was involved with the program and can potentially claim the privilege now or he wasn't and he can't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922609)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:32 PM
Author: alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef

BFD, releasing too much info compromises agents, investigations, and CIs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922586)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:36 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Let me ask you a question: do you have any idea what the term 'Executive Privilege' actually means as a legal matter, or are you just sort of going off the cuff here and giving us your personal opinion about what you think it should mean, like the white Rastafarian on the streetcorning bitching about how his pot use is, like, totally protected under the First Amendment, mon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922605)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:34 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

because Holder continued to greenlight a program they had evidence wasn't working, and now they are trying to stop that evidence from being admitted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922597)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:38 PM
Author: alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef

Again, is there some sort of political gain, somewhere?

Just because Holder approved something that is in retrospect a bit boneheaded doesn't mean we should till up the seeds we've planted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922612)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:39 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

till up the seeds we've planted? we're effectively arming narco cartels

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922616)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:46 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

What is the big objection to this? I assume the rationale was that the cartels are going to kill people regardless of what FBI does, so we might as well try to get some intelligence from the murder weapons. That makes a little bit of sense to me.

But why the outrage? Why are the NRA and Ted Nugent making this seem like a gun control issue?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922646)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:47 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

are you really that fucking stupid? serious question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922656)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:49 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

It is a serious question. I must be missing something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922659)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:50 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

why don't you take a little vision quest to ciudad juarez and get back to us, retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922666)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:51 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

LOL you, too, appear stumped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922670)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:56 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

Arming a next door apolitical army that controls vast financial resources is very, very dangerous for our stability. You clearly have no idea what these people are capable of and how big their networks are. They don't come with the type of baggage and restrictions that a sovereign does.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922714)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:04 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Bro you're talking to a guy who CLEARLY doesn't watch Breaking Bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922773)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:11 PM
Author: Ivory up-to-no-good address internal respiration

Lol at this ridiculous narrative. The cartels buy these guns everyday by the fucking boatload from crooked gun stores and gun shows in the US. This operation did not in any way put guns in the hands of those who would have never been able to obtain such weapons otherwise.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922815)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:13 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Solid defense, I'll be sure to raise it next time I'm prosecuted for selling the Crips a box of handguns with the serial numbers filed off. Sounds like a legal winner to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922832)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:14 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

tyft friend

some of these people have seriously lost their minds trying to apologize for anything the Obama administration does. This unquestioned loyalty is mind-boggling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922840)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:19 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Seriously. It's really appalling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922872)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:18 PM
Author: Ivory up-to-no-good address internal respiration

Well if you're a law enforcement agency engaged in a sting operation you'd have a defense. I'm merely responding to the ridiculous claims that the DOJ and FBI are now responsible for the continuing violence in Mexico.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922863)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:19 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

they are a cause not the cause. dea too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922871)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:21 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

So the FBI's motivation here is that of an illegal gun merchant? Haven't you totally disregarded the entire purpose of the program -- i.e., to hopefully obtain useful information about the illegal gun distribution network between US and Mexico?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922882)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:24 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

wow you really don't get it, do you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922901)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:26 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

I genuinely believe that you and TBF are either doltish or flame at this point. What don't I get here? (I mean that earnestly, as I'd like to understand the issue here; I've been tuning out for months and figure it's a good time to get up to date).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922915)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

The Obama administration is helping and courting a future political ally, and a very, very powerful one at that.

Lol@at confessing ignorance and then calling me a dolt/flame. get a clue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922931)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:31 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

Are you messing with me? I've spent too much time trying to get an answer here already. This whole program started during the Bush presidency.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922953)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:35 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

the program was halted after its initial intention (to gather intel) was failing. It started up again in 2009 and has since turned into something much worse, including money laundering operations et al.

Seriously read up before you come to xoxo and defend something you admit you don't even understand. Some of us actually spend our professional lives analyzing risk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922976)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:42 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

so Obama is courting a political ally by continuing a program that his predecessor's FBI initiated?

* bangs head against wall *

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923015)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:44 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

ok one last try:

HE's NOT CONTINUING, RETARD

he's starting back up a program his predecessor ABANDONED because it was achieving unintended consequences. The Obama administration sees those unintended consequences as potentially politically favorable, and so, with notice of what those consequences are, re-launched and souped up the program that initially nobody back in 2006 predicted at least publicly would result in such a disaster.

imagine a hypothetical pacifistic scientist who in the course of his work discovered something that had vast and deadly destructive military applications and thus he abandons the work out of fear that Pandora's box would be opened if he were to continue. Then somebody else comes along later and discovers his findings and "continues" the work with the purpose of achieving those exact military applications.

let me preempt you and say don't misunderstand me and strawman and say I'm trying to equate bush to a pacifistic either, fuckwad. Likewise, the above analogy would be giving Obama as the second guy much too much credit. He's doing this for personal political gain, not nationalistic power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923023)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:50 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

I understand the theory, I just find it incredible. Don't get me wrong, I think "Obama administration discovers that FBI can put guns in hands of drug cartels and contribute indirectly to border violence, in the process heightening political support for gun control among border Latinos (possibly further cementing Latino-Democrat alliance)" is a coherent theory. I just think it's exceedingly unlikely, as a factual matter, to have crossed the administration's mind. Our disagreement seems to boil down to our differing degrees of credulousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923056)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:14 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

the second part of your summation is all wrong/completely bogus/typical Rush Limbaugh nonsense. He's doing it because there is a group of deep pockets whose only collective political interest for whatever reason is in making sure drugs stay illegal, which for Obama requires little concession or expenditure of political capital to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923164)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:18 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

i didn't expect that one. this is like watching a tv show. who is the future deep-pocketed donor dead set on keeping drugs illegal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923180)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:19 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

the people he's arming, retard. christ are you really that stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923188)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:27 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

Yes, I am the stupid guy who does NOT think that obama made the conscious decision to trade guns for laundered SuperPac donations of cartel blood money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923234)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:29 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

not something as stupid and obvious as campaign or superpac donations. You dont think the admin could have use for untraceable funds? you dont think there have been prior administrations that used narcodollars to fund regime change operations in other parts of the world? you act like there's never been precedent for anything like this before (iran-contra). ok go on your with life. i've wasted enough of mine on yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923245)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

LOL. Is the cartel comping orange juices for Mahliah while on vacation in Cancun? Or sending bags of cash to Chicago for Rahm Emanuel to launder for Barry? What are the non-campaign "personal gain[s]" Obama gets from the drug cartels in their capacity as "deep-pocketed donors"?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923284)



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Date: October 21st, 2013 12:59 AM
Author: orange cuckoldry

bump for MAFHB, plz respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#24275885)



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Date: November 16th, 2014 9:03 PM
Author: orange cuckoldry

BUMP FOR MAFHB, PLZ RESPOND

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#26733249)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: orange cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#32676736)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Doobsian Azure Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#35889432)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:01 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923114)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:37 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

PS: Holder, Obama's AG, has repeatedly denied knowledge relating to activities conducted under this program at various points when he had a legal duty to speak truthfully in the past, and the Congressional investigation is now trying to go back and determine what he actually knew and when he knew it. Of course, that has absolutely nothing to do with either the arguable merits of the program as it was run under Obama or anything the Bush Administration did at all.

You're really not letting your profound ignorance on this topic stop you from authoritatively weighing in and dismissing everyone else as idiots, huh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922992)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:45 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

it's not doltish to not know about something. it's doltish to be unable to articulate a point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923028)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:46 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

(Guy who doesn't think it's doltish to come in acting like a MFE when he doesn't know shit... just as long as in between the posts where he opines authoritatively he slips in a few oblique admissions that he doesn't actually know what he's talking about)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923037)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:50 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

Where did I act like an expert? Throughout this discussion I was only trying to figure out what the hell conservatives were so mad about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923054)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:34 PM
Author: Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage

they're just trying to avoid the issue that the main objective of the investigation now is to nab Eric Holder for perjury i.e. it's a witch hunt.

The program was bad, everyone admits it. But accountability here is merely firing people and the GOP see an opportunity to get Obama because he didn't fire Holder.

It's the same program done under Bush just larger and with some hindsight. But at its base level it's clearly stupid. The DOJ shouldn't have started it at any time. Their reconciliation is focusing on Holder since he's Obama's man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922973)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:42 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

"i.e. it's a witch hunt"

Yes, how stupid and petty of Congress/the American people to be concerned that a high-ranking federal official might have straight up lied about his knowledge of a controversial government-sanctioned program while he was under oath. Who the fuck would possibly care about that, or think that if true, that sort of (illegal) behavior is deeply troubling and casts strong doubt on his fitness to serve as one of the most powerful lawyers in America... let alone even retain his bar membership? What a shameful partisan witch hunt, you are clearly so objective about all of this bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923013)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage

yeah, it's almost as good as impeaching Clinton.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923068)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:53 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Yeah poor Nixon... goddamn Democrats and their ill-conceived pointless witch hunts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923073)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:00 PM
Author: Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage

when your opponent does shit like funnel money to death squads so they could overthrow their government when Congress specifically tells them not to, you've always got to be on your tippy toes.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923108)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:01 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

"Holder lied, only one guy died"

What's the big deal bro, turn off the heatrocks and let these whiny reptards go hibernate already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923113)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:10 PM
Author: Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage

ahh, now Eric Holder's lies went back in time and killed a border guard. what a great spin you've got to come up with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923152)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:14 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Well hell, now that I think about it, Nixon didn't know about the break-in until after the fact... no biggie! Fucking Democrats making a big deal about nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923163)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:51 PM
Author: Abusive razzmatazz office

It is unethical, period, to sell someone you know is a criminal a gun and then let him walk away to do what he will with it. It's even more appalling that the government would do it. An ethical prosecutor should not bring a case knowing that this sort of law enforcement tactic was used, and that's what the U.S. Attorneys did regarding the pre-2009 program.

It's the same reason we have the exclusionary rule and require warrants for wiretapping. We don't pursue law enforcement without any ethical boundaries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922674)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:03 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

I, like most Americans, aren't too worried about the due process rights of Los Zetas. It's really more of a quasi-military intelligence operation than a run-of-the-mill law enforcement matter. If the FBI could get good info that leads to future prosecutions of persons in the US funneling weapons to the cartels, then I'm all for it. (Though I'm not quite sure how the exclusionary rule would apply in that case).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922764)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:52 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Are you really asking why it's a big deal when we find out that the Executive Branch of the federal government was secretly selling deadly weapons to para-military groups that are comprised of psychopaths engaging in illegal activity, across national borders, that sometimes kills American civilians/law enforcement officials?

And why, to gun owners, this might be further exacerbated by the fact that the Administration under which this was carried out is made up of members of a political party that has long been openly hostile to private gun ownership and has often cited rising rates of drug-related gun violence as a prime justification for imposing tighter restrictions on gun ownership/use?

Yeah man I can't help you, I'm stumped too. Sorry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922675)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:56 PM
Author: Stimulating opaque hall

Tougher gun laws would stop the killing. Why not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922718)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:03 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

*Spends the week trying to take away the rights of private, law-abiding American citizens to own firarms for self-protection in violation of the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution*

*Spends weekends secretly selling firearms to Mexican criminals with the knowledge and expectation that they will turn around and use them to violently smuggle things across the American border in violation of countless federal laws*

"What's the big deal, bro? Fucking reptiles always getting pissed off about some ol' bullshit, man."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922762)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:57 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

The second story is just delusional. Obama is trying to ban guns by arming Mexican drug gangs? No serious person believes that.

And as for the first one, it's a closer call. Maybe it was unethical. If they supplied, say, 0.3% of the firearms used by the dealers but in the process garnered key clues that exposed the distribution chains for smuggled drugs and weapons, then I imagine most Americans would be ok with that. I certainly would. Especially if FBI uses information to take out key links in the chain, frustrating ability of cartels to access the other 99.7% of their weapons.

I suspect that is why Mukasey and Holder both liked the idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922725)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:06 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

"No serious person believes that"

Again, on the off chance that you're a lawyer (god help your clients if so), make sure you make that the central argument of your next MTD.

"Plaintiff's allegations are ridiculous your honor, my company would never do something like that! Trust me, there's no need for discovery here."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922786)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:10 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

OK I am convinced.

I am now going to furiously search for EVIDENCE that Obama is NOT engaged in the most convoluted, illogical conspiracy attempt in U.S. history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922812)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:12 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

PS: Obama was the one who raised legal questions about the scope of his own *personal* involvement in this *by invoking Executive Privilege over all of these documents*, genius. Even if only kooks were pointing figures and raising eyebrows at him before, that's certainly not the case now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922823)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:19 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

Dumb. This story has been on front burner for conservatives for months now. I'm trying to figure out why. If your answer is "because Obama is engaged in a convoluted conspiracy to eradicate hunting from Michigan's upper peninsula," you'd better have better evidence than "he invoked executive privilege yesterday".

It's like I am arguing with a truck driver calling into Glenn Beck's program.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922873)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:26 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

My answer to that for rational, intelligent conservatives is "See Point #1, above." The government's involvement in this is res ipsa alarming, and we would be crazy not to dig into it further now that it's come to light. My answer to that for the crazier, kookier gun-nuts is "See Points #1 and #2, above." (Although presidential involvement in 'outrageous conspiracies', at least ex post, is hardly unprecedented in modern times, in case you didn't know.)

You might not be personally impressed by the import of either of those concerns, but when it comes to whether or not this Administration is legally obligated to turn over documents pursuant to Congressional subpoena, then that's not exactly the relevant legal standard for deciding the issue now is it? And when Obama himself invokes Executive Privilege - a privilege that has been *very* narrowly construed by SCOTUS w/r/t written documents, something that we can and should assume that Obama, as a former Con Law professor at a top law school, would be well aware of - and refuses to hand over the documents on that ground, I think it's objectively rational and not at all crazy to wonder why the hell he is doing that and to seek clarification instead of just going "Oh yeah of course, sure carry on we trust you bro."

Given how brilliant you seem to think you are as you dismissively equate everything that I'm saying to the loony ramblings of a 90 IQ trucker, it's amazing how you have completely failed to actually engage with, let alone rebut, any of the substance of these points (and also how you clearly had no idea what "Executive Privilege" actually was to begin with in spite of acting like a MFE on that topic, but I'm sure you were just joshing.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922920)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:40 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

This is a fair post. I just don't get the hemming and hawing. Like I said, #1 seems like we're having a genuine law enforcement policy disagreement. But it's goofy to get all excited about the program and compare the FBI to an illegal arms dealer that is complicit in killing a bunch of people. I just don't see it that way. And as for #2, I do think it's crazy talk. I'll just leave it at that.

The subpoena issue is a different issue. I think Obama thinks Issa is a venal, contemptuous gnat and he is playing chicken with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923006)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

I don't feel strongly about the conspiracy theory stuff - I don't personally buy into it, but enough crazy shit has happened in recent history (Nixon, Iran Contra) that I wouldn't be totally mindblown if there was some element of truth to it, either. I think there are ample grounds for an investigation, I think it's more than likely that Eric Holder commited perjury, and I think Obama is acting shady for some reason or another now.

I also think that if Obama thinks that "playing chicken" with Executive Privilege in the face of a Congressional subpoena issued as part of an ongoing perjury investigation against the AG is wise or appropriate, he's far, far dumber than I would have ever guessed - both as a legal matter and as a political matter, because this just makes him look unnecessarily shady too and will make it much more difficult for him to distance himself from anything that goes down/gets uncovered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923070)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:03 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

This makes sense. Seems to me this is the real meat-and-potatoes of conservative anger: "Eric Holder lied to me!"

It's a serious charge. But the crocodile tears over the guns in the hands of the cartels is just the background, not the thing itself. There could be a memo to the effect of "We need to keep program confidential because FOX will run with it if it becomes public knowledge" that Holder didn't want out there. Or maybe he did lie about it thinking the issue would go away.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923120)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:13 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Yes, Conservatives en masse tend to hate Holder for a variety of reasons, some of which I think are pretty legitimate. They might make a fuss about the background on this, but at the end of the day all that matters is that they have him between a rock and a hard place and they are on the right side of the law.

What's frustrating is that so many liberals like solace and wallace ITT - and bearing in mind that self-described liberals are the ones who are supposed to be particularly suspicious of 'authoritarian bootlickers', who are supposed to be particularly critical and questioning of those who "hold the power", etc. - seem to want to waive their hands and dismiss this all, just because Holder is Obama's man and they looooove them some Obama. All of these eye-rolling comparisons to Clinton... all of this smokescreening about how F&F started under Bush... all of the snickers at the Nugent et al freakshow... it's incredibly disingenuous, and if these fgts had any real principles they would be leading the charge to investigate Holder and nail his ass to the wall based on the mounting evidence that he lied about his knowledge of a controversial secret government program that ended up killing an American law enforcement agent, regardless of the fact that he's a Democratic appointee. Instead they reveal themselves to be mindless partisan shills, making them look all the more hypocritical when they try and pick up the banner of high-minded idealism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923160)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:40 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

Like Watergate, at this point this isn't so much about what actually happened on the ground (fucked up though that was) as it is about figuring out when the relevant political figures actually knew what, at one point, they outright denied having any knowledge about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922622)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:54 PM
Author: alcoholic chartreuse kitty roast beef

Who gives a shit? Gov't is gonna do what it do. Fuckups happen. It doesn't seem like there is any possible untoward motivation.

A shitstorm is warranted, but if you think some sort of doc is going to surface with Obama's imprimatur on it saying something like "Make sure dis AR-15 makes its way over to Carlos", you're probably going to be disappointed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922694)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:57 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

"It doesn't seem lke there is any possibly untoward motivation"

You are seriously flame or stupid, there is no third alternative.

"A shitstorm is warranted"

...and if by 'a shitstorm' you mean 'a release of the requested papers to Congress or thorough and complete explanation of exactly why, as a legal matter, the invocation of Executive Privilege is warranted with regard to the requested papers', then yes. And given that neither have been forthcoming in the months that this investigation has been proceeding, anyone who isn't flame or an idiot (see above, e.g., not you) can probably see why some people are understandably MAF about the current situation.

But on the off chance that you're a lawyer, be sure to respond to the next legally legitimate RFPs that you receive that are clearly designed to fish for smoking gun documents with a terse explanation that "it's really unlikely that those sort of documents exist, so fuck off I'm not digging up any files for you." That's totally the way these things work, if you just alpha them around like that these pussy plaintiffs counsels usually feel dumb as fuck for even asking and might even settle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922724)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: excitant fortuitous meteor newt

agreed. no need to formulate a theory about secret motives when plain old stupidity explains the facts.

the conservatards who obsess over this issue say that Obama told anti-gun people that he was working on some things "under the radar" and so F&F, coupled with the supposed cover-up, looks to them like a deep conspiracy. the invocation of executive privilege, when Obama says he learned of F&F only through the news, will make the conspiracy nuts obsess even more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922959)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:21 PM
Author: Flushed Misunderstood Idiot

There was a show on Patriot Radio (Sirius) that was dedicated entirely to Fast and Furious. This guy would spend 2 hours every night just discussing Fast and Furious. It was so weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922508)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:32 PM
Author: Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage

GOP has been fuming since Iran-Contra and are desperate for an arms deal crusade of their own

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922578)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 4:42 PM
Author: Apoplectic multi-billionaire water buffalo

(complete and utter retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922630)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 6:32 PM
Author: Abusive razzmatazz office

No one died in Watergate, and yet we investigated the shit out of that. In this case, an innocent border patrol agent died because of DOJ's lack of ethics AND incompetence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20923266)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:09 PM
Author: Hilarious Pontificating Old Irish Cottage

The whole investigation is a ridiculous waste of time. It was OK to arm these mexicans in 2006 because you just couldn't know if it would go wrong!

And TBF is right. Clearly Obama was behind all of this since he's using executive privilege.

Just like Bush invaded Iraq for oil deals, killed Pat Tillman, and saw to the firing of federal prosecutors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922809)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 5:21 PM
Author: 180 french hospital mental disorder

To be fair,

I read this post, and yet why am I so skeptical that you similarly thought that all of the inquiries into the Bush Administration's shady dealings were "a ridiculous waste of time"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1974942&forum_id=2#20922880)