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Why does Los Angeles have so many DONUT SHOPS?
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:19 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease they're fucking everywhere. there will be multiple donut shops on a single block. when you go into one, they are almost always empty. most people in LA are too fit to be eating donuts all the time. some weird shit going down in LA, bros. you heard it here first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031005) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:20 PM Author: sickened aphrodisiac really tough guy Cambodians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031009) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:21 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease lots of asian donut shop owners. but who the fuck are the customers? u rarely ever see anyone actually go into one of the donut shops. pretty sure they gotta be frontin drugs or some shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031016) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:27 PM Author: sickened aphrodisiac really tough guy cops (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031053) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:41 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease maybe man, but how can these places make any money. they must get like 1 customer per hour that buys $5 worth of stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031156) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:44 PM Author: sickened aphrodisiac really tough guy yeah, i don't really know i guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031178) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:46 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease also, if u ever go into one, they don't even seem particularly excited that u are there, even though u are probably the first person to come in in 3 hours, and even though the person there is probably of some relation to the owner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031196) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:39 PM Author: Dashing Travel Guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960160) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:21 PM Author: Contagious low-t wagecucks canadians, after mexicans canadians are the number 2 immigrant group in LA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031017) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:24 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease WTFZ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031029) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:25 PM Author: wine elastic band dopamine TY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031036) |
Date: July 6th, 2012 9:25 PM Author: Embarrassed to the bone onyx new version lots of cops (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031039) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:26 PM Author: jade national knife Same shit in san francisco brother at least 1 or 2 on every block at minimum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031047) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:42 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease asian mafia imo. running money through cash buznezz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031159) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:28 PM Author: Unhinged Copper Chapel Nibblets Mister Donut or Krispy Kreme? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031067) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:40 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease just random mom and pops + chains like yum yum and winchells and shit. never seen a krispy kreme though im sure there are some of those too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031152) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:57 PM Author: supple locale mediation yum yum owns winchells. random fact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960271) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:38 PM Author: emerald hospital betta cop dat RANDYS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031140) |
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:51 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2006/12/mmm_immigration.html
Before blogging, there were listservs. I ran one for Armchair Economists. (Technically, it's still up, but competition from blogging has all but killed it. That's Creative Destruction for you...) One of our liveliest debates revolved around the doughnut industry. In D.C. and New Jersey, big chains and stale doughnuts predominate. In L.A., independent shops with fresh doughnuts are the rule. What gives?
After learning a bit about the industry, I advanced a simple explanation: Los Angeles has Cambodian immigrants to thank for its happy situation. There are lots of Cambodians in L.A., and they've developed an amazing and self-sustaining network of doughnut entrepreneurship. In D.C. and New Jersey, there aren't many Cambodians, and for whatever reason, no other group of immigrants has what it takes to fill their shoes. That was my story, anyway.
Years later, the Los Angeles Daily News has vindicated my hypothesis:
Independent doughnut sellers in the Valley are so good at streamlining that they have kept the chains from invading. Krispy Kreme shuttered half its stores in Southern California after the buzz about its hot doughnuts cooled off. Dunkin' Donuts doesn't have a single shop in the Valley and isn't looking to expand in the Golden State, according to its Web site.
Winchell's, the largest West Coast chain, has just 17 of the roughly 400 doughnut shops in the Valley.
"The small independent doughnut shop operators are able to run a lower overhead," said Lincoln Watase, president of Yum Yum Donut Shops, which owns Winchell's. The mom and pop stores don't have to pay managers, administrators and other support staffers like the chains do.
The article then reveals the Cambodian roots of this distinctive market structure: Cambodians created a niche business out of doughnuts beginning with a La Habra store in 1977, according to James Allen and Eugene Turner in "The Ethnic Quilt." "The business was successful, relatives trained with the owner and opened their own shops, and word of these opportunities spread widely within the community," the authors write.
But nobody eats doughnuts in Cambodia. The shops are just about economic survival, according to Allen and Turner. Not much English is required to run one, and loans through the Cambodian community made it possible for immigrants to open their own shops.
It's easy to give immigrants the credit for the explosion of ethnic dining. But it takes more insight to notice the role of immigrants in less exotic industries. In fact, I doubt I'd have to linger in an L.A. doughnut shop for long to overhear an elderly customer denounce the unmitigated evils of immigration while devouring a delicious Cambodian-made cruller.
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:16 PM Author: Green institution halford California seems to be full of main street ethnic niches.
Cambodians - run the donut shops Chinese - dental offices Indians - stationary stores Persians - used cars Vietnamese - nails |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:46 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease very true, bro. but how the fuck do the donut shops make any money? you would think the rent alone has to be more than they make off fucking donut sales. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960208) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 4:09 PM Author: pungent stock car stage Dough is cheap as fuck. They probably make each donut for like 10 cents tops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21961425) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:26 PM Author: sable business firm pisswyrm Used cars = Armenian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21963775) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:39 PM Author: Startling field places like that are generally a front for an illegal business like drug dealing or prostitution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960156) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 2:55 PM Author: Big infuriating school round eye I doubt they actually conduct illegal activity there. It's just used to launder the profits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960676) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:40 PM Author: henna passionate rehab dysfunction there's a great "chinese food and donuts" place on sawtelle somewhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960169) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:46 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease which one? there's probably like 4 lulz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960213) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:42 PM Author: supple locale mediation i went to a donut shop in la last night bro. i spent 1.80 for two glazed donuts for me and the woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960182) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:47 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease nice. i asked a LAPD friend which donut shop is best and he said Yum Yum Donuts always has the freshest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960215) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:48 PM Author: Lime floppy skinny woman useless brakes We also have a lot of obese Mexicans. Correlation or causation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960223) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:49 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease those bros are chowing down on the cheap mexican food for the most part. i always see a billion of em in the campos tacos and shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960225) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:57 PM Author: Lime floppy skinny woman useless brakes Serious answer -- they balance out our relative lack of gas stations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960279) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 2:01 PM Author: Orange rebellious church most of the asian donut shops in sf have ridiculously cheap donuts (like $8-9 for a dozen of any kind, and one shop tosses in like 4 free donuts every dozen) but they're never really fresh. it's cool that I can get cheap ass donuts but I'd prefer at least a couple non-hipster donut shops with actual fresh, hot donuts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960297) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 2:10 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease $9 would be expensive as fuck in LA for a dozen. you can get a dozen here for like $5-6. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960356) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:24 PM Author: Orange rebellious church well considering i always end up with 16 or 17 donuts after buying a "dozen" its the same thing. the point is they're just cheap donuts but never freshly made (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21963754) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:25 PM Author: Cordovan Excitant Range Hipster donut shops are surprisingly credited, as far as freshness at least.
http://www.federaldonuts.com/ |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:39 PM Author: Orange rebellious church they're more expensive in cities which aren't as cheap as philly. at least several of the places I've been to only have fancy donuts which cost $2-3 and you can't just a regular fresh donut for a dollar
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Date: November 4th, 2012 2:23 PM Author: odious mauve cuckold partner Y'all need to read the story of the doughnut king. http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jan/19/local/me-donutking19 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960433) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 4:03 PM Author: Diverse filthy mad cow disease sounds like he belongs on XO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21961383) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 4:10 PM Author: awkward boltzmann lol @ Hell A (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21961430) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:40 PM Author: fluffy demanding abode fronts for stripper bribing laundering operation (cops like donuts, ergo sum, etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21963870) |
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Date: August 12th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: Ultramarine trailer park (bloodacre) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#28538093) |
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Date: August 12th, 2015 10:26 PM Author: opaque garrison selfie celestial symbolism, it has to do with centrality in Nahua cosmology of the full eclipse. donut hole and donut were originally meant to be eaten together in evocation of the moon and solar corona. if it's authentic they'll be skin-bubbling hot and sprinkled with chili (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#28538130) |
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Date: August 12th, 2015 10:27 PM Author: Ultramarine trailer park dewd you are so full of shit sometimes lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#28538138) |