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Why does Los Angeles have so many DONUT SHOPS?

they're fucking everywhere. there will be multiple donut sho...
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Cambodians
mewling box office corn cake
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lots of asian donut shop owners. but who the fuck are the cu...
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cops
mewling box office corn cake
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maybe man, but how can these places make any money. they mus...
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yeah, i don't really know i guess
mewling box office corn cake
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also, if u ever go into one, they don't even seem particular...
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Indigo Messiness Shrine
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canadians, after mexicans canadians are the number 2 immigra...
Excitant Slap-happy Becky Feces
  07/06/12
WTFZ
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TY
sticky mood
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lots of cops
maniacal green depressive
  07/06/12
Same shit in san francisco brother at least 1 or 2 on every ...
Shimmering vibrant sneaky criminal double fault
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asian mafia imo. running money through cash buznezz
Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook
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Mister Donut or Krispy Kreme?
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  07/06/12
just random mom and pops + chains like yum yum and winchells...
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yum yum owns winchells. random fact.
Lavender Arrogant Boiling Water
  11/04/12
betta cop dat RANDYS
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http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2006/12/mmm_immigration....
Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook
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California seems to be full of main street ethnic niches. ...
Big Library
  11/04/12
very true, bro. but how the fuck do the donut shops make any...
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  11/04/12
Dough is cheap as fuck. They probably make each donut for li...
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  11/04/12
Used cars = Armenian
razzle jew
  11/04/12
places like that are generally a front for an illegal busine...
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  11/04/12
I doubt they actually conduct illegal activity there. It's j...
Jade locus
  11/04/12
there's a great "chinese food and donuts" place on...
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which one? there's probably like 4 lulz
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i went to a donut shop in la last night bro. i spent 1.80 f...
Lavender Arrogant Boiling Water
  11/04/12
nice. i asked a LAPD friend which donut shop is best and he ...
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  11/04/12
We also have a lot of obese Mexicans. Correlation or causati...
walnut puppy roast beef
  11/04/12
those bros are chowing down on the cheap mexican food for th...
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  11/04/12
Serious answer -- they balance out our relative lack of gas ...
walnut puppy roast beef
  11/04/12
most of the asian donut shops in sf have ridiculously cheap ...
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  11/04/12
$9 would be expensive as fuck in LA for a dozen. you can get...
Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook
  11/04/12
well considering i always end up with 16 or 17 donuts after ...
Submissive sex offender friendly grandma
  11/04/12
Hipster donut shops are surprisingly credited, as far as fre...
trip personal credit line circlehead
  11/04/12
they're more expensive in cities which aren't as cheap as ph...
Submissive sex offender friendly grandma
  11/04/12
Y'all need to read the story of the doughnut king. http://ar...
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  11/04/12
sounds like he belongs on XO
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lol @ Hell A
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fronts for stripper bribing laundering operation (cops like ...
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(bloodacre)
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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:19 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

they're fucking everywhere. there will be multiple donut shops on a single block. when you go into one, they are almost always empty. most people in LA are too fit to be eating donuts all the time. some weird shit going down in LA, bros. you heard it here first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031005)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:20 PM
Author: mewling box office corn cake

Cambodians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031009)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:21 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

lots of asian donut shop owners. but who the fuck are the customers? u rarely ever see anyone actually go into one of the donut shops. pretty sure they gotta be frontin drugs or some shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031016)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:27 PM
Author: mewling box office corn cake

cops

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031053)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:41 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

maybe man, but how can these places make any money. they must get like 1 customer per hour that buys $5 worth of stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031156)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:44 PM
Author: mewling box office corn cake

yeah, i don't really know i guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031178)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

also, if u ever go into one, they don't even seem particularly excited that u are there, even though u are probably the first person to come in in 3 hours, and even though the person there is probably of some relation to the owner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031196)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:39 PM
Author: Indigo Messiness Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960160)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:21 PM
Author: Excitant Slap-happy Becky Feces

canadians, after mexicans canadians are the number 2 immigrant group in LA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031017)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

WTFZ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031029)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:25 PM
Author: sticky mood

TY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031036)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:25 PM
Author: maniacal green depressive

lots of cops

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031039)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:26 PM
Author: Shimmering vibrant sneaky criminal double fault

Same shit in san francisco brother at least 1 or 2 on every block at minimum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031047)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:42 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

asian mafia imo. running money through cash buznezz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031159)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:28 PM
Author: Stimulating volcanic crater

Mister Donut or Krispy Kreme?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031067)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:40 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

just random mom and pops + chains like yum yum and winchells and shit. never seen a krispy kreme though im sure there are some of those too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031152)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:57 PM
Author: Lavender Arrogant Boiling Water

yum yum owns winchells. random fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960271)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:38 PM
Author: Hot effete boistinker elastic band

betta cop dat RANDYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031140)



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Date: July 6th, 2012 9:51 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2006/12/mmm_immigration.html

Before blogging, there were listservs. I ran one for Armchair Economists. (Technically, it's still up, but competition from blogging has all but killed it. That's Creative Destruction for you...) One of our liveliest debates revolved around the doughnut industry. In D.C. and New Jersey, big chains and stale doughnuts predominate. In L.A., independent shops with fresh doughnuts are the rule. What gives?

After learning a bit about the industry, I advanced a simple explanation: Los Angeles has Cambodian immigrants to thank for its happy situation. There are lots of Cambodians in L.A., and they've developed an amazing and self-sustaining network of doughnut entrepreneurship. In D.C. and New Jersey, there aren't many Cambodians, and for whatever reason, no other group of immigrants has what it takes to fill their shoes. That was my story, anyway.

Years later, the Los Angeles Daily News has vindicated my hypothesis:

Independent doughnut sellers in the Valley are so good at streamlining that they have kept the chains from invading.

Krispy Kreme shuttered half its stores in Southern California after the buzz about its hot doughnuts cooled off. Dunkin' Donuts doesn't have a single shop in the Valley and isn't looking to expand in the Golden State, according to its Web site.

Winchell's, the largest West Coast chain, has just 17 of the roughly 400 doughnut shops in the Valley.

"The small independent doughnut shop operators are able to run a lower overhead," said Lincoln Watase, president of Yum Yum Donut Shops, which owns Winchell's. The mom and pop stores don't have to pay managers, administrators and other support staffers like the chains do.

The article then reveals the Cambodian roots of this distinctive market structure:

Cambodians created a niche business out of doughnuts beginning with a La Habra store in 1977, according to James Allen and Eugene Turner in "The Ethnic Quilt."

"The business was successful, relatives trained with the owner and opened their own shops, and word of these opportunities spread widely within the community," the authors write.

But nobody eats doughnuts in Cambodia. The shops are just about economic survival, according to Allen and Turner. Not much English is required to run one, and loans through the Cambodian community made it possible for immigrants to open their own shops.

It's easy to give immigrants the credit for the explosion of ethnic dining. But it takes more insight to notice the role of immigrants in less exotic industries. In fact, I doubt I'd have to linger in an L.A. doughnut shop for long to overhear an elderly customer denounce the unmitigated evils of immigration while devouring a delicious Cambodian-made cruller.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21031235)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:16 PM
Author: Big Library

California seems to be full of main street ethnic niches.

Cambodians - run the donut shops

Chinese - dental offices

Indians - stationary stores

Persians - used cars

Vietnamese - nails

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960026)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:46 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

very true, bro. but how the fuck do the donut shops make any money? you would think the rent alone has to be more than they make off fucking donut sales.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960208)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 4:09 PM
Author: Vengeful laughsome private investor

Dough is cheap as fuck. They probably make each donut for like 10 cents tops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21961425)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:26 PM
Author: razzle jew

Used cars = Armenian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21963775)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:39 PM
Author: beta floppy background story ticket booth

places like that are generally a front for an illegal business like drug dealing or prostitution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960156)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 2:55 PM
Author: Jade locus

I doubt they actually conduct illegal activity there. It's just used to launder the profits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960676)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:40 PM
Author: Mentally impaired keepsake machete principal's office

there's a great "chinese food and donuts" place on sawtelle somewhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960169)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:46 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

which one? there's probably like 4 lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960213)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:42 PM
Author: Lavender Arrogant Boiling Water

i went to a donut shop in la last night bro. i spent 1.80 for two glazed donuts for me and the woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960182)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:47 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

nice. i asked a LAPD friend which donut shop is best and he said Yum Yum Donuts always has the freshest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960215)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:48 PM
Author: walnut puppy roast beef

We also have a lot of obese Mexicans. Correlation or causation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960223)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:49 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

those bros are chowing down on the cheap mexican food for the most part. i always see a billion of em in the campos tacos and shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960225)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 1:57 PM
Author: walnut puppy roast beef

Serious answer -- they balance out our relative lack of gas stations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960279)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 2:01 PM
Author: Submissive sex offender friendly grandma

most of the asian donut shops in sf have ridiculously cheap donuts (like $8-9 for a dozen of any kind, and one shop tosses in like 4 free donuts every dozen) but they're never really fresh. it's cool that I can get cheap ass donuts but I'd prefer at least a couple non-hipster donut shops with actual fresh, hot donuts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960297)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 2:10 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

$9 would be expensive as fuck in LA for a dozen. you can get a dozen here for like $5-6.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960356)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: Submissive sex offender friendly grandma

well considering i always end up with 16 or 17 donuts after buying a "dozen" its the same thing. the point is they're just cheap donuts but never freshly made

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21963754)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:25 PM
Author: trip personal credit line circlehead

Hipster donut shops are surprisingly credited, as far as freshness at least.

http://www.federaldonuts.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21963764)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:39 PM
Author: Submissive sex offender friendly grandma

they're more expensive in cities which aren't as cheap as philly. at least several of the places I've been to only have fancy donuts which cost $2-3 and you can't just a regular fresh donut for a dollar



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21963865)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 2:23 PM
Author: avocado supple market

Y'all need to read the story of the doughnut king. http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jan/19/local/me-donutking19

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21960433)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 4:03 PM
Author: Ultramarine low-t travel guidebook

sounds like he belongs on XO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21961383)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 4:10 PM
Author: histrionic costumed gay wizard

lol @ Hell A

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21961430)



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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:40 PM
Author: electric grizzly heaven jap

fronts for stripper bribing laundering operation (cops like donuts, ergo sum, etc.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#21963870)



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Date: August 12th, 2015 10:21 PM
Author: purple motley bawdyhouse newt

(bloodacre)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#28538093)



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Date: August 12th, 2015 10:26 PM
Author: Hyperventilating fishy university

celestial symbolism, it has to do with centrality in Nahua cosmology of the full eclipse. donut hole and donut were originally meant to be eaten together in evocation of the moon and solar corona. if it's authentic they'll be skin-bubbling hot and sprinkled with chili

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#28538130)



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Date: August 12th, 2015 10:27 PM
Author: purple motley bawdyhouse newt

dewd you are so full of shit sometimes lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1987973&forum_id=2#28538138)