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pretty bummed about the end of western civilization
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:01 AM Author: Multi-colored brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22048931) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:03 AM Author: Histrionic hell ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22048938) |
Date: November 15th, 2012 4:05 AM Author: Thriller theater yeah mang, sucks donkey dick. Read somewhere that the average life of great civs is ~200 years or so, though, so Murica is overdue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22048943) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:12 AM Author: Rose razzle-dazzle french chef well, that's usually the PEAK of power, though. rome, for instance, had hundreds of years of fucking around consolidating italy before becoming a great power.
i wouldn't say that the america of 1781-the early 1900's or so was an especially great power by western standards. nonetheless, i suspect our preeminence will not last until 2120 or whatever a 200-year cycle would predict. |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:14 AM Author: Histrionic hell When will it be over man? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22048961) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:15 AM Author: Multi-colored brethren decay will be obvious enough that even really dumb people and 12 year olds will be able to detect it within say 10 years.
Surpassed by China by say 2050. |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:16 AM Author: Thriller theater nice symmetry itt, breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22048967) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:15 AM Author: Thriller theater I'll go with 2050 or so. I think the Singularity will effectively pwn the shit out of all current old-world-style govts and nations, anyway, but our cultural and fiscal decline is objectively apparent to anyone paying attention (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22048965) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:34 AM Author: Histrionic hell what do you mean by the Singularity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22048996) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:40 AM Author: Thriller theater typically defined as rise of superhuman AI (given the fact that we'll have an exaflop supercomputer up and running in like ~5 years, by 2050, shit will be insane)
but I tend to use the term (yes, faggots, it's not the technical definition, but it works and is now commonly used this way) as a more general encapsulation of technological takeover in all areas of life: synthetic biology and direct genetic manipulation pre-birth, completely autonomous transportation, personal robots, augmented reality fully integrated into contact lenses and eventually the eyes and brain itself, etc. Will lead to a wholesale, involuntary, probably painful restructuring of everything we now think of as "society" (e.g. permanent unemployment >50%) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:54 AM Author: Histrionic hell do you think this will ever actually happen irl? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049020) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:59 AM Author: Thriller theater all of it. probably much more radically than I'm describing. Go back to the 70s and try to explain smartphones and the Internet in general and see if they believe you. That's the same timeframe we're talking about here, and technology only speeds up.
Foxconn just announced it will be replacing a fucking shitton of employees with robots: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-07/30/c_131018764.htm |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 5:06 AM Author: Histrionic hell LOL FUckkkkkkkkkk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049030) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:25 AM Author: Rose razzle-dazzle french chef it's ending right now, bro. but large institutions (and america is a huge institution) can have enormous amounts of momentum. so it's more a matter of very gradual deceleration from our current status.
it will show up in small ways, in many places, over time.
barring a truly exogenous jolt like a caldera eruption, i wouldn't expect a quick dissolution or collapse. i think modern technology and control systems have made it easier for the central state to avert something like a USSR-style dissolution, and one of the interesting trends of the future will be the implementation of subtler forms of control.
so for instance, old-style control would involve active policing, human informants, jails and interrogations, and paramilitary force to suppress protests.
technologized systems of control could take many forms, but something as simple as a network of biometric cameras/drones with the right algorithms could probably make passive predictions about things like the likelihood of crime or unrest in a given area based on subtle aspects of human behavior and motion and interaction, allowing even an absentee state to shuffle its resources around MUCH more quickly and effectively than an older-style regime. |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:31 AM Author: Thriller theater mfcr w/r/t drones everywhere (tens of thousands ordered for domestic use already), probs biometric implants of some kind, more direct involvement of govt in media as propaganda, etc.
self-driving cars is an easy one. Easily tracked, easily controlled by an outside third party (e.g. you're wanted for murder, car involuntarily pulls the fuck over and pwns you) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:35 AM Author: Histrionic hell TY
tell me more about the drones angle |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:43 AM Author: Rose razzle-dazzle french chef it's useful to think of drones not so much as individual units, but as airborne platforms that can be used for ANY kind of surveillance or information gathering, with the drone aspect merely providing the convenience and mobility of not having your sensors obstructed by the ground environment.
combine this with the fact that walls really don't shield a lot of retrievable "information" (heat and various electromagnetic spectrum frequencies) from passive scanners with the right gear, and you can see how drones make a lot of information visible to central authorities.
and we're only at the cusp of the age of true data analysis. we don't actually KNOW yet how much information about things like future human behavior can be determined from all the information we can currently gather with drones and other devices.
in the olden days, you didn't know if a riot or something similar would happen unless you had specific intelligence on people planning such a thing, or until it began to happen.
but for all we know, there are informational precursors that become apparent even days before a riot would normally take place.
this kind of forecasting allows for targeted disruption. |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:46 AM Author: Thriller theater good work itt.
data analysis is key. You hear a lot of buzz about "big data," but we've barely scratched the surface of being able to amass enormous amounts of minute data, compile it effectively, and algorithmically interpret it in a way that's actionable. The "internet of things" will play a big role here.
Eagle Eye was a really shitty movie and Shia Lebeouf is a faggot, but the concept itself is much more real than many people want to believe |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:49 AM Author: Wine stock car point shut the fuck up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049014) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:51 AM Author: Thriller theater SCATHING CRITIQUE
OH WHAT A SCHOLAR |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:52 AM Author: Wine stock car point stfu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049018) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:55 AM Author: Histrionic hell TY man TY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049022) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:45 AM Author: Thriller theater http://govwin.com/jksalini_blog/surveillance-drones-to-join-local/744036 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049009) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:56 PM Author: Vigorous piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22051820) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 4:15 AM Author: Thriller theater cr Rome dicking around = America growing out of its training wheels and eventually pwning teh British.
Start the clock at the end of WWII, when we were cemented as the undisputed hegemon.
MAYBE we'll make it to 2140. Maybe. Doubt it. |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:25 AM Author: Thriller theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049459) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:33 AM Author: red self-centered new version wtf is this shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049486) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:35 AM Author: Thriller theater LOL @ you if you don't think Western civilization is clearly tanking.
lol Europe lol Murica
West is fuarked |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:39 AM Author: Crimson Blood Rage Faggot Firefighter you are one of the dumbest posters on xo. it's weird that you see yourself as some sort of intellectual elite, denecrane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049508) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:40 AM Author: Thriller theater still have no fucking idea why people think I am him. makes no sense to me. multiple reputable poasters have acknowledged that we are not the same person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049517) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:41 AM Author: Crimson Blood Rage Faggot Firefighter sure thing den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049520) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:40 AM Author: red self-centered new version Are you talking about the end of America? I think it's a little early to be talking about that Nostradamus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049515) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:41 AM Author: Thriller theater did you survey this thread or not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049522) |
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Date: November 15th, 2012 10:43 AM Author: red self-centered new version I read the whole thing and it's completely ridiculous. STFU with this singularity shit, you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#22049533) |
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Date: October 16th, 2023 2:11 AM Author: cerebral cruel-hearted degenerate still LOLLERCAUSTING@ fucktarded cumskins bemoaning the death of the anglosphere for 30+ years now
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Date: October 16th, 2023 6:30 PM Author: cerebral cruel-hearted degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#46943790) |
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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:26 PM Author: cerebral cruel-hearted degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#47620231) |
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Date: April 29th, 2024 11:30 PM Author: cerebral cruel-hearted degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#47620402) |
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Date: April 29th, 2024 11:59 PM Author: navy digit ratio stage LOLLERCAUSTERING at the gooktard who never was on top and would cease to exist without america (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#47620453) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 12:00 AM Author: cerebral cruel-hearted degenerate lol cumskin dork IRATE@ my receipts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2114584&forum_id=2#47620455) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 12:32 AM Author: navy digit ratio stage "muh receipts"
LMAOlympics |