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Date: July 23rd, 2013 4:51 PM Author: charismatic salmon pit
for convicted felons?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2319009&forum_id=2#23704710)
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 4:55 PM Author: charismatic salmon pit
Extended solitary confinement leaves most people docile. Violence is rare and almost always self-directed. So there's one advantage right away.
I think it will have a deterrent effect when the previously violent armed robber is released from prison, talks to himself all the time, can barely get through sentences without breaking into tears, and finally kills himself one lonely night. I think it will strike the fear of God into potential criminals, to realize the State can wipe out your soul if it chooses. Prison is about fear, not repentance. Right now, we outsource that function to criminals. Unsurprisingly, people are only afraid of criminals. I think they should be more frightened of the State.
I personally enjoy the thought of wicked and lawless people being broken down completely. Why do we put people in prison? Because they're human garbage and nobody wants them. Criminals are selfish, they care only about themselves. Fine, they can live only with themselves. We're giving them absolutely what they want: a world in which there is no one else. If that drives them mad, good.
Good behavior can be rewarded with an occasional conversation with the guards. Stellar behavior might earn a visit from family. But the default punishment should be complete segregation from society.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2318308&forum_id=2#23703508
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 5:19 PM Author: charismatic salmon pit
1. Convicted felons deserve to be damaged irreversibly. There's nothing inherently unjust about the punishment.
2. Wrongful convictions are always possible under any system. Our current system punishes the wrongfully convicted much harsher than the hardened felons. You really think some mafia don is getting raped in prison showers? Of course not. It's usually people who are gentle and kind that suffer the worst abuse in our disgusting system. Every prison should induce fear, but we've outsourced that to criminals.
3. By contrast, solitary confinement would be less harsh for those who aren't hardened criminals, especially if good behavior earns limited interaction. But the narcissistic don used to victimizing others? He's suffering. Good. Hope he kills himself too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2319009&forum_id=2#23704896) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 5:35 PM Author: charismatic salmon pit
Rehabilitation is the choice of the prisoner, not the State.
Given the possibility for error, execution should be confined to murder and treason.
The punishment should fit the crime. Solitary confinement is appropriate for selfish people who have ruined the lives of others.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2319009&forum_id=2#23704980) |
Date: July 23rd, 2013 4:53 PM Author: underhanded glassy step-uncle's house famous landscape painting
Yes. You'd have to give them all life sentences because you would not want them released. They'd be crazy as fuck.
Five or ten or twenty years in solitary breaks your brain, man. If you're arguing for life sentences for all felonies and solitary, might as well just kill 'em.
By the way felonies include: driving with license suspended (third offense), possession of prescribed medicine with expired Rx, etc.
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 4:56 PM Author: underhanded glassy step-uncle's house famous landscape painting
copped dat cialis online? felon.
drove some weed over state line? felon.
inadvertently clicked on some 17yo porn? felon mfe.
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 5:02 PM Author: charismatic salmon pit
LOL, the recidivism argument you made is so stupid. Our current prisons *reward* criminality and brutality. The only way to survive the yard is by becoming vicious.
Solitary confinement leaves people cracked, but let's get real here: these people are already human garbage.
And as I pointed out, solitary confinement rarely leaves people violent after they're broken. When they do become violent, it's almost always entirely self-directed.
I'd say that's an improvement. Who cares if some trashy criminal hangs himself after release? Good fucking riddance.
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 6:46 PM Author: racy plaza
"possession of prescribed medicine with expired Rx"
WTF IS THIS BOOMER DOCTOR/PHARMACIST RACKETEERING BULLSHIT
I get rx for something in 3-month bottles. You're telling me if I miss ten doses while on vacation and at the end of 3-mo have ten pills left, I'm committing a felon?
FUCKING OBAMA'S BOOMER AMERICA
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 4:56 PM Author: Flatulent abode cuckold
it's not good if you intend to ever release them, because it causes insanity. it'd be better to move from panopticon big-jailhouse model prisons (where inmates can yell at each other and interact with guys from all throughout the facility) to a "hallway" model with just a few cells each, isolated by sound-dampened doors, with separate small shower facilities and everything.
that way, you interact with other prisoners, but only the dudes in your own small hallway. japan rather famously uses this model in some of its jails. it fits into the whole shinto aesthetic of calmness and control.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2319009&forum_id=2#23704750) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 5:24 PM Author: charismatic salmon pit
"To be sure, fights among inmates do happen, as Takashi Akemitsu can attest. Mr. Akemitsu, 69, who has spent nearly four decades in different prisons in Japan, was first jailed for theft and later killed another inmate in a fight."
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/08/world/prisons-in-japan-are-safe-but-harsh.html
We're quibbling about a minor difference here. I think this system is better than ours, but I still think mine is best.
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 5:15 PM Author: underhanded glassy step-uncle's house famous landscape painting
Srsly, the Australia model was the best. And its not like we've run out of uninhabited but inhabitable far away places.
Serious criminal? One way ticket. Maybe you'll create a civilization over there.
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Date: July 23rd, 2013 10:13 PM Author: Coral glittery dysfunction masturbator
dunno about you guys but id rather share the world with felons (many of whom are guilty of dumb drug-related shit - how is that "evil" or "selfish"?) than a scary, sadistic person like the op
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2319009&forum_id=2#23706987)
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