One wrong 90's prediction: Mexican music did NOT converge w/rap
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Date: August 16th, 2013 1:58 AM Author: mint sinister nibblets
if you go back to the late 90's, there were a series of mexican bands such as control machete, molotov, and plastilina mosh which incorporated rap elements into their albums. argentine band Illya Kuryaki & The Valderramas did an album with bootsy collins which produced the 1999 global superhit "jennifer del estero":
http://vimeo.com/11796803
the thinking was, rap and mexican/latin music are going to converge, and that will be the new direction of latin music generally.
that did not happen AT ALL in mexico. there was some convergence with caribbean hispanics (reggaeton, etc.), but mexicans actually RETRENCHED deep into regionalism - that meant horns, accordions, mexican big bands, and the "corrido" style of languid storytelling-singing.
rather than rap hybrids, THIS is kind of music which came to dominate the northern mexican "scene" by the mid-2000's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3VZZS2nzw#t=10s
rather than adopting a cholo/hip-hop clothing style, modern mexican gangbangers look like preppy cowboys:
http://i2.listal.com/image/2304587/600full-valentin-elizalde.jpg
mexicans in the US are occasional consumers of rap, but that was actually more of a "chicano" thing popular among "integrated" mexican-americans. many mexicans in the US regard rap as completely foreign, and prefer their own concerts/festivals with lineups like this:
http://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/1045097_204049686414705_1655803504_n.jpg
http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/17/cfd02c725d2f481b9ae06b5eb6bc0925/l.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/1098474_494198420657194_856710867_n.jpg
it's an interesting failure of a predicted trend, and not one i have seen remarked upon very much at all.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23850431) |
Date: August 16th, 2013 3:59 PM Author: mint sinister nibblets
another related thwarted trend is the "latin crossover" song, at least so far as it involved mexicans. you can shape an enrique iglesias song for the non-hispanic american market, but try doing that with many of mexico's current most popular bands:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVlAmP-KDT4
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23853446) |
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Date: August 25th, 2013 11:02 PM Author: mint sinister nibblets
it's an arcane bit of sociology. but considering all the political implications of "hispanics," i think it's good to note just how continuously wrong mainstream "commentators" have been about the nature and habits of mexicans in america.
from what i can see, a good deal of the top "hispanic" political consultants on both sides are cubans. cubans are less than 4% of america's hispanic population, while mexicans alone are almost 2/3rds.
these are some sub rosa trends, because - after all - who really pays attention to mexicans? but there sure are a lot of them, in america...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932517) |
Date: September 9th, 2013 7:03 PM Author: mint sinister nibblets
here's the latest super-hit from banda el recodo, released a few days ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXa8LjXNshs
they filmed the video in NYC this time. the sound, though, remains thoroughly mexican.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#24021790) |
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