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REMINDER: The Shroud of Turin is most likely authentic
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:07 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag Not only is the image on the shroud amazingly realistic (3D image, actual blood stains, blood shows evidence of extreme trauma, nails in the wrists rather than the hands, etc), but scientists have no explanation for how the image formed or how it possibly could have formed. Literally every piece of evidence collected, except for the C-14 testing, points toward it being authentic and beyond explanation. The only evidence that produces doubt is the C-14 testing, but it has been conclusively shown the samples tested came from a section of the cloth that was repaired many centuries later. Brothers, it's real. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:09 AM Author: Brass patrolman voyeur It isn't necessarily Jesus though, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24939925) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:10 AM Author: magical pocket flask multi-billionaire it's A Jesus, not necessarily THE Jesus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24939933) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 8:51 PM Author: Amethyst Curious Ratface Idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41606592) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:12 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag nah, crucified bros in ancient Rome produced supernaturally-imposed images on the burial sheets pretty regularly. They also were all flogged and given a crown of thorns and pierced in the side as part of the standard ritual. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24939939) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 3:41 AM Author: Excitant Brunch Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166584) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 5:55 AM Author: Apoplectic Cyan Stage I think the piercing in the side was somewhat standard for crucifixions, something about draining excess fluid buildup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166619) |
Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:09 AM Author: spectacular box office sweet tailpipe Why do you need SCIENCE to corroborate matters of faith?
If you believe Jesus turned water into wine or flies in the sky like Superman, then what the fuck is C-14 testing going to prove or disprove? |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:14 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag I don't see why these matters need to be based on faith alone. If there's a God, he is obviously a God of logic and reason. Everything in this world is logical and consistent, allowing science to exist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24939952) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:17 AM Author: spectacular box office sweet tailpipe Except, according to Christians, God operates in a way that our puny human brain cannot understand with logic or reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24939962) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:18 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag What the majority of modern mainstream Christians believe is irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24939968) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:33 AM Author: Metal den how can an all-powerful deity be restricted by logic and reason? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940206) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:35 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940211) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:41 AM Author: Metal den pretty straight forward question bro. How can an all-powerful being be restricted by logic? it doesn't make sense to insist that the work of a supernatural being must be explainable through science (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940223) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:43 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag I'm saying if there's a God, and he created this universe, he obviously instilled consistent logic in its design and operation. I said nothing about how this God is restricted, only his design choice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940228) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:48 AM Author: Metal den if the shroud is an act of God, then its authenticity is not necessarily provable by scientific means (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940237) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:50 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag Sure, only 'proven' by deduction, which isn't actual proof. There are ALWAYS alternative ways to explain things, even if absurd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940242) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:51 AM Author: Metal den which is where faith comes in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940248) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:54 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag (guy who believes math requires faith) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940256) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:59 AM Author: Metal den terrible analogy bro. trying to shoehorn scientific methods into religion is a waste of time, it's kind of like analytic philosophy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940269) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:07 PM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag Reading this again 3.5 years later, you got pwned, bro. Sorry you had to go pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#36470955) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:33 AM Author: khaki painfully honest dilemma only when logic/reason call the existence of God into question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940205) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:37 AM Author: jade exhilarant market Not anymore. They did that for a few thousand years but now that the Shroud of Turin is proven authentic they will just rest on this undeniable proof that the bible is correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940214) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:11 AM Author: Citrine hall why does jesus look like a medieval knight? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24939935) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 12:25 AM Author: soul-stirring house I just read the entire Wikipedia article on the shroud of Turin. Sounds like there are conflicting studies on every aspect of the shroud, including some who say the image has incorrect proportions to be a human being and some who say it looks authentic.
If it is a fake based on a human corpse, imagine how fucked up it must have been to make it. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:25 AM Author: slippery bateful principal's office police squad guys at my priory used to use corpses to fabricate religious relics all the time, it was nbd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940182) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:50 AM Author: soul-stirring house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940244) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:30 AM Author: Metal den http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v337/n6208/abs/337611a0.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940195) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:33 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag These samples were tested from a corner of the shroud that has been conclusively shown to have been repaired. The results are not accurate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940202) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:54 AM Author: slippery bateful principal's office police squad link to this conclusive analysis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940258) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:58 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_14_dating_of_the_Shroud_of_Turin#The_sample_was_part_of_a_later_repair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940265) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 2:02 AM Author: Hairraiser mustard center boistinker (the courtroom collectively gasps as the stunned opposing expert breaks down in tears on the stand. "Dr. Pumo?" "Dr. Pumo?" "Don't you have anything to say now?" "I'm sorry Dr. Pumo, we can't hear you." "Anything?") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940272) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 2:03 AM Author: soul-stirring house (judge ineffectively yells "order, order, order") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940275) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 2:03 AM Author: Hairraiser mustard center boistinker (opposing lawyer half rises, embarrassedly clears his throat: "your honor, may we ... may we have a brief recess so our expert can ... collect his thoughts?" crossing counsel: "actually, your honor, I don't think that will be necessary. no further questions. we're done here.") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940276) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 8:53 PM Author: Amethyst Curious Ratface Idiot 180 subthread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41606602) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 2:10 AM Author: slippery bateful principal's office police squad bro this analysis is hotly disputed. i asked for a conclusive analysis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940300) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 2:16 AM Author: Hairraiser mustard center boistinker (Q: "Sir, if I understand you correctly, did you just say 'this analysis is hotly disputed." A: "Yes, that's right." Q: "And this is the analysis that the plaintiff, your client, is relying on to claim that the shroud dates to medieval times." A: "Yes, sure, but my point is that there isn't CONCLUSIVE evidence it is inaccurate -- it's just hotly disputed. You see ...." Q: "Sir, thank you so much for your time. No further questions.") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940328) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 12:50 AM Author: provocative black round eye trump supporter And they never tested some other part of the shroud why, exactly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166426) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:52 AM Author: Effete State If the first carbon testing was flawed, why haven't they tested it again to prove that it's totes real? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940252) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:55 AM Author: soul-stirring house I believe they do not have permission, because radio carbon dating requires destruction of part of the shroud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940261) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 1:58 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940266) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 2:00 AM Author: soul-stirring house I don't know why the people who make tons of money allowing pilgrims to view the shroud would not want to have a small portion of it tested again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940271) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 2:11 AM Author: Offensive duck-like athletic conference resort What fucks with me about this thing is how incredibly sophisticated the forger must have been. It's very hard to account for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24940304) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 2:11 AM Author: soul-stirring house I had a fuck-ton of caffeine today so I am reading about the shroud of Turin online
here is a PDF that argues that the shroud was produced by radiation. it contains I believe the strongest version of the pro-shroud claims http://www.shroudofturin.com/Resources/SDTV1.3.pdf |
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Date: February 2nd, 2014 10:51 PM Author: Motley smoky school international law enforcement agency (actual retard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#24946989) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2018 9:41 PM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#37460670) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2018 9:45 PM Author: bistre goyim kitty cat 🤔 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#37460695) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 4:59 PM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41605212) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 5:16 PM Author: brilliant kink-friendly range trust fund No joke— bp and I were just discussing this in the car yesterday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41605304) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 5:16 PM Author: brilliant kink-friendly range trust fund Will poast more when I’m in front of a computer again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41605307) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 5:21 PM Author: at-the-ready doobsian national idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41605327) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 5:42 PM Author: Aromatic Office Hairy Legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41605468) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 8:26 PM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41606421) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 12:40 AM Author: Vigorous sneaky criminal party of the first part Guess he died in a car crash on the way home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166409) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 5:58 PM Author: Maniacal rebellious native striped hyena lol. Come on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#41605563) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2021 8:09 PM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#42395536) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2021 8:13 PM Author: hyperventilating abode It’s highly unlikely Jesus sported the kind of long hair shown in the shroud. That was more of a medieval European depiction. First century Jewish males didn’t have long hair. Paul, a contemporary of Christ, called long hair on men “shameful.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#42395558) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2021 8:16 PM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag ...so that's all you need to throw the mountain of evidence away? Hair length? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#42395573) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2021 8:17 PM Author: hyperventilating abode Lol at “mountain.” Odd case the shroud looks exactly like Italian Renaissance depictions of Jesus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#42395581) |
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Date: May 4th, 2021 12:15 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag Brother, read/watch one good article/video on the topic. The evidence of this being the burial shroud of Christ is absolutely overwhelming. It's truly astounding. There is literally zero explanation for how it could possibly have been forged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#42396767) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 12:46 AM Author: hyperventilating abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166417) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 12:36 AM Author: pearly alcoholic bawdyhouse nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166403) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 12:49 AM Author: hyperventilating abode In 1988, radiocarbon dating by three different laboratories established that the shroud's linen material was produced between the years 1260 and 1390 (to a 95% confidence level).[6][4]: 71–72  Defenders of the authenticity of the shroud have questioned those results, usually on the basis that the samples tested might have been contaminated or taken from medieval repairs to the original fabric. All of these fringe hypotheses have been scientifically refuted by carbon-dating experts and others based on evidence from the shroud itself,[7] including the medieval repair hypothesis,[8][9][10] the bio-contamination hypothesis[11] and the carbon monoxide hypothesis.[12][13] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166425) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 12:52 AM Author: Vigorous sneaky criminal party of the first part Woah, woah, woah, but we don't know the exact details of how the forgery was made, therefore it's twice as old and authentic.
Even if it is older than we think, there's no chain of custody that shows it has anything to do with Jesus. wtf this thread is weird flame. |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 12:57 AM Author: hyperventilating abode Xo is retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166442) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 3:27 AM Author: bossy brindle tanning salon oh wow every piece of evidence other than the scientific evidence saying the artifact was produced 1400 hundred years too late. https://images.app.goo.gl/gwiDxbRHkmfpBUip6 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2483749&forum_id=2#46166581) |
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Date: April 10th, 2023 10:32 AM Author: Narrow-minded keepsake machete fat ankles It's a great piece of artwork intended to exploit the medieval market for relics.
It's a type of early photograph based on a statue body and a separate statue head that were "photographed" onto an old-appearing cloth by the use of silver nitrate and a darkened chamber with a peephole of light allowed in.
It was really ingenious. |