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West Point/Annapolis/AFACADEMY are FUCKING FLAME

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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
sorry azn, but above average well rounded > top 1% nerd ...
odious rusted rigor
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
sorry bro. your 99 percentile SAT/LSAT doesnt mean shit aspi...
odious rusted rigor
  05/26/14
" (only legit sport is lax, which is a legit TTT sportt...
Topaz friendly grandma trailer park
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Guy who was repeatedly stuffed into a locker throughout his ...
Topaz friendly grandma trailer park
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Hah, no but you seem like a really impressive, likable guy.
Topaz friendly grandma trailer park
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Well, you're not even close. I was making more than that wor...
Topaz friendly grandma trailer park
  05/25/14
TBF, anyone who didn't grown up on LI, VA and MD bashes LAX ...
Rose spot reading party
  05/25/14
I didn't grow up in any of those places; not to mention that...
Topaz friendly grandma trailer park
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
I'm not saying I'm the toughest; just that I have respect fo...
Topaz friendly grandma trailer park
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electric sienna therapy
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pearly keepsake machete
  10/21/19
you seem MAF.
Flesh giraffe pozpig
  05/25/14
Somebody's a little MAF today
Rose spot reading party
  05/25/14
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
West Point grad here. You mad?
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
you seem pretty irate about that USCGA ding.
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
My college experience was not SPS, but then again, it isn't ...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
I'm not sure what got your panties all in a bunch today, but...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
lol, weird stalker bro. Just because I wasn't pwning cunn...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Good See how that works?
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
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LJL at how MAF you are. Love how xoers get all fucking bent ...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Ok bro. Good one. Obvious superior intellect at work here...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Now worries man. The OP really singled you out as a chill, w...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
WTF I'm not MDH
Rose spot reading party
  05/25/14
Really? You're okay, bro.
Supple impressive parlour sneaky criminal
  05/25/14
no one thinks that people in the military are smart
Hateful center puppy
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
the people you're describing are a statistical anomaly
Hateful center puppy
  05/25/14
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
and yet, 98 percent of HYPS students couldn't get admitted
low-t kitchen hissy fit
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
LOL no
low-t kitchen hissy fit
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
my sister's assoc dean of admission at an ivy and my dad's a...
low-t kitchen hissy fit
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
perfectly normal thread to make on a sunday night
Maize dashing stage
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Seriously, USMMA at Kings Point is way ahead of the USAFA.
excitant geriatric lay
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pearly keepsake machete
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electric sienna therapy
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electric sienna therapy
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Psychotic dude from high school went to West Point. I think ...
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electric sienna therapy
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I like how people make the argument that it is somehow more ...
Confused idiot
  05/25/14
Academically, it's not more selective. However, the process ...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Considering the physical nature of our profession, accepting...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
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OK, good for them got any stats/link to back that up? ...
Rose spot reading party
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electric sienna therapy
  05/25/14
Yeah, recruiters never lie. Not MAF at all, good on those...
Rose spot reading party
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but but... his 1520 SAT score. How dare you imply he is any...
Topaz friendly grandma trailer park
  05/26/14
That doesn't seem right. Why is the acceptance rate 10%, th...
Topaz friendly grandma trailer park
  05/26/14
don't shoot anyone over it bro
fragrant hilarious telephone hominid
  05/25/14
you cant quantify the connections made at a service academy
indigo depressive
  05/26/14
I did ROTC. My academy friends did miss out on a regular col...
bronze really tough guy
  05/26/14
Is OP Tommy T?
Chestnut Heady Senate Roommate
  08/22/19
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pearly keepsake machete
  08/22/19
http://www.johntreed.net/gotousma.html relevant to this t...
Well-lubricated walnut turdskin abode
  08/22/19
settle down, Chong
Citrine Coffee Pot
  08/22/19
Service academies are getting wrecked by the twin forces of ...
Mustard Sweet Tailpipe Locale
  10/21/19
All colleges are getting wrecked similarly.
pearly keepsake machete
  10/21/19


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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:27 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:56 PM
Author: odious rusted rigor

sorry azn, but above average well rounded > top 1% nerd

hth

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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:05 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 26th, 2014 6:55 PM
Author: odious rusted rigor

sorry bro. your 99 percentile SAT/LSAT doesnt mean shit aspie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25633387)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 10:34 PM
Author: Topaz friendly grandma trailer park

" (only legit sport is lax, which is a legit TTT sporttt)."

Anyone who would say this is a complete wussy, whose opinions on sports should be ignored. Stick to talking about tennis and golf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628848)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 10:37 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 10:48 PM
Author: Topaz friendly grandma trailer park

Guy who was repeatedly stuffed into a locker throughout his high school career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628910)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:04 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:08 PM
Author: Topaz friendly grandma trailer park

Hah, no but you seem like a really impressive, likable guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629014)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:15 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:40 PM
Author: Topaz friendly grandma trailer park

Well, you're not even close. I was making more than that working in IB a year out of school. I've never seen anyone try to bash lacrosse like that; so it's quite clear you're not tough enough to be a part of it or anything similar, which makes sense that you would be inclined to start a thread denigrating West Point and being upset that its grads are respected. Not that I would want to go there, but don't need to create a thread whining that they're as respected as me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629238)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:41 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

TBF, anyone who didn't grown up on LI, VA and MD bashes LAX on a regular basis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629250)



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Date: May 26th, 2014 6:54 PM
Author: Topaz friendly grandma trailer park

I didn't grow up in any of those places; not to mention that the credibility of a sport shouldn't be related to where you grew up but as a measurement of its own merit.

Guess my athletic prowess must be inferior to people growing up playing badminton and croquet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25633382)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:47 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 26th, 2014 6:50 PM
Author: Topaz friendly grandma trailer park

I'm not saying I'm the toughest; just that I have respect for those who are, while you're mocking what you don't understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25633359)



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Date: May 26th, 2014 12:25 AM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: October 21st, 2019 1:43 AM
Author: pearly keepsake machete



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:28 PM
Author: Flesh giraffe pozpig

you seem MAF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628198)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:29 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

Somebody's a little MAF today



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628204)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:34 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:35 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

West Point grad here.

You mad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628244)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:36 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:36 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

you seem pretty irate about that USCGA ding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628251)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:38 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:40 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

My college experience was not SPS, but then again, it isn't for everyone. Nothing wrong with going the ROTC or OCS route. What we don't do is shit on everyone else out of some faux sense of superiority like some pumos on this tweetchatbort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628273)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:43 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:47 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

I'm not sure what got your panties all in a bunch today, but trying to compare a SERVICE academy to a traditional college or the Ivy League is just retarded as their goals are widely divergent. Academies exist to produce OFFICERS who will lead Soldiers/Marines/Sailors/Airman etc. They are not there to indulge your intellectual whims. Like I said, I liked my college experience, but it isn't for everyone and a lot of people leave the Academies wondering what the fuck they just did for the last 4 years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628319)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:52 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:55 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

lol, weird stalker bro.

Just because I wasn't pwning cunnus every weekend in college doesn't mean I didn't value the experience I had there.

Obviously you would have DORd the first week.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628358)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:58 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:59 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

Good

See how that works?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628374)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:02 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:10 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

LJL at how MAF you are. Love how xoers get all fucking bent out of shape about shit that has no bearing on their lives.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628443)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:11 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:12 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

Ok bro. Good one.

Obvious superior intellect at work here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628452)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:15 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:17 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

Now worries man. The OP really singled you out as a chill, well adjusted ladies man due to your superior college experience.

Good luck with the rest of your megapoasting.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628469)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:21 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:37 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

WTF I'm not MDH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628257)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:37 PM
Author: Supple impressive parlour sneaky criminal

Really? You're okay, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628259)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:48 PM
Author: Hateful center puppy

no one thinks that people in the military are smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628324)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:03 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:26 PM
Author: Hateful center puppy

the people you're describing are a statistical anomaly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628504)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:28 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:34 PM
Author: low-t kitchen hissy fit

and yet, 98 percent of HYPS students couldn't get admitted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628239)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:35 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:36 PM
Author: low-t kitchen hissy fit

LOL no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628250)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:36 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:37 PM
Author: low-t kitchen hissy fit

my sister's assoc dean of admission at an ivy and my dad's a guidance counselor. i've forgottten more about college admissions than you'll ever know, pumo bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628260)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:40 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:40 PM
Author: Maize dashing stage

perfectly normal thread to make on a sunday night

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628278)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:58 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 8:48 PM
Author: excitant geriatric lay

Seriously, USMMA at Kings Point is way ahead of the USAFA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628321)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:28 AM
Author: pearly keepsake machete



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:15 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 9:56 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 10:37 PM
Author: Mentally impaired sanctuary antidepressant drug

Psychotic dude from high school went to West Point. I think he got kicked out after a year for refusing to respect their authority.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25628855)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 10:37 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:07 PM
Author: Confused idiot

I like how people make the argument that it is somehow more selective than ivies.

Based on what? Their test scores are shit. What is the criteria that makes it selective?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629003)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:12 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

Academically, it's not more selective. However, the process seeks to identify those who will make good officers, which isn't necessarily the person with double 800s and a 165 IQ.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629040)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:17 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:19 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

Considering the physical nature of our profession, accepting someone who places a premium on physical fitness/athletics isn't flame. Not to mention that sports serve as an excellent way to teach leadership and teamwork skills, which are obviously very relevant to an being a good officer.

You really do come off as some MAF twink loser reject.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629082)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:24 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:26 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

OK, good for them

got any stats/link to back that up?

Totally secure about my 100% GOVERNMENT FUNDED education.

Also, you mad I actually got PAID to attend college?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629138)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:28 PM
Author: electric sienna therapy



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:30 PM
Author: Rose spot reading party

Yeah, recruiters never lie.

Not MAF at all, good on those OCS bros, served with a lot of great ROTC and OCS commissioned officers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629167)



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Date: May 26th, 2014 7:02 PM
Author: Topaz friendly grandma trailer park

but but... his 1520 SAT score. How dare you imply he is anything but superior to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25633422)



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Date: May 26th, 2014 6:57 PM
Author: Topaz friendly grandma trailer park

That doesn't seem right. Why is the acceptance rate 10%, then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25633401)



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Date: May 25th, 2014 11:16 PM
Author: fragrant hilarious telephone hominid

don't shoot anyone over it bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25629065)



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Date: May 26th, 2014 6:57 PM
Author: indigo depressive

you cant quantify the connections made at a service academy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25633400)



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Date: May 26th, 2014 9:25 PM
Author: bronze really tough guy

I did ROTC. My academy friends did miss out on a regular college experience.

Really sounded shitty, actually.

But dudes, Annapolis is a prestigious place and they are more ready to be junior officers in year 1 and 2. After that, everything levels out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#25634406)



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Date: August 22nd, 2019 8:35 PM
Author: Chestnut Heady Senate Roommate

Is OP Tommy T?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#38727821)



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Date: August 22nd, 2019 10:01 PM
Author: pearly keepsake machete



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Date: August 22nd, 2019 9:40 PM
Author: Well-lubricated walnut turdskin abode

http://www.johntreed.net/gotousma.html

relevant to this thread. an old USMA grad who thinks WP's kinda flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#38728076)



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Date: August 22nd, 2019 9:51 PM
Author: Citrine Coffee Pot

settle down, Chong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#38728108)



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Date: October 21st, 2019 1:55 AM
Author: Mustard Sweet Tailpipe Locale

Service academies are getting wrecked by the twin forces of diversity and sportscuckery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#39006132)



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Date: October 21st, 2019 2:07 AM
Author: pearly keepsake machete

All colleges are getting wrecked similarly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2576581&forum_id=2#39006143)