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Reminder: the best way to stop a mass shooter is to be ALPHA.

Any kind of violent confrontation is emotionally difficult; ...
swashbuckling stage
  05/27/14
what about rampage killers like the "blue-on-green"...
bull headed concupiscible fanboi indian lodge
  05/27/14
that seems like a very different kind of mental break
wonderful house-broken abode therapy
  05/27/14
When I was in HS the gunman was the captain of the football ...
stubborn doctorate
  05/27/14
Why not just shoot back? Considering that many people get in...
Talented Vermilion Boltzmann Potus
  05/27/14
i suspect law enforcement will eventually have robots for th...
bull headed concupiscible fanboi indian lodge
  05/27/14
shitlibs dream world
wonderful house-broken abode therapy
  05/27/14
(unpatriotic guy dishonoring our brave drone operators)
swashbuckling stage
  05/27/14
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Date: May 27th, 2014 7:17 PM
Author: swashbuckling stage

Any kind of violent confrontation is emotionally difficult; the situation of facing another person whom one wants to harm produces confrontational tension/fear (ct/f ); and its effect most of the time is to make violence abort, or to become inaccurate and ineffective. The usual micro-sociological patterns that allow violence to succeed are not present in a rampage killing; group support does not exist, because one or two killers confront a much larger crowd: in contrast, most violence in riots takes place in little clumps where the attackers have an advantage of around 6-to-1.

Another major pathway around ct/f is attacking a weak victim. But in almost all violence, the weakness is emotional rather than physical-- even an armed attacker has to establish emotional dominance, before he can carry out effective violence. One might think this is simply a matter of using a gun or displaying a weapon, which automatically puts the armed person in the position of strength, the others in a position of weakness. Nevertheless, detailed analysis of incidents and photos of armed confrontations show that groups without guns can emotionally paralyze an armed opponent, preventing him from using his weapon.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e2qMkesz_fI/UEKPH2a23mI/AAAAAAAAAAs/ZFcdGH6G62U/s1600/Belgrade.4vsSoldier%252Cgun%252Cjpg%2Bcopy%2B1.jpg

Guns provide emotional dominance when an armed individual threatens a peaceful group and they try to hide or run away. This depends on the style of the victims. When rival street gangs clash, they do not turn their backs; they are used to gesturing, with and without guns, and most such face-to-face confrontations wind down. Running away has the effect of confirming emotional dominance; it is easier to shoot a person in the back than in the front; and turning away or attempting to hide one's face has the effect of removing one's greatest deterrent-- eye-contact with the opponent. Thus the hundreds who piled on the floor in the theatre at Aurora, or who ran from the attacker on the Norwegian island, may have saved some percentage of themselves; but they collectively could have saved more than ended up being killed or wounded, if they had used their superior numbers to confront the attacker. I don't mean just the possibility of physically overcoming him, but taking advantage of the fact that groups are always emotionally stronger than individuals, if they can keep themselves together and put up an emotionally united front: they could probably have made him stop shooting.

If this sounds implausible, consider how rampage shootings usually end: in a 1997 school shooting at Paducah, Kentucky, the solo killer, a 14-year-old boy who opened fire on a prayer group in the school hall, allowed a teacher and the prayer leader to come up to him and take his gun away as soon as he had shot 8 girls and boys (who were facing away from him). I will discuss this case in detail below. The Aurora theatre killer gave himself up to the police without resistance after he left the theatre. Even Breivik, the Norwegian killer, who stated a strong ideological motive for his killings, gave himself up without a fight once armed authorities arrived on the island, although he had plenty of ammunition left. The key point here is not simply that the Norwegian police were armed, and the teenage campers were not; but rather that the police confronted him, while the teens ran away and turned their backs. Rampage killers almost always give themselves up peacefully, or else commit suicide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2578223&forum_id=2#25639920)



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Date: May 27th, 2014 7:19 PM
Author: bull headed concupiscible fanboi indian lodge

what about rampage killers like the "blue-on-green" dudes in afghanistan who just gun down their fellow soldiers until they themselves are killed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2578223&forum_id=2#25639928)



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Date: May 27th, 2014 7:24 PM
Author: wonderful house-broken abode therapy

that seems like a very different kind of mental break

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2578223&forum_id=2#25639957)



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Date: May 27th, 2014 7:19 PM
Author: stubborn doctorate

When I was in HS the gunman was the captain of the football team and he targeted the mathletes and girls he had fukkd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2578223&forum_id=2#25639929)



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Date: May 27th, 2014 7:23 PM
Author: Talented Vermilion Boltzmann Potus

Why not just shoot back? Considering that many people get into shootouts with police and do not commit suicide or surrender, the only way to guarantee an end to a mass shooting 100% of the time is to destroy the central nervous system of the attacker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2578223&forum_id=2#25639951)



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Date: May 27th, 2014 7:25 PM
Author: bull headed concupiscible fanboi indian lodge

i suspect law enforcement will eventually have robots for this specific task. the robot will survey the environment, get a "kill" order, and annihilate its assigned target.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2578223&forum_id=2#25639967)



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Date: May 27th, 2014 7:26 PM
Author: wonderful house-broken abode therapy

shitlibs dream world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2578223&forum_id=2#25639971)



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Date: May 27th, 2014 7:34 PM
Author: swashbuckling stage

(unpatriotic guy dishonoring our brave drone operators)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2578223&forum_id=2#25640011)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: swashbuckling stage



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