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Forbes: What It Costs To Live Well

http://www.forbes.com/static_html/lifestyle/charts.shtml
mewling reading party associate
  03/20/15
LOL at fucking New York City
pontificating gaping genital piercing
  03/20/15
The one that should stick out is Boston, as in, why would an...
Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/20/15
tbf any NYC metric is including the whole city (if not metro...
honey-headed crackhouse
  03/20/15
Wha? This is for living well and is projecting a $3.9M home...
Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/20/15
dem beans
geriatric aphrodisiac parlour
  03/20/15
Boston suburbs >>> NYC suburbs
fuchsia parlor
  03/25/15
we are in violent disagreement here
Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/25/15
By the way, does that graphic load really slowly, line by li...
mewling reading party associate
  03/20/15
They're just building DAT EXCITEMENT brother!
Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/20/15
That's how Xo works.
Milky cuckoldry step-uncle's house
  03/20/15
I suspect that's old. Seattle is way down there.
mewling reading party associate
  03/20/15
Yeah LOL at Seattle being cheaper than Houston.
vigorous harsh codepig dilemma
  03/20/15
Finally, this is exactly what I've been saying and everyone ...
Trip frozen theater stage
  03/20/15
"B-b-but I HAVE to live in the BERESFORD!", TMF li...
Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/20/15
If you want to live that lifestyle then even $500k isn't cut...
Trip frozen theater stage
  03/20/15
some of those "expenses" are ridiculous. it includ...
Underhanded Lime Trailer Park
  03/20/15
a) I would adjust some of those in several directions. Goo...
Trip frozen theater stage
  03/20/15
nah you need vacation money, but not a HOME. most people don...
Underhanded Lime Trailer Park
  03/20/15
I'm not really quibbling with this (and you just described w...
Trip frozen theater stage
  03/20/15
time shares are ridiculous, but for $55k/year, you could rea...
maniacal newt generalized bond
  03/20/15
damn didn't know houston was seattle level expensive
Underhanded Lime Trailer Park
  03/20/15
It isn't.
passionate multi-billionaire new version
  03/20/15
how are they defining living well?
Charismatic flatulent ceo
  03/20/15
The explain it here: http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/17/lif...
mewling reading party associate
  03/20/15
LOL @ needing a 4mm Apt AND a 2mm vacation home for NYC to b...
onyx faggotry hospital
  03/20/15
LOL @ spending $400K to live in fucking Boston
soul-stirring striped hyena
  03/20/15
Index for cost of living EXTREMELY well. http://www.forbe...
mewling reading party associate
  03/20/15
DBG MAF that Forbes uses a clay court in their example.
Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/20/15
...
Abnormal rigpig dopamine
  03/20/15
180
peach national security agency
  03/24/15
you're just throwing away money if you're spending $20K per ...
soul-stirring striped hyena
  03/20/15
Bro, if you can't afford to live well, that's ok.
mewling reading party associate
  03/20/15
isn't the whole point of having a $4M house that you don't h...
soul-stirring striped hyena
  03/20/15
no, thats the point of having a 786k house.
free-loading indian lodge
  03/20/15
lol titcr. Although I'd replace house with "50-year-old...
razzle candlestick maker
  03/20/15
Hahahahaha. Hold on, let me catch my breath. Hahahahah...
Violet electric church nibblets
  03/21/15
these numbers are post-tax. jesus.
soul-stirring striped hyena
  03/20/15
Well this is retarded. The cost of your (necessary) vaca...
pearl at-the-ready space pozpig
  03/20/15
"The cost of your (necessary) vacation home apparently ...
mewling reading party associate
  03/20/15
and PHX is 1.4 and 800k, which is weird since the vacation h...
hideous histrionic stage sex offender
  03/20/15
That makes sense if the nearby vacation areas have different...
mewling reading party associate
  03/20/15
tbf i didn't actually look at that many, I just saw that the...
pearl at-the-ready space pozpig
  03/20/15
they explained that the vacation home was treated like a wee...
mind-boggling lemon cuckold nursing home
  03/20/15
I knew that when Birmingham, AL came out to $231k that I was...
Titillating school boistinker
  03/20/15
gas boomers now /thread
passionate multi-billionaire new version
  03/20/15
...
Coral theatre haunted graveyard
  03/21/15
You can live in NYC if just WANT it bad enough
excitant infuriating plaza laser beams
  03/25/15
"Our family has two very upscale cars; a sporty BMW 325...
massive motley institution knife
  03/20/15
UNDERRATED
excitant infuriating plaza laser beams
  03/25/15
...
fuchsia parlor
  03/25/15
wait, charleston wv is at 236k? i've driven through there a...
Glassy Odious Elastic Band
  03/24/15
Man, how to waste money. You can live exactly as well for so...
duck-like mexican chapel
  03/25/15
The people at that income level aren't spending their one tw...
Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/25/15
Sooooo everyone gets that these Forbes/CNN Money articles ar...
excitant infuriating plaza laser beams
  03/25/15
Where the hell did they get $26k for private school in NYC? ...
fuchsia parlor
  03/25/15
agreed
Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/25/15
Why isn't SF included in the list?
fuchsia parlor
  03/25/15


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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:00 PM
Author: mewling reading party associate

http://www.forbes.com/static_html/lifestyle/charts.shtml

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525840)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:02 PM
Author: pontificating gaping genital piercing

LOL at fucking New York City

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525859)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:04 PM
Author: Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap

The one that should stick out is Boston, as in, why would anyone choose Boston over NYC given the comparison in cities and costs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525868)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: honey-headed crackhouse

tbf any NYC metric is including the whole city (if not metro). the core of boston/cambridge is expensive but still not nearly as expensive as MFH

also, I believe they would chose it if their jerb is there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525883)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:08 PM
Author: Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap

Wha? This is for living well and is projecting a $3.9M home in NYC. I'm pretty sure they mean MFH or top neighborhoods in Brooklyn here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525894)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 9:11 PM
Author: geriatric aphrodisiac parlour

dem beans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27528016)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:12 AM
Author: fuchsia parlor

Boston suburbs >>> NYC suburbs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551997)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:15 AM
Author: Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap

we are in violent disagreement here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552015)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:05 PM
Author: mewling reading party associate

By the way, does that graphic load really slowly, line by line for anyone else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525877)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:06 PM
Author: Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap

They're just building DAT EXCITEMENT brother!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525880)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: Milky cuckoldry step-uncle's house

That's how Xo works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525885)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: mewling reading party associate

I suspect that's old.

Seattle is way down there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525886)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:35 PM
Author: vigorous harsh codepig dilemma

Yeah LOL at Seattle being cheaper than Houston.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526103)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: Trip frozen theater stage

Finally, this is exactly what I've been saying and everyone acted like I was being ridiculous. Living well requires like $500k/year in NYC and even $240k in a place like Birmingham, AL. All these "oh, you only need $50k/year to live well" posts are flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525891)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:09 PM
Author: Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap

"B-b-but I HAVE to live in the BERESFORD!", TMF lisped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525905)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: Trip frozen theater stage

If you want to live that lifestyle then even $500k isn't cutting it. That is a 7 figure plus salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525923)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: Underhanded Lime Trailer Park

some of those "expenses" are ridiculous. it includes 105k/yr for a vacation home for MFH. i don't think you need a vacation home to "live well"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525921)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: Trip frozen theater stage

a) I would adjust some of those in several directions. Good private schools also cost more than $26k/year, and college will cost more than $30k/year. And they're allotting only $5k/year for savings. And I wouldn't pay a 30 year mortgage if I could avoid it. Not sure how they factor in stuff like maintenance.

b) If you live in MFH, something like a vacation home (or similar money to spend renting vacation homes) is a necessity. Otherwise, the urban environment becomes stifling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525946)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:16 PM
Author: Underhanded Lime Trailer Park

nah you need vacation money, but not a HOME. most people don't have time for that anyway, they get 2-3 weeks off a year. better to travel somewhere new

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525957)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:19 PM
Author: Trip frozen theater stage

I'm not really quibbling with this (and you just described why I wouldn't buy one), but you generally want to be able to rent a nice place in something like the Hamptons for the summer and that will come out to quite a bit.

By the way, they're just describing post-tax expenses. So to earn that you need an almost million dollar salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525979)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:30 PM
Author: maniacal newt generalized bond

time shares are ridiculous, but for $55k/year, you could really live a sizable portion of the year in sweet places

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526056)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:11 PM
Author: Underhanded Lime Trailer Park

damn didn't know houston was seattle level expensive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525915)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:19 PM
Author: passionate multi-billionaire new version

It isn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525977)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:13 PM
Author: Charismatic flatulent ceo

how are they defining living well?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525927)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:22 PM
Author: mewling reading party associate

The explain it here:

http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/17/lifestyle-realestate-livingwell-cx_sc_0617home.html

http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/24/realestate-livingwell-south-cx_sc_0624home.html

http://www.forbes.com/2005/07/01/realestate-livingwell-midwest-cx_sc_0701home.html

http://www.forbes.com/2005/07/07/realestate-livingwell-west-cx_sc_0708home_ls.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526004)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:14 PM
Author: onyx faggotry hospital

LOL @ needing a 4mm Apt AND a 2mm vacation home for NYC to be "living well." You can find great apartments for way less $.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525943)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: soul-stirring striped hyena

LOL @ spending $400K to live in fucking Boston

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525970)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: mewling reading party associate

Index for cost of living EXTREMELY well.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottdecarlo/2013/09/18/cost-of-living-extremely-well-index-the-price-of-the-good-life/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525974)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap

DBG MAF that Forbes uses a clay court in their example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525988)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 10:48 PM
Author: Abnormal rigpig dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27528741)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 5:23 PM
Author: peach national security agency

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27548232)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: soul-stirring striped hyena

you're just throwing away money if you're spending $20K per year on cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27525986)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:24 PM
Author: mewling reading party associate

Bro, if you can't afford to live well, that's ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526016)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:24 PM
Author: soul-stirring striped hyena

isn't the whole point of having a $4M house that you don't have to pay $20K per year for private school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526013)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:27 PM
Author: free-loading indian lodge

no, thats the point of having a 786k house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526036)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 4:09 PM
Author: razzle candlestick maker

lol titcr. Although I'd replace house with "50-year-old shitbox."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526344)



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Date: March 21st, 2015 12:17 AM
Author: Violet electric church nibblets

Hahahahaha.

Hold on, let me catch my breath.

Hahahahaha.

The whole point of a $4M house is that you do pay $25-50K for private schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27529143)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:25 PM
Author: soul-stirring striped hyena

these numbers are post-tax. jesus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526022)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:28 PM
Author: pearl at-the-ready space pozpig

Well this is retarded.

The cost of your (necessary) vacation home apparently scales linearly with the cost of your actual home. You need a 4MM apt to live well and despite being in NYC your car costs don't go down.

Pretty tight little analysis they got going there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526046)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:54 PM
Author: mewling reading party associate

"The cost of your (necessary) vacation home apparently scales linearly with the cost of your actual home."

Why do you think that?

City - House - Vacation

Anchorage - $775k - $400k

Atlanta - $1.4 million - $1.6 million

Minneapolis - $1.2 million - $775k

Salt Lake - $775k - $800k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526263)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 4:01 PM
Author: hideous histrionic stage sex offender

and PHX is 1.4 and 800k, which is weird since the vacation home is half the ATL cost despite the primaries being similarly priced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526302)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 4:07 PM
Author: mewling reading party associate

That makes sense if the nearby vacation areas have different property values.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526333)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 4:17 PM
Author: pearl at-the-ready space pozpig

tbf i didn't actually look at that many, I just saw that there were huge differences in the price of vacation houses that made no sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526412)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 11:06 PM
Author: mind-boggling lemon cuckold nursing home

they explained that the vacation home was treated like a weekend getaway spot. so it makes sense that the primary and secondary residence prices correlate.

maybe that seems like a silly assumption but the whole thing is a silly exercise, more for entertainment value than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27528832)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:56 PM
Author: Titillating school boistinker

I knew that when Birmingham, AL came out to $231k that I was FUCKED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526278)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 3:57 PM
Author: passionate multi-billionaire new version

gas boomers now

/thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27526281)



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Date: March 21st, 2015 12:28 AM
Author: Coral theatre haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27529170)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 10:58 AM
Author: excitant infuriating plaza laser beams

You can live in NYC if just WANT it bad enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551919)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 10:45 PM
Author: massive motley institution knife

"Our family has two very upscale cars; a sporty BMW 325i sedan and a capacious Lexus RX 330"

lol...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27528725)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 10:56 AM
Author: excitant infuriating plaza laser beams

UNDERRATED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551913)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:21 AM
Author: fuchsia parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552038)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 5:42 PM
Author: Glassy Odious Elastic Band

wait, charleston wv is at 236k? i've driven through there and got the impression i'd live like the sultan of brunei on 75k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27548311)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 5:40 AM
Author: duck-like mexican chapel

Man, how to waste money. You can live exactly as well for so much less.

25% of your expenses on a vacation home?! Spending every vacation in the same shitbox in Fort Lauderdale has to be one of the most depressing things ever. My parents spend $0 on vacation and have a much better time of it - they rent their house out for $6k/month to cover costs and explore different cities around the world, often staying with friends in nice houses for free.

At that house price, just go to top public school.

Spending $30,000 every single year so your 7 children can go to Sarah Lawrence? Good call.

Of course it's really all about the housing, since that's 75% of the budget (probably not advised by most personal finance gurus).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551289)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 9:17 AM
Author: Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap

The people at that income level aren't spending their one two-week vacation every year at a Ft. Lauderdale condo. They will use that as a weekend getaway. To give a NYC example, it will be a house in the hamptons that they use during he summer, a home in VT for skiing every weekend in the winter, or a place in florida where they will spend a lot of the winter. Those people still usually take a nice real vacation or two in addition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551531)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 10:57 AM
Author: excitant infuriating plaza laser beams

Sooooo everyone gets that these Forbes/CNN Money articles are always entirely bullshit right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27551917)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:15 AM
Author: fuchsia parlor

Where the hell did they get $26k for private school in NYC? Try $45k for 1 kid. Living well = 3 kids, so $135k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552016)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:15 AM
Author: Laughsome Coiffed Rehab Mad-dog Skullcap

agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552018)



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Date: March 25th, 2015 11:19 AM
Author: fuchsia parlor

Why isn't SF included in the list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2834967&forum_id=2#27552032)