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are career coaches flame?

is it worth spending money on one? or will i just get the s...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
I've known several people who have become "career coach...
stimulating bearded field
  04/07/15
Cr. All "coaches" go to great lengths to disavow r...
dull son of senegal chad
  04/07/15
true...but at this point i'll take anything i can get...just...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
well if you're still interested in law obvi the former, if y...
thriller jet fortuitous meteor
  04/07/15
yea see link above...she 'specializes' in helping people get...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
looks like a fucking scam that's more geared towards how to ...
thriller jet fortuitous meteor
  04/07/15
yea but would be helpful to have professional support while ...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
your issue is you need someone to yell at you daily to get o...
thriller jet fortuitous meteor
  04/07/15
no def not...i have that internally i need real, practica...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
if you really don't know vs don't want to admit to it, ask e...
thriller jet fortuitous meteor
  04/07/15
yup i do all the time...guess its just a tough slog... u ...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
people at large companies who interview you and reject you a...
thriller jet fortuitous meteor
  04/07/15
yea i guess theyre afraid they may say x and ill construe it...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
Industry suffers from a 90/10 problem. Most "career co...
citrine bbw
  04/07/15
yea i mean, i dont necessarily need the michael jordan of ca...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
IMO, these industries tend to settle into bimodal distribs. ...
citrine bbw
  04/07/15
meh just seems like more homework
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
You're right. Go get a nice single malt.(*) * May increa...
citrine bbw
  04/07/15
ljl
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
have u ever used a coach? u seem knowledgeable...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
Yes. I use a council of twelve coaches at any given time. ...
citrine bbw
  04/07/15
why didnt i think of that
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
...
citrine bbw
  04/07/15
ask for references of clients they've helped, at least ch...
Lemon police squad
  04/07/15
What the career coach site you shared offers is approximatel...
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
tru that...wanna grab a beer sometime?
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
I'm not a good bro, but I like beer enough. When are you ...
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
like 2 years ago...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
How much do you have saved?
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
275
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
What is the lowest COL city you'd be willing to live in?
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
hanoi but also my current city is fairly low COL...if i s...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
Were there any other second choice careers you considered be...
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
tons (politics, film, journalism, teaching, activism, milita...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
I think lawyers make excellent teachers. Have you ever looke...
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
a little bit, like independent school sites...i dunno...gues...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
I get the sense that people who pay to have someone else gui...
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
yup...good points...and even maybe doing like 2-3 month doc ...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
The better coach would be a "quitting your job with con...
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
haha yea def
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
How does your GF feel about your job plans? Do you bitch abo...
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
she just wants me to be happy. i do. i think so.
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
also why u not a 'good bro' bro?
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
I was born with girl parts.
Excitant Infuriating Theater
  04/07/15
lol well still can offer counsel
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
No.
unhinged address international law enforcement agency
  04/07/15
no they aren't flame? have any experience?
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  04/07/15
...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  05/26/15
I got one and it has been the greatest decision of my life.
misanthropic background story indian lodge
  05/26/15
awesome. please explain
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  05/26/15
I was working law making $200k+ but stressed as fuck. I got ...
misanthropic background story indian lodge
  05/26/15
ugh dude that "before" dude is me...can you steer ...
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  05/26/15
...
Seedy candlestick maker
  05/26/15
No, I know a few people in this field and they can be really...
Supple Violent Messiness Foreskin
  05/26/15
any links to bros/chicas you'd recommend?
zippy lavender coldplay fan stage
  05/26/15


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Date: April 7th, 2015 9:07 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

is it worth spending money on one? or will i just get the same advice i get from xo for free?

http://www.thejdnation.com/i-am-done-being-a-lawyer/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27638595)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 10:13 AM
Author: stimulating bearded field

I've known several people who have become "career coaches" and they're all bullshitters who have flamed out of their real jobs. That said, there's no harm in going to a couple sessions - just don't pay them more than you want to part with, and don't get roped into months and months of their shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27638851)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 10:48 AM
Author: dull son of senegal chad

Cr. All "coaches" go to great lengths to disavow responsibility for any lack of results their advice delivers. Basically they blame you if your situation doesn't improve and take credit if it does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639105)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 10:52 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

true...but at this point i'll take anything i can get...just wanna choose wisely...

guess q is, should i go to someone like this who is specifically geared to big lolyers, or go to someone more general?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639126)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 10:58 AM
Author: thriller jet fortuitous meteor

well if you're still interested in law obvi the former, if you're looking to get out of law period maybe more general. also depends on what you're looking for here, professional resume critique, cover letter, interview critique vs. helping you choose directions (IDK that anyone can do that).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639162)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 10:59 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

yea see link above...she 'specializes' in helping people get out of law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639165)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:01 AM
Author: thriller jet fortuitous meteor

looks like a fucking scam that's more geared towards how to quit law vs. how to get into and pick the new thing.

it's really easy to quit. just send a resignation letter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639176)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:05 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

yea but would be helpful to have professional support while transitioning rather than just casting myself into the abyss of couch sitting, video game playing, job board lurking, potato chip eating unemployment

u have any other suggestions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639221)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:06 AM
Author: thriller jet fortuitous meteor

your issue is you need someone to yell at you daily to get off your ass?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639233)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:09 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

no def not...i have that internally

i need real, practical, constructive advice about what i'm doing right and what i'm doing wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639262)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:12 AM
Author: thriller jet fortuitous meteor

if you really don't know vs don't want to admit to it, ask ex coworkers/bosses, friends, people in new industry you're targeting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639296)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:14 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

yup i do all the time...guess its just a tough slog...

u think its credited to ask a HR manager who dings you if she can provide any feedback or is that stalker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639322)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:25 AM
Author: thriller jet fortuitous meteor

people at large companies who interview you and reject you are not going to give you honest negative feedback on why. they're generally not supposed to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639442)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:31 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

yea i guess theyre afraid they may say x and ill construe it as because ur y.

anyways im having trouble even getting interviews...usually i just dont hear anything back or get the form 'while you have amazing credentials' email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639518)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 10:57 AM
Author: citrine bbw

Industry suffers from a 90/10 problem. Most "career coaches" are bullshit artists. In any given market, there will be a few legitimate ones, typically down to an industry level of specificity (e.g., gurus for residency placement; gurus for legal placement). They are freaks--they've leveraged some combination of a network or teachable charisma or an uncanny intuition or superb writing skills to actually be good at what they do. If you're going into it blind, you're obviously unlikely to identify these people, unless you rely on some sort of proxy indicator like "booked for the next six months" or "able to sustain rates of $x00 per hour and has been established in the market for a decade." Even those are imperfect signs. Same spiel could be given for "recruiters."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639153)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 10:58 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

yea i mean, i dont necessarily need the michael jordan of career coaches...just someone to read my resume and provide some insight into why i cant snag any interviews etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639163)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:01 AM
Author: citrine bbw

IMO, these industries tend to settle into bimodal distribs. You're either with a Michael Jordan or you're with a ... Bill Wennington (#godblessbillwennington). Try for a combination of: (1) reliable word of mouth; (2) evidence of actual results (e.g., testimonials with actual names); (3) a proposed plan of attack involving actual work (e.g., the coach says 'we're going to do the following five tasks in the next two weeks' rather than saying 'we're going to talk about your spirit')

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639180)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:04 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

meh just seems like more homework

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639207)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:04 AM
Author: citrine bbw

You're right. Go get a nice single malt.(*)

* May increase your risk of certain esophageal cancers when consumed in large quantities over sustained periods of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639215)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:05 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639226)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:06 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

have u ever used a coach? u seem knowledgeable...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639230)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:06 AM
Author: citrine bbw

Yes. I use a council of twelve coaches at any given time. When one reaches the "age of ascension," his or her first born child will usually step into the role, thus continuing the tradition of discernment and considered guidance enabling us to operate the greatenterprise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639236)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:09 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

why didnt i think of that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639264)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:09 AM
Author: citrine bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639266)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:09 AM
Author: Lemon police squad

ask for references of clients they've helped,

at least check out the reference on linkin, see if they've gone from point A (somewhere roughly equivelant to where you are now) to point B (where you're hoping to go)

if you're feeling slightly less lazy, shoot them an email, ask if they felt career coach was worth their time and money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639267)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:11 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

What the career coach site you shared offers is approximately what a good bro with a solid head on his shoulders could offer over beer. The best medicine is talking to people who love what they do or at least like it most of the time and are doing well in other aspects of life (fitness, relationships, etc.)

All this really offers is perspective and assuredness that there are others out there finding pleasure in their work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639287)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:14 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

tru that...wanna grab a beer sometime?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639328)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:17 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

I'm not a good bro, but I like beer enough.

When are you thinking of leaving the law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639357)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:18 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

like 2 years ago...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639364)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:18 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

How much do you have saved?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639369)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:25 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

275

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639440)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:27 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

What is the lowest COL city you'd be willing to live in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639464)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:29 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

hanoi

but also my current city is fairly low COL...if i say no to a couple upcoming bachelor parties and only eat out when my parents are paying and cancel comcast, i could generally maintain my standard of living for about 25-30k a year, 35k max

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639497)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:36 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

Were there any other second choice careers you considered before pursuing law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639557)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:37 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

tons (politics, film, journalism, teaching, activism, military, history, agriculture)

thought law school would be a scholarly way of opening doors

i absolutely 100% was determined in no uncertain terms not to end up being a shill corporate bigloyler

for four years :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639568)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:42 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

I think lawyers make excellent teachers. Have you ever looked into it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639612)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:43 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

a little bit, like independent school sites...i dunno...guess i still wanna take a stab at doing my own thing before getting into the teacher groove...maybe in 5 years tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639616)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:46 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

I get the sense that people who pay to have someone else guide them aren't really paying for expertise as much as accountability/structure.

Maybe write out a 6 month, 1 yr, 3 yr, 5 yr plan for yourself -- what you visualize, and the steps you need to take to make it all happen. Honestly, if you want to roll on your own, and if you have decent writing skills, freelance work (that may not be particularly riveting, but can be decent-paying per project - not per word) could keep your finances coming in while getting you out of the toxicity of lawl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639639)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:48 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

yup...good points...and even maybe doing like 2-3 month doc review gigs...just make enough to not have to dip into savings, focus on moving things forward with my gf, getting into better shape, and working on side projects...

would be cr...just makes me cringe at the thought of going into my bosses office and telling him im done here...dont even know what to say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639655)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:50 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

The better coach would be a "quitting your job with confidence and dignity" coach.

I worked somewhere for seven years and when I finally quit, I nearly vomited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639669)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:52 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

haha yea def

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639681)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:53 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

How does your GF feel about your job plans? Do you bitch about work a lot? Do you want to marry her?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639691)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:54 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

she just wants me to be happy. i do. i think so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639698)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:38 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

also why u not a 'good bro' bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639579)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:39 AM
Author: Excitant Infuriating Theater

I was born with girl parts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639584)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 11:40 AM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

lol well still can offer counsel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27639595)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 4:14 PM
Author: unhinged address international law enforcement agency

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27641799)



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Date: April 7th, 2015 4:25 PM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

no they aren't flame? have any experience?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27641876)



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Date: May 26th, 2015 2:36 PM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27967311)



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Date: May 26th, 2015 4:57 PM
Author: misanthropic background story indian lodge

I got one and it has been the greatest decision of my life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27968231)



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Date: May 26th, 2015 4:58 PM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

awesome. please explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27968236)



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Date: May 26th, 2015 5:09 PM
Author: misanthropic background story indian lodge

I was working law making $200k+ but stressed as fuck. I got hooked up with the right people who helped me land a sweet $150k stress free 9-6 m-f gig. It was 180 all around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27968314)



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Date: May 26th, 2015 5:15 PM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

ugh dude that "before" dude is me...can you steer me towards a good career coach...maybe you have a link or something?...really need to make a change...fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27968344)



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Date: May 26th, 2015 6:46 PM
Author: Seedy candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27968989)



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Date: May 26th, 2015 5:25 PM
Author: Supple Violent Messiness Foreskin

No, I know a few people in this field and they can be really useful. Just introducing accountability into your life can be huge.

But the the above poaster is right that a lot of the life coaches are flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27968409)



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Date: May 26th, 2015 5:26 PM
Author: zippy lavender coldplay fan stage

any links to bros/chicas you'd recommend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2849221&forum_id=2#27968421)