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Hi. Entering from a 2yr clerkship to a BigLaw firm. Should ...
Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse
  06/13/15
You should consider whether your clerkship provides relevant...
multi-colored purple space bbw
  06/13/15
Yes, my federal clerkship is "relevant" to the pra...
Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse
  06/13/15
Yes, offer to come in as a 1st year. Then bow your head and...
Sooty idea he suggested school cafeteria
  06/13/15
go on...
Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse
  06/13/15
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Onyx Love Of Her Life Fortuitous Meteor
  02/12/16
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Sooty idea he suggested school cafeteria
  02/12/16
WTF is this question about??? You should demand that you ke...
floppy twinkling uncleanness
  06/14/15
Really? I don't know how this stuff works. Should I tell th...
Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse
  06/14/15
i actually see where youre coming from. yeah, there will be ...
Wonderful Crystalline Gaming Laptop
  06/14/15
cr, but I wonder if you don't get a clerkship bonus if you s...
Lake Forum Legal Warrant
  06/14/15
That's my thought. That's why I'd rather enter as a 1st yea...
Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse
  06/14/15
What was their initial offer? How long do you really want t...
Obsidian Flirting Fanboi
  06/14/15
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Onyx Love Of Her Life Fortuitous Meteor
  02/12/16
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razzle volcanic crater
  02/12/16
Lol, OP. How is LSAT prep going? You enter as a third-year...
Onyx Love Of Her Life Fortuitous Meteor
  02/12/16
Most biglaw firms have a policy on this. That being said, I...
Curious tattoo
  02/12/16


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Date: June 13th, 2015 12:18 PM
Author: Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse

Hi. Entering from a 2yr clerkship to a BigLaw firm. Should I ask them to start me as a 1st, not 2nd or 3rd year, associate. I'm happy to take the initial salary hit if it means I can stay at the firm longer before I get pushed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28109576)



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Date: June 13th, 2015 3:38 PM
Author: multi-colored purple space bbw

You should consider whether your clerkship provides relevant experience (e.g. in litigation) to the job you will be taking. Most firms give a 1 year longevity bump for a federal clerkship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28110762)



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Date: June 13th, 2015 4:58 PM
Author: Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse

Yes, my federal clerkship is "relevant" to the practice group I will be joining. But, playing at the courthouse and working at a lawfirm just seem so dissimilar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28111266)



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Date: June 13th, 2015 12:19 PM
Author: Sooty idea he suggested school cafeteria

Yes, offer to come in as a 1st year. Then bow your head and say "Thank."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28109580)



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Date: June 13th, 2015 4:59 PM
Author: Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse

go on...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28111270)



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Date: February 12th, 2016 2:15 PM
Author: Onyx Love Of Her Life Fortuitous Meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#29813120)



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Date: February 12th, 2016 2:19 PM
Author: Sooty idea he suggested school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#29813145)



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Date: June 14th, 2015 1:40 AM
Author: floppy twinkling uncleanness

WTF is this question about??? You should demand that you keep your seniority as a condition of starting at your firm; otherwise, you will look elsewhere.

I'm assuming from the premise of your question that you do not plan to stay in Biglaw long-term. The average person stays for 3-4 years, so you'd be cutting out as very valuable 5-6 year associate rather than a less valuable 3-4 year.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28114425)



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Date: June 14th, 2015 12:34 PM
Author: Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse

Really? I don't know how this stuff works. Should I tell them I have to come in as a third-year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28116161)



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Date: June 14th, 2015 12:35 PM
Author: Wonderful Crystalline Gaming Laptop

i actually see where youre coming from. yeah, there will be a lot of pressure to perform straight away if you come in as a third year. would be easier to come in as a first year. still asking for a demotion is prob not the impression you want to make

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28116165)



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Date: June 14th, 2015 12:38 PM
Author: Lake Forum Legal Warrant

cr, but I wonder if you don't get a clerkship bonus if you start as a first-year

also you're definitely behind the ball as a 3d year unless you're a fucking alpha. 3d years have reputations with partners, occasionally with clients, can navigate well, etc. You're basically like a 1st year who knows a judge really well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28116184)



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Date: June 14th, 2015 12:43 PM
Author: Excitant Walnut Meetinghouse

That's my thought. That's why I'd rather enter as a 1st year. But, I do understand that asking for a demotion is a terrible first impression. If I enter as a second year, I do still receive a bonus. I think perhaps that will be the best bet.

I appreciate everyone's help! Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28116205)



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Date: June 14th, 2015 6:14 PM
Author: Obsidian Flirting Fanboi

What was their initial offer? How long do you really want to stay at the firm? I have only ever heard of people asking to be bumped up. I've never heard of ASKING to get bumped down, only getting bumped down if prior experience wasn't relevant or if there were performance issues once at firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#28118050)



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Date: February 12th, 2016 2:15 PM
Author: Onyx Love Of Her Life Fortuitous Meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#29813123)



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Date: February 12th, 2016 2:11 PM
Author: razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#29813079)



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Date: February 12th, 2016 2:15 PM
Author: Onyx Love Of Her Life Fortuitous Meteor

Lol, OP. How is LSAT prep going? You enter as a third-year or a second-year and this is negotiated in advance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#29813114)



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Date: February 12th, 2016 2:15 PM
Author: Curious tattoo

Most biglaw firms have a policy on this. That being said, I wouldn't enter as anything less than a 2nd. You've already missed out on two years of prime earning potential, why put yourself farther down on the payscale/partnership track (even if you really don't think you'll make partner, you never know).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2907341&forum_id=2#29813125)