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ADHD & Adderall apologists: Did it improve your grades, work, life?

For starters, check out the graphs at the top of this: ht...
lime tanning salon
  06/20/15
different people react to drugs differently, man.
Primrose yapping messiness school
  06/20/15
Oh, what a coherent "science"! I forgot that A...
lime tanning salon
  06/20/15
that's not what i'm saying lieutenant dipshit. amphetamines ...
Primrose yapping messiness school
  06/20/15
Describe the "scatterbrain" effect
lime tanning salon
  06/20/15
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  06/22/15
addy only does one thing for me: make me weirdly nice, like ...
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  06/20/15
That is, it "paradoxically" increases your impulsi...
lime tanning salon
  06/20/15
(bro who has written 5,000 words today on how ADHD is bullsh...
galvanic flickering people who are hurt home
  06/20/15
Copied & pasted from a back and forth, spontaneous FB co...
lime tanning salon
  06/20/15
god you sound like a real faggot
galvanic flickering people who are hurt home
  06/20/15
(chill bro having 20 paragraph adderall discussions on FB)
galvanic flickering people who are hurt home
  06/20/15
...
sickened personal credit line
  06/23/15
a certain "chill" kind of ADHD screed
Chocolate community account station
  06/20/15
I took adderall everyday throughout 1L year. It undoubtedly ...
Stimulating laser beams
  06/20/15
The 6hrs reading Wikipedia instead of working: how did you a...
lime tanning salon
  06/20/15
When I took it every day I was able to learn to Use it very ...
Stimulating laser beams
  06/20/15
Re acing LS exams: So you didnt get tunnel vision thinking a...
lime tanning salon
  06/20/15
1. No that didn't happen at all. There is a thing called do...
Stimulating laser beams
  06/21/15
A doc RXed it to me as well but I invariably took LESS than ...
lime tanning salon
  06/21/15
Maybe you have a weak constitution. Seriously just sack the ...
Sinister Motley Locale Headpube
  06/21/15
I'm in the "ADHD is a fraud" camp. See my other th...
lime tanning salon
  06/21/15
Yes, and I have no problem public ally marginalizing that me...
Sinister Motley Locale Headpube
  06/24/15
yes yes
autistic pisswyrm fanboi
  06/20/15
Where's the 3rd yes?
lime tanning salon
  06/20/15
Yes
slimy bronze office hissy fit
  06/20/15
I used ritalin. I didn't really find it effective. It did im...
Mischievous violent university giraffe
  06/21/15
Did it hurt you on timed exams requiring complex thinking (e...
lime tanning salon
  06/22/15
ever try switching to Adderall?
sickened personal credit line
  07/04/15
Yes it did
twinkling point weed whacker
  06/22/15
...
sickened personal credit line
  06/24/15
yes
Chocolate community account station
  06/22/15
Uniformly? No cognitive drawbacks?
sickened personal credit line
  07/01/15
It certainly makes my job easier
painfully honest roommate becky
  07/04/15
yes
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  01/24/16
Yes, it was amazing
Cerebral crotch half-breed
  01/24/16
short term it was fucking amazing long term i know i'm fukt...
beta jet-lagged goal in life candlestick maker
  01/24/16
For posterity: OP is DVP. I remember this thread when it fir...
Diverse tank spot
  06/23/17
whoa!
soul-stirring high-end mad-dog skullcap
  06/23/17
ADD/ADHD is still effectively not real
Crystalline Rigor Location
  06/23/17
Duh, six pack abs, HYS, drive to get out of law, can drink A...
Rough-skinned chapel
  06/23/17


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Date: June 20th, 2015 2:32 AM
Author: lime tanning salon

For starters, check out the graphs at the top of this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerkes–Dodson_law

Even in the web of fraud&lies (err, "science") that is ADHD, we have the IRON LAW of diminishing returns to arousal, then negative returns.

Whether you took it during finals only, before a big brief, or daily, can you honestly say they turned you from a B performer to an A student?

Because the actual science shows that the typical user is a rabid procrastinator who gets Bs but would've otherwise gotten Cs. For them, it's the difference between churning out 30pgs of mumble jumble vs turning in nothing.

But on time-restricted, cognitively demanding tasks (eg LSAT, 3hr law school exams), it pushes your natural game day adrenaline and anxiety overboard right into the negative returns phase, where you write the FUCK out of your current train of thought, which you think brilliant in the moment but is actually incoherent. Then you run out of time to answer the last 3rd of the test/task, much less edit your initial spew of nonsense.

If it did unequivocally improve your performance in one area of your life, you'd still be on it. Might as well devote a lifetime to it.

So, how do you discontinue it without turning into a listless puddle who never leaves his basement or experiences meaningful human contact?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163238)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 2:37 AM
Author: Primrose yapping messiness school

different people react to drugs differently, man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163259)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 2:41 AM
Author: lime tanning salon

Oh, what a coherent "science"!

I forgot that Adderall can have the "paradoxical" (ie, totally inexplicable) effect of "calming" actual ADHD-havers!

It magically "treats" ADHD concurrently with its "comorbid" disorders, anxiety and depression!

Shouldn't benzos & SSRIs be out of business?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163272)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 3:07 AM
Author: Primrose yapping messiness school

that's not what i'm saying lieutenant dipshit. amphetamines are powerful drugs and it's unpredictable as to how any individual will react (even if you can predict trends for a population). some people may get the perk of added focus while feeling less of the "scatterbrain" side effect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163303)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 11:15 AM
Author: lime tanning salon

Describe the "scatterbrain" effect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28164128)



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Date: June 22nd, 2015 7:30 PM
Author: sickened personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28179842)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 2:38 AM
Author: glittery stag film boiling water

addy only does one thing for me: make me weirdly nice, like ill tell my wife i love her every 20 minutes or email a random coworker about how i enjoy working with them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163260)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 2:43 AM
Author: lime tanning salon

That is, it "paradoxically" increases your impulsivity, when it's supposed to "treat" it.

So why take it, man?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163274)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 3:33 AM
Author: galvanic flickering people who are hurt home

(bro who has written 5,000 words today on how ADHD is bullshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163331)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 4:36 AM
Author: lime tanning salon

Copied & pasted from a back and forth, spontaneous FB convo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163535)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 4:38 AM
Author: galvanic flickering people who are hurt home

god you sound like a real faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163545)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 11:17 AM
Author: galvanic flickering people who are hurt home

(chill bro having 20 paragraph adderall discussions on FB)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28164135)



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Date: June 23rd, 2015 12:22 PM
Author: sickened personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28184379)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 4:37 AM
Author: Chocolate community account station

a certain "chill" kind of ADHD screed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28163541)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 11:57 AM
Author: Stimulating laser beams

I took adderall everyday throughout 1L year. It undoubtedly improved my concentration and performance. I was in the top 5% of my class 1L year and I wrote onto law review. However there were some definite side effects: I was noticeably meaner to my girlfriend (would scream at her when she interrupted my studying) and I was easily distracted by non-schoolwork related things (I could go off on a tangent and spend 6 hours reading about history on Wikipedia when I was supposed to be working). I was able to cut out the distractions mainly by going to a library without wifi internet when I was studying. I stopped taking it after 1L year BC I figured my law school grades didn't really matter at that point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28164392)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 12:07 PM
Author: lime tanning salon

The 6hrs reading Wikipedia instead of working: how did you avoid duplicating that on eg a 3hr exam where you spend 2hrs writing "XO scholarship" instead of actually answering the question? Then you only have 1hr left to answer the actual question?

Or, on the L Rev competition: How did you avoid getting suckered in reading forever about scholarship and not actually writing anything?

So you only took it your 1L year, and not before or since? How'd you quit so easily after 1yr of daily use? Did you just stop going to the doc for refills?

After you quit, did you turn into a useless, lazy sack of shit for your 1L summer job & 2L Fall?

And why havent you gotten back on in your biglaw job and top the associates' billing chart?

So you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28164428)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 1:16 PM
Author: Stimulating laser beams

When I took it every day I was able to learn to Use it very effectively I had no problem acing law school exams with it. I also didn't find it addictive at all, to answer your other question. When you first take adderall there is a euphoric effect, but that goes away after the first few times. I didn't use caffeine at all while on it and when I stopped taking it I just switched back to caffeine. I didn't have any urges to take the addy again or anything. Actually, it was kinda of nice to be off it: I felt more creative, impulsive, spontaneous, etc. I actually think I am better at my biglaw job at critical thinking and writing without addy than I would be on it. Now doc review is another story (addy would help great with that), but I've never found it necessary to use addy at work. It's not the same sort of pressure cooker of competition that law school was and I really haven't had to do that much grunt work at the firm over the last few years. One thing to note is that decongestants like Claritin D have a very similar effect to adderal. I did take that a few days during 24 hour work sessions when we were in trial (to stay awake).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28164782)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 6:51 PM
Author: lime tanning salon

Re acing LS exams: So you didnt get tunnel vision thinking and write completely irrelevant paragraphs, only realizing that you're running out of time when it's too late?

And what euphoria are you talking about? You mean the optimistic, "I can do this," on top of the world feeling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28166836)



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Date: June 21st, 2015 2:10 AM
Author: Stimulating laser beams

1. No that didn't happen at all. There is a thing called dosage. Your doctor will prescribe you the right dose for your body weights so things like that don't happen. It's an RX medication, not some street drug sold to you by Darnell.

2. Yes. It only happens the first time you take it though, or if you take it after having not taken it for a long time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28169435)



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Date: June 21st, 2015 10:00 PM
Author: lime tanning salon

A doc RXed it to me as well but I invariably took LESS than prescribed on most days...except before exams, when I more or less scaled up to my "prescribed" dose.

The tunnel vision/scatterbrain effect happens at RX doses too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28173983)



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Date: June 21st, 2015 10:27 PM
Author: Sinister Motley Locale Headpube

Maybe you have a weak constitution. Seriously just sack the fuck up. Unbelievable bitching.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28174217)



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Date: June 21st, 2015 11:29 PM
Author: lime tanning salon

I'm in the "ADHD is a fraud" camp. See my other thread.

But do you realize that if you were to tell a millenial convinced that he has ADHD that he just has a weak constitution and needs to suck it up, you'd be slammed with "marginalization of a mental illness"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28174621)



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Date: June 24th, 2015 11:27 PM
Author: Sinister Motley Locale Headpube

Yes, and I have no problem public ally marginalizing that mental "illness"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28195122)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 12:00 PM
Author: autistic pisswyrm fanboi

yes yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28164397)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 10:30 PM
Author: lime tanning salon

Where's the 3rd yes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28167990)



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Date: June 20th, 2015 7:48 PM
Author: slimy bronze office hissy fit

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28167100)



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Date: June 21st, 2015 2:17 AM
Author: Mischievous violent university giraffe

I used ritalin. I didn't really find it effective. It did improve my concentration, but the thing is, I just concentrated harder on videogames and XO and shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28169457)



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Date: June 22nd, 2015 3:00 PM
Author: lime tanning salon

Did it hurt you on timed exams requiring complex thinking (eg LS exams)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28177955)



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Date: July 4th, 2015 5:03 PM
Author: sickened personal credit line

ever try switching to Adderall?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28257868)



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Date: June 22nd, 2015 12:20 AM
Author: twinkling point weed whacker

Yes it did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28174916)



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Date: June 24th, 2015 7:35 PM
Author: sickened personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28193672)



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Date: June 22nd, 2015 7:30 PM
Author: Chocolate community account station

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28179846)



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Date: July 1st, 2015 8:35 PM
Author: sickened personal credit line

Uniformly? No cognitive drawbacks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28241166)



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Date: July 4th, 2015 5:12 PM
Author: painfully honest roommate becky

It certainly makes my job easier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#28257903)



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Date: January 24th, 2016 1:10 PM
Author: apoplectic obsidian genital piercing kitchen

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#29668099)



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Date: January 24th, 2016 1:19 PM
Author: Cerebral crotch half-breed

Yes, it was amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#29668162)



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Date: January 24th, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: beta jet-lagged goal in life candlestick maker

short term it was fucking amazing

long term i know i'm fukt 4 lyfe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#29668205)



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Date: June 23rd, 2017 1:45 AM
Author: Diverse tank spot

For posterity: OP is DVP. I remember this thread when it first appeared. It was around the time he was going crazy and threatening to sue the board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#33622923)



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Date: June 23rd, 2017 7:23 AM
Author: soul-stirring high-end mad-dog skullcap

whoa!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#33623433)



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Date: June 23rd, 2017 1:49 PM
Author: Crystalline Rigor Location

ADD/ADHD is still effectively not real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#33625561)



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Date: June 23rd, 2017 1:47 PM
Author: Rough-skinned chapel

Duh, six pack abs, HYS, drive to get out of law, can drink ANYONE under the table

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2914302&forum_id=2#33625539)