\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

First non-controversial Republican with this platform will transform country

Anyone with a brain knows that if Republicans want to be rel...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Completely agree brother
stirring insanely creepy location dopamine
  06/24/16
If they could get like Colin Powell or Jon Huntsman or maybe...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Was literally thinking this the other day - that it's not tr...
stirring insanely creepy location dopamine
  06/25/16
naw, we don't need you--trump will do a series of debates wi...
Cerebral hilarious jewess feces
  06/24/16
Please 180
Light dead codepig
  06/25/16
So your solution is to essentially run on a Democrat platfor...
Flushed persian gas station
  06/25/16
but trump is rich enough to not need donors....other candida...
Cerebral hilarious jewess feces
  06/25/16
nah. 1.) is basically impossible for the republicans. an...
Fuchsia hairless spot
  06/24/16
6) Stop blaming the media. As it relates #1, that's why t...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
lol bro do you even read anything libs ever write? "Mak...
mentally impaired ocher cumskin
  06/24/16
I'm not talking about appealing to liberals. I'm talking abo...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Trump could've started his campaign by saying, I want to mak...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
You cannot oppose immigration in any way in 2016 without bei...
mentally impaired ocher cumskin
  06/24/16
I disagree. I've never seen a Republican talk about immigrat...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
OK, enforcing immigration laws is good because blacks are be...
flickering azure multi-billionaire
  06/24/16
Try this... Enforcing immigration laws is good because it...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
But the illegals pulling this crap are targeting black neigh...
flickering azure multi-billionaire
  06/24/16
When you say that, it makes you sound like all black people ...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
This isn't just an inner city issue. It is now taking over t...
flickering azure multi-billionaire
  06/24/16
I agree, but you can talk about that without talking about r...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
About half, or more, of the illegals are not Mexican. You ca...
flickering azure multi-billionaire
  06/24/16
"llegal immigrants and their children are involved in n...
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
"Enforcing immigration laws is good because it'll slow ...
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
Its fucked up because there's too many people and not enough...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Essentially the position would be: Former industrial hub...
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
That's the truth of the position, but not how it should be p...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
...which nobody will take serious because the Gov't hasn't d...
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
government expenditures to the inner city have risen. Take B...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
are you suggesting that the media/academia are not huge asse...
Fuchsia hairless spot
  06/24/16
As long as that's your position on immigration, you'll never...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
why are minority CITIZENS going to feel singled out by restr...
Fuchsia hairless spot
  06/24/16
When you start talking about "certain sects of people&q...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
"The problem is immigration, not the people who are imm...
Fuchsia hairless spot
  06/24/16
Bro, this isn't going to appeal to Black people. Sorry to bu...
haunting market
  06/24/16
I think it would. There's an underlying tension in the black...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
how did rand paul's groveling "detroit republican"...
histrionic zippy brethren genital piercing
  06/24/16
It didn't work because it was perceived as disingenuous. Sup...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Blacks are not going to vote for any limited govt platform, ...
Concupiscible burgundy abode
  06/24/16
I agree. That's why you should talk about efficient governme...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Bro everyone would see through efficient govt flame and real...
Concupiscible burgundy abode
  06/24/16
Not if you back it up with actual policy positions. Like, fo...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Lol. How do you think they make shit "more efficient&qu...
Floppy Friendly Grandma
  06/25/16
This is true.
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
(Guy who has never met a black person)
haunting market
  06/24/16
Non white here. Number 3 alone is why not voting Trump. The...
Dark useless heaven
  06/24/16
CR
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
You'll never get racism out of the electorate, honestly. But...
alcoholic house
  06/24/16
Yes and I would 100% vote for that guy.
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
nice, I'd prefer that guy over Trump too especially so I cou...
alcoholic house
  06/24/16
As it relates to the voting bloc. The candidate needs to con...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
That guy was called Ronald Reagan and he/his strategists wer...
carmine idea he suggested
  06/24/16
Did RR oppose immigration and global capitalism?
alcoholic house
  06/24/16
cr
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
If you don't like living with white people, why do you stay ...
Light dead codepig
  06/25/16
funny, I have a similar analysis until the very last step. ...
High-end Dilemma Striped Hyena
  06/25/16
Dude, you're decribing Jon Huntsman to a key (except he is M...
spectacular mustard home
  06/24/16
Uh, because he is a cuck In June 2007, Huntsman joined ot...
mentally impaired ocher cumskin
  06/24/16
"Huntsman suggested that the country needed more legal ...
Fuchsia hairless spot
  06/24/16
that guy is a fucking cuck and wouldn't have gotten 10% of t...
Floppy Friendly Grandma
  06/24/16
minorities vote dem mainly for economic reasons, not because...
histrionic zippy brethren genital piercing
  06/24/16
I'm black and I disagree. Republican are perceived as racist...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
That's just icing on the cake.
Concupiscible burgundy abode
  06/24/16
how many blacks voted for dole/kemp? jack kemp was a former...
histrionic zippy brethren genital piercing
  06/24/16
Black people don't want a "black people lover," th...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
yea, 90%+ of blacks have the same economic interests
Floppy Friendly Grandma
  06/24/16
i would also add, supporting a national living wage for law ...
Irradiated mad cow disease digit ratio
  06/24/16
Rand Paul did everything he could to appeal to blacks and go...
Sexy Den
  06/24/16
He didn't stop the local government flame. The libertarian i...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Very true. Part of that is because he didn't have the su...
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Nah, but thanks for the suggestions.
flickering azure multi-billionaire
  06/24/16
CR. OP is a retard
Bateful casino
  06/24/16
(XO2015) thanks for the insight.
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Why would I waste my time explaining why you're a retard whe...
Bateful casino
  06/24/16
This seems like a moderate Dem. platform.
irate parlor
  06/24/16
I was actually going to say basically Obama without all the ...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
So, the first to adopt SHITLIB agenda? Got it
buck-toothed beady-eyed national security agency
  06/24/16
what about what I just said is shitlib? From a historical pe...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
Ur an idiot. Ur entire argument is that to win, republicans ...
buck-toothed beady-eyed national security agency
  06/24/16
No, my argument is that to win, Republicans need to run a no...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
...
tan goal in life boltzmann
  03/18/18
If you took out his "controversial" statements, th...
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
Are you arguing for the OP or me
buck-toothed beady-eyed national security agency
  06/24/16
Bro, none of that's shitlib.
mildly autistic vigorous mediation
  06/24/16
i'm always amazed when JJC gets so many people to respond to...
Vengeful Excitant Milk School
  06/24/16
These could all probably be done. I personally disagree wit...
mildly autistic vigorous mediation
  06/24/16
These are good points and I agree with the reason regarding ...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
We get it. You are Oriental.
Light dead codepig
  06/25/16
"and a lot of politicians don't want to condemn it too ...
Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office
  06/24/16
This has been standard operating procedure for the GOP at le...
mildly autistic vigorous mediation
  06/24/16
Credited analysis.
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
go fuck yourself JJC. seriously go fuck yourself.
Floppy Friendly Grandma
  06/24/16
...
Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig
  06/24/16
To be successful, the GOP needs a singular, resonant message...
autistic police squad state
  06/24/16
I like it.
yapping cruise ship potus
  06/24/16
Explain your criminal justice reform.
Light dead codepig
  06/25/16
Nobody is in favor of local governments. What are you smoki...
Light dead codepig
  06/25/16


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 3:32 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

Anyone with a brain knows that if Republicans want to be relevant nationally going forward, they need to appeal to minorities. The question is, how do they do this without alienating white people (meaning amnesty, cough cough Rubio, ain't the answer). As a minority dude who would love to vote for Trump but for believing he's a manic, below is what I think a Republican could get black people to buy into.

1) The candidate needs to be non-controversial. Someone like Mitt Romney but not a Mormon.

2) Stop the local government flame. Local government has never been good for minorities and the federal government has always been the white knight. Emphasize EFFICIENT government, not small/local government.

3) Talk about enforcing immigration laws and the border, without tying it to Mexicans/Muslims. Like it our not, you/Trump/Sheriff Joe sounds like a racist. This means border security and deporting people when they are picked up, not SS style round up squads.

4) Stop making issues of non issues at the state level (tranny laws). You look better defending the status qua than being the asshole pushing perceived discriminatory legislation.

5) Push for lower and middle class tax cuts. Fuck rich people. Like literally, fuck them over with the tax code.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783355)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 3:36 PM
Author: stirring insanely creepy location dopamine

Completely agree brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783376)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 3:42 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

If they could get like Colin Powell or Jon Huntsman or maybe even Kasich to re-package Trumps ideas, they could have a Reagan style revolution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783416)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 12:24 AM
Author: stirring insanely creepy location dopamine

Was literally thinking this the other day - that it's not trump's crudeness or un-pc-ness that's appealing to people - it's his policies of secure borders, common sense nationalism, and pro-native trade policies.

So I completely agree if you took a candidate with a lot of charisma, no controversial background, no "racist" comments ever etc., good political skills etc. and sold the ideas in your OP it would be a landslide election.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786649)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 10:46 PM
Author: Cerebral hilarious jewess feces

naw, we don't need you--trump will do a series of debates with jill stein of the green party and gary johnson of the libertarian party, and that will allow them to take some votes from hillary, allowing trump the win

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786193)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 12:35 AM
Author: Light dead codepig

Please 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786699)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 1:34 AM
Author: Flushed persian gas station

So your solution is to essentially run on a Democrat platform?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30787044)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 6:53 AM
Author: Cerebral hilarious jewess feces

but trump is rich enough to not need donors....other candidates WILL need donors...and will therefore have to conform to the tenets of global capitalism...trump raised his profile via controvery and conflict...other GOP candidates cannot do that because they need donors...

trump is the man...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30787516)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 3:57 PM
Author: Fuchsia hairless spot

nah.

1.) is basically impossible for the republicans. any candidate they trot out will be made controversial by a highly partisan media/academia apparatus completely in the tank for the dems.

2.) dems would easily parry this—"we know big government better than the gopfags because we haven't been trying to demolish it for decades. trust us to make it more efficient". plus, the media/academia complex would just frame efficient government as racist/sexist dog-whistling and say the gop can't be trusted.

3.) so basically have a non-confrontational, anodyne stance on one of the most pressing issues of are time that ensures absolutely nothing is done and the shitty status quo marches on. hehe.

4.) they look like assholes because their actions are so framed by a hostile culture industry.

5.) this is actually credited, but the second to last thing gopfaggot politicians will ever cave on (first being wars for are greatest ally). they love their jerb creators too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783522)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:03 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

6) Stop blaming the media.

As it relates #1, that's why the need someone unassailable. McCain would have worked if he wasn't running against Obama and didn't pick Palin.

As it relates to 3, making the issue immigration instead of actual people should not be "non-controversial." If you want it the other way around, you're an actual racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783554)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: mentally impaired ocher cumskin

lol bro do you even read anything libs ever write? "Making the issue immigration instead of actual people" means you're a crypto-racist dogwhistler who is only anti-immigration because most of them are nonwhites. There is no such thing as an "unassailable" candidate to advance reasonably conservative positions because libs assail the positions as racist/sexist/whatever and then tie those same attacks to the candidate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783563)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:09 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

I'm not talking about appealing to liberals. I'm talking about appealing to black people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783601)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:12 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

Trump could've started his campaign by saying, I want to make America great for the people all ready here. Until we fix (income inequality, eroding manu base, entitlements, unemployment, etc.), we need to freeze immigration from everywhere.

Instead, MEXICANS ARE RAPIST!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783615)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:15 PM
Author: mentally impaired ocher cumskin

You cannot oppose immigration in any way in 2016 without being labeled a racist. If you disagree, take a look at any NYT editorial on the subject within the past 15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783631)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:17 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

I disagree. I've never seen a Republican talk about immigration without tying it to Mexicans, welfare, religion, speaking English, crime, etc.

Stop talking about why immigration is bad and start talking about why enforcing immigration laws is good for the people already here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783641)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:31 PM
Author: flickering azure multi-billionaire

OK, enforcing immigration laws is good because blacks are being chased at gunpoint out of their historic neighborhoods throughout southern California. And North Carolina. And Georgia. And Texas. This is being allowed to happen on purpose by white liberals who do not respect you.

Enforcing immigration laws is also good because US citizens are dying due to a heroin epidemic that is sweeping over the entire country. Every single law enforcement officer can tell you exactly where this garbage is coming from.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783716)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:33 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

Try this...

Enforcing immigration laws is good because it'll slow the flood of immigrants into inner cities, which leaves more money and resources for the current residents of those neighborhoods. Less crowded schools, better public transportation, more housing.

See how I didn't mention race at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783728)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:35 PM
Author: flickering azure multi-billionaire

But the illegals pulling this crap are targeting black neighborhoods. They are abusing programs that black voters fought to have implemented. Illegal immigrants and their children are involved in numerous hate crimes against blacks.

This is happening in the rural and suburban south, too, not just inner cities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783733)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:36 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

When you say that, it makes you sound like all black people care about is welfare etc etc. Just don't mention race asshole. Why is that so difficult to understand? Talk about the issue. If someone brings up race, just say, "I'm talking about inner city problems, regardless of the race of the person encountering those problems."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783741)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:38 PM
Author: flickering azure multi-billionaire

This isn't just an inner city issue. It is now taking over the entire country. Black voters support a variety of programs other than just welfare cash transfer payments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783746)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:40 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

I agree, but you can talk about that without talking about race or singling out "illegals" which we all know is code for Mexicans. Just say that immigration is bad for the country. Here's why...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783759)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:51 PM
Author: flickering azure multi-billionaire

About half, or more, of the illegals are not Mexican. You can also think immigration is just fine and cut the legal allowed level anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783834)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:53 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

"llegal immigrants and their children are involved in numerous hate crimes against blacks."

Please stop pushing this flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783841)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:52 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

"Enforcing immigration laws is good because it'll slow the flood of immigrants into inner cities, which leaves more money and resources for the current residents of those neighborhoods. Less crowded schools, better public transportation, more housing."

Nobody who actually LIVES in inner cities will believe this because you are making it sound like the immigrants are the REASON inner cities are shitty in the first place.

You are opening yourself to a whole new host of arguments because you don't know WHY the inner city is FUCKED UP in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783839)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:59 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

Its fucked up because there's too many people and not enough resources. The solution is less people and more resources. The race of those excess people doesn't matter. For some reason, Republicans want to harp on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783869)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:01 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

Essentially the position would be:

Former industrial hubs like Detroit and Flint wouldn't be so shitty if we had less illegals in them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783883)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:03 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

That's the truth of the position, but not how it should be presented.

Its presented as..."Let's make these places better for the people already here before we start bringing in more people."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783897)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

...which nobody will take serious because the Gov't hasn't done enough to make them "better" in the past 30 years.

So how is immigration reform supposed to helpe "revitalize" Flint, Michigan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783906)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:11 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

government expenditures to the inner city have risen. Take Baltimore for example. The issue is efficiency of the use of that money. You'll get more efficient use if you have less people.

"Part of the problem, unsurprisingly, is that the city does not make very good use of the money it receives."

http://www.newsweek.com/baltimore-burning-its-not-matter-money-we-tried-329515

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783944)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:17 PM
Author: Fuchsia hairless spot

are you suggesting that the media/academia are not huge assets for the dems due to their strong ideological biases (see haidt's work on the subject)? to ignore this fact would be absurd from a dispassionate, strategy-oriented viewpoint. it's simply something the gopd00ds have to deal with.

also i disagree that mccain was unassailable or that obama was a particularly strong candidate. there was plenty of dirt on mccain and the chattering classes portrayed him as a senile warmonger that would bring in 4 more years of bu$$$hitler. dubya's shitty legacy meant that an empty suit could have won on the democratic ticket—and one did!

and as far as immigration goes, at some point a sane migration policy is going to have to confront the issue that certain sets of people (be they socio-economic classes or cultural groups) have little place in the united states. if this is racist, then so be it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783639)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:20 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

As long as that's your position on immigration, you'll never win over minorities. As most minorities don't fit the statistics that support your position and thus they'll feel unjustly singled out. Yeah, latinos might be more inclined to be on welfare etc etc, but I bet more AREN'T, than are. So the question is, how do you appeal to those who arent? It sure ain't by making sweeping generalizations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783654)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:36 PM
Author: Fuchsia hairless spot

why are minority CITIZENS going to feel singled out by restrictions on who can come into this country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783742)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:39 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

When you start talking about "certain sects of people" it just brings up the undertones of the generalizations that whites have made about blacks/latinos forever. People don't want to be treated as a monolith and they'll resist any policy based on treating other people as a monolith. Just address their issues without making sweeping racial generalizations. The problem is immigration, not the people who are immigrating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783750)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:42 PM
Author: Fuchsia hairless spot

"The problem is immigration, not the people who are immigrating."

yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783773)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: haunting market

Bro, this isn't going to appeal to Black people. Sorry to burst your bubble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783565)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:09 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

I think it would. There's an underlying tension in the black community with the democratic party. By and large, blacks are with the ultra liberal social policies nor do they benefit from globalism. The problem is, Republicans tinge all their ideas with a hint of racism which is the ultimate sin for black people so basically, black will never vote Republican until they figure out a way to divorce the message from racism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783594)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:23 PM
Author: histrionic zippy brethren genital piercing

how did rand paul's groveling "detroit republican"/giving speeches at howard/volunteering in haiti/etc. campaign work out in terms of attracting black voters, by the way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783668)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:28 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

It didn't work because it was perceived as disingenuous. Support policies which help people like me, don't just start showing up at HBCUs and community events than go back to pushing for small government bs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783698)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible burgundy abode

Blacks are not going to vote for any limited govt platform, period. Do you know how many of them are govt workers? It's insane. That would be like you voting for your company to downsize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783743)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:41 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

I agree. That's why you should talk about efficient government. A government that works for the people and saves everyone money.

Not limited government. Not small government. Not local government.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783767)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:42 PM
Author: Concupiscible burgundy abode

Bro everyone would see through efficient govt flame and realize it's just the buzzword for cutting budgets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783776)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:45 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

Not if you back it up with actual policy positions. Like, for instance, giving school districts MORE money if they both increase test scores and spend less than 95% of budget over a 5 year period. That's about efficiency, not small/local government.

Instead of "we want local control over our schools..." Sorry, but no black person wants white people making decisions at a local level. It has never worked out well for us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783792)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 6:49 AM
Author: Floppy Friendly Grandma

Lol. How do you think they make shit "more efficient" you stupid mba faggot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30787514)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:54 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

This is true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783847)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 11:37 PM
Author: haunting market

(Guy who has never met a black person)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786376)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:12 PM
Author: Dark useless heaven

Non white here. Number 3 alone is why not voting Trump. There is a legitimate economic self interest argument for limiting immigration. However, the way so many alt right types seem to have a visceral disgust for minorities is a complete turn off

It's really fucking sad we might have to consider joining the globalists against the Nationalists, I never thought I'd find a group I despise more than globalists

I'm stuck with this social justice warrior 60 hour work week corporate bullshit because the Trumptards turned out to be even bigger faggots, and that's a huge feat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783613)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:13 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783618)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:17 PM
Author: alcoholic house

You'll never get racism out of the electorate, honestly. But you want a candidate who doesn't stoke them but still vies for their votes and patronage? You'd vote for that guy? (This is just curiosity about whether it's the candidates or his voting bloc that makes you more resistant)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783643)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:22 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

Yes and I would 100% vote for that guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783664)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:24 PM
Author: alcoholic house

nice, I'd prefer that guy over Trump too especially so I could wear a maga hat without fear of getting jumped or fired, but Trump's what we've got for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783672)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:27 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

As it relates to the voting bloc. The candidate needs to confront the racism in his bloc while still defending the issues. Meaning..."you David Duke, fuck off you're a racist, I don't want your vote." Now anyone who believes in XYZ but isn't a racist, lets roll. Kinda like McCain did with the "he's an arab" lady. (though he let that shit festure for a long time before putting a stop to it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783691)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:09 PM
Author: carmine idea he suggested

That guy was called Ronald Reagan and he/his strategists were geniuses at doing exactly this and it changed the course of American history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783931)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 10:19 PM
Author: alcoholic house

Did RR oppose immigration and global capitalism?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786092)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:55 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783851)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: Light dead codepig

If you don't like living with white people, why do you stay in the US?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786765)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 6:13 AM
Author: High-end Dilemma Striped Hyena

funny, I have a similar analysis until the very last step.

alt-righters are often angry and crass, but they aren't evil globalists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30787506)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:24 PM
Author: spectacular mustard home

Dude, you're decribing Jon Huntsman to a key (except he is Mormy). But xo just calls him a cuck and moves on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783669)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:26 PM
Author: mentally impaired ocher cumskin

Uh, because he is a cuck

In June 2007, Huntsman joined other Western governors in urging the Senate to pass comprehensive immigration reform.[105] In 2005, Huntsman signed a bill giving undocumented migrants access to "driving-privilege cards", which allowed them to have driving privileges but unlike driver licenses, cannot be used for identification purposes.[106] As governor, Huntsman threatened to veto a measure repealing in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.[107]

Huntsman has stated support for a border fence, saying that, "as an American, the thought of a fence to some extent repulses me ... but the situation is such that I don't think we have a choice."[108] In the September 9 CNN GOP debate, Huntsman suggested that the country needed more legal immigration, claiming that it will revive America's housing market, citing Vancouver's quickly growing real estate market as evidence.[109] Huntsman also supports granting more H-1B visas to foreigners.[110]

Huntsman supported the DREAM Act which proposed a path to citizenship for young people brought to the United States by their parents illegally.[111]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783680)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:32 PM
Author: Fuchsia hairless spot

"Huntsman suggested that the country needed more legal immigration, claiming that it will revive America's housing market, citing Vancouver's quickly growing real estate market as evidence."

ahahaha, gas this boomer ass slave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783723)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:54 PM
Author: Floppy Friendly Grandma

that guy is a fucking cuck and wouldn't have gotten 10% of the black vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783850)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:25 PM
Author: histrionic zippy brethren genital piercing

minorities vote dem mainly for economic reasons, not because the other party is "rathith."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783675)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:30 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

I'm black and I disagree. Republican are perceived as racist and they do nothing to try to correct that image. In fact, they try to live up to the image.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783711)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible burgundy abode

That's just icing on the cake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783745)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:49 PM
Author: histrionic zippy brethren genital piercing

how many blacks voted for dole/kemp? jack kemp was a former football player who spent most of his life groveling toward blacks for various reasons. he was much more of a black-people-lover than bill clinton was, that's for sure.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783823)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:52 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

Black people don't want a "black people lover," they want people who support policies which benefit them. If we just wanted a black people lover, we'd support Ben Carson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783838)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:55 PM
Author: Floppy Friendly Grandma

yea, 90%+ of blacks have the same economic interests

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783855)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:27 PM
Author: Irradiated mad cow disease digit ratio

i would also add, supporting a national living wage for law abiding citizens and legal residents who work full-time jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783687)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:29 PM
Author: Sexy Den

Rand Paul did everything he could to appeal to blacks and got absolutely nowhere.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783702)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:34 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

He didn't stop the local government flame. The libertarian ideology is not appealing to black so he's the wrong guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783730)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:02 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

Very true.

Part of that is because he didn't have the support of the GOP while courting blacks.

It's hard to convince blacks, "Hey, I'm a good guy! Don't worry about the rest of my party!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783891)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:03 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783899)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:29 PM
Author: flickering azure multi-billionaire

Nah, but thanks for the suggestions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783703)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:46 PM
Author: Bateful casino

CR. OP is a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783795)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:47 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

(XO2015)

thanks for the insight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783808)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:49 PM
Author: Bateful casino

Why would I waste my time explaining why you're a retard when you won't get it anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783822)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:40 PM
Author: irate parlor

This seems like a moderate Dem. platform.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783758)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:42 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

I was actually going to say basically Obama without all the liberal social policies but figured mentioning Obama would derail the thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783779)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:48 PM
Author: buck-toothed beady-eyed national security agency

So, the first to adopt SHITLIB agenda? Got it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783816)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:51 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

what about what I just said is shitlib? From a historical perspective, if you remove all the social stuff (gay rights, trannys, etc.) Obama is a moderate republican. now, if you just don't like niggers (the reason you probably hate Obama) cool, but enjoy losing elections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783829)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:57 PM
Author: buck-toothed beady-eyed national security agency

Ur an idiot. Ur entire argument is that to win, republicans need to become shitlibs.

Also, ur just dead wrong, starting with ur first point. trump is extremely controversial, but is neck and neck with Clinton. You really think a dude like Romney would fare better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783857)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:02 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

No, my argument is that to win, Republicans need to run a non-controversial candidate that presents conservative views in a more moderate fashion.

Trump is going to get rolled by Hillary in the electoral college. If you don't believe that, there's no hope for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783889)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 18th, 2018 8:24 PM
Author: tan goal in life boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#35633895)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

If you took out his "controversial" statements, then you wouldn't have a Trump since his entire wave of success is b/c of his controversial proposals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783902)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 10:39 PM
Author: buck-toothed beady-eyed national security agency

Are you arguing for the OP or me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786169)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:32 PM
Author: mildly autistic vigorous mediation

Bro, none of that's shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30784068)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:52 PM
Author: Vengeful Excitant Milk School

i'm always amazed when JJC gets so many people to respond to him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783836)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:52 PM
Author: mildly autistic vigorous mediation

These could all probably be done. I personally disagree with you extensively on #2 -- letting people have a certain degree of self-determination and locally tailored policy is what makes a country as large and diverse as the U.S. work -- but even it could be pushed into a nationalist platform over my personal objections. It strikes me as one of those issues/concepts that GOP cucks have always thought their base really wanted, but really they're not that into it. (We've been finding a lot of those over the past year!)

Would love to see #5 happen, but, prior to TRUMP, this was literally the hallmark issue of the GOP, and it'd take purging all the cuckies embedded at all levels of government to make it happen.

The racism stuff is obviously a big issue. But nationalism has appeal to racists (the fit is greater in Europe than here, since we have a genuine multi-racial society here, but still), who amplify that tinge when they promote the movement, and a lot of politicians don't want to condemn it too hard when it's in dog-whistle form b/c, frankly, we'd like the votes. Media also amplifies this aspect, not so much out of bias/hatred for nationalism (our media is *really* incompetent, way too much so for that) as out of its natural tendency to amplify controversial aspects of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783837)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:57 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

These are good points and I agree with the reason regarding why the racism exists in the politics but believe someone needs to and can transcend the dog whistle.

As it relates to #2, I think this countries history prevents local government from ever being appealing to minorities. Hell, even recently, the Texas education board tried to refer to slavery as an "african migration." And when I was growing up, we had books which referred to the "War of Northern Aggression." That's what you get with local control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783861)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 1:05 AM
Author: Light dead codepig

We get it. You are Oriental.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786884)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:06 PM
Author: Sick Toilet Seat Principal's Office

"and a lot of politicians don't want to condemn it too hard when it's in dog-whistle form b/c, frankly, we'd like the votes"

Ding-Ding-fucking-Ding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783913)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 5:37 PM
Author: mildly autistic vigorous mediation

This has been standard operating procedure for the GOP at least since the ideological party realignment was finalized in the 1960s. I despise, e.g., Paul Ryan, but I honestly doubt the dude has a racist bone in his body. I'm sure that if there were racial strife in his district, though, he would make damn sure not to alienate white racist voters (aside from the tiny number of extreme losers who join the KKK or call in to radio stations to use the n-word or whatever).

There's no reason a nationalist party has to be that way, and it should in theory be easier to avoid here than in europe since blacks are actual Americans (even virulent racists don't deny that) and they're actually quite influential in the culture (music, film, sports... POTUS). But given that the two molds we'd be working from are (1) the husk of the old GOP infrastructure and (2) the pattern of already-developed european movements, we'll probably just fall into what's easiest and periodically wink to white racists rather than try to win a multi-year courtship with blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30784085)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 7:09 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig

Credited analysis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30784603)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 4:57 PM
Author: Floppy Friendly Grandma

go fuck yourself JJC. seriously go fuck yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30783859)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 10:55 PM
Author: Silver razzle-dazzle sound barrier rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786226)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 11:00 PM
Author: autistic police squad state

To be successful, the GOP needs a singular, resonant message. Trump is trying nationalism. It's a bold move; let's see how this plays out.

I think individualism is a strong one. It can be traced through most of Republican history and it allows ample opportunity to paint the Democrats as racist for lumping all people of color together and taking them for granted. It also provides opportunity to call out SJWs for trampling on individuals' rights of free speech. They can champion criminal justice reform, tax reform, Second Amendment rights, repeal of affirmative action policies, welfare reform, etc. all by appealing to the dignity of the individual.

"Democrats call me racist for being against amnesty. But I don't think we should be lumping all immigrants together. Some immigrants came here through hard work and played by the rules. Some immigrants came here because they were duped by coyotes and trafficked here. And unfortunately some came here by violating the security of the nation where they sought shelter. Those few who broke the law need to be punished, and those who didn't need to be offered the chance to integrate into the greatest country on earth. Democrats want blanket rules for all immigrants or all Latin Americans. Democrats want to attack the individual dignity of our hardworking immigrants. I can't think of anything more racist than that."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786238)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 24th, 2016 11:32 PM
Author: yapping cruise ship potus

I like it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786357)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 1:07 AM
Author: Light dead codepig

Explain your criminal justice reform.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786899)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 25th, 2016 12:34 AM
Author: Light dead codepig

Nobody is in favor of local governments. What are you smoking? States can be very efficient, but cities are always shitholes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3265807&forum_id=2#30786695)