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LSAT LOGIC GAMES ARE DIFFICULT AS FUCK

Don't understand how HYS kids are pulling north of 170 score...
motley theater
  12/16/16
Lol
soggy casino degenerate
  12/16/16
Lol how old are you at this point?
spruce vibrant lay
  12/16/16
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fighting razzle cruise ship milk
  12/16/16
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Ivory costumed university
  12/16/16
i agree with this
Beady-eyed Range Telephone
  12/16/16
I did a cold LSAT run once (no prep) The logic games were...
Honey-headed mentally impaired native black woman
  12/16/16
this is how it is for most people man. you get way better at...
Marvelous yarmulke church
  12/16/16
What does this mean. Sections aren't scored out of 180
spruce vibrant lay
  12/16/16
I mean a score that would correspond roughly to a 160 if I j...
Honey-headed mentally impaired native black woman
  12/16/16
still doesn't make sense because LG are 22-23 questions wher...
thirsty hospital
  12/16/16
It's been a while but I seem to recall I had come up with so...
Honey-headed mentally impaired native black woman
  12/16/16
I have a hard time cracking 160 in any section
thirsty hospital
  12/16/16
fuck you my first ever kaplan was a 168 and probably got 15 ...
Sadistic people who are hurt location
  12/16/16
lol
swollen bat-shit-crazy gas station deer antler
  12/16/16
I wonder what it's like to go to Yale or Michigan.
bateful jet dog poop
  12/16/16
...
Hairraiser Locale
  12/16/16
just draw a fucking diagram. they fill themselves in.
bearded maroon turdskin
  12/16/16
what's kind of diagram, like what does it look like? Most pu...
coral heaven generalized bond
  12/16/16
usually an NxM grid will get you very far.
bearded maroon turdskin
  12/16/16
lol no. but i guess more iq based than something you would l...
Floppy rambunctious queen of the night brunch
  12/16/16
Math / stats bro here - can someone poast a typical logic pr...
insane bronze dysfunction hall
  12/16/16
verbal shit on standardized tests has always been easiest fo...
Floppy rambunctious queen of the night brunch
  12/16/16
Agree - math sections were always easier IMO b/c you could j...
insane bronze dysfunction hall
  12/16/16
H --> ~G J or M --> H W --> G ~J --> S Wha...
thirsty hospital
  12/16/16
Ok thanks - not necessarily difficult but time would be the ...
insane bronze dysfunction hall
  12/16/16
answer, please
thirsty hospital
  12/16/16
Not going to get out a paper and pencil for this shit on a F...
insane bronze dysfunction hall
  12/16/16
not necessarily S, could be either S or J, but yeah 1 is the...
thirsty hospital
  12/16/16
Just do 9 years of prep
Drunken Aphrodisiac Love Of Her Life Dilemma
  12/16/16
...
Hairraiser Locale
  12/16/16
...
Ivory costumed university
  12/16/16
I got a perfect score on all sections but logic games on my ...
Mischievous mint private investor
  12/16/16
"I could teach a black to get a perfect score on the ga...
insane bronze dysfunction hall
  12/16/16
TYFT literally just fell off my chair laughing
Carnelian bawdyhouse pocket flask
  12/16/16
Not sure why that's funny - I certainly didn't intend it to ...
insane bronze dysfunction hall
  12/16/16
People of color have to overcome additional issues of cultur...
duck-like naked rigor orchestra pit
  12/16/16
I thought they were easy until I had to teach other people t...
Saffron den
  12/16/16
They're probably the most learnable section. The first time...
crusty public bath
  12/16/16
go on
coral heaven generalized bond
  12/16/16
Lol why are you studying for the lsat?
Hairraiser Locale
  12/16/16
is lsat still a thing?
diverse really tough guy pistol
  12/16/16
Definitely
Hairraiser Locale
  12/16/16
so retro
diverse really tough guy pistol
  12/16/16
Fuck I should be in law school right now
Hairraiser Locale
  12/16/16
maybe got 50% on first practice. got perfect score on games ...
Bull headed legend
  12/16/16
I hated rc
Hairraiser Locale
  12/16/16
believe it or not, some people will never be able to do 4 ga...
Bright headpube national
  12/16/16
lol @ thinking RC is hard— azn or autist spotted
Saffron den
  12/16/16
The LSAT is a learnable test, and if you study then you'll q...
federal business firm
  12/16/16
An advertising executive must schedule the advertising durin...
motley theater
  12/17/16
Power scores "not" rules for ordering is inefficie...
Clear abode
  12/17/16


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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:24 PM
Author: motley theater

Don't understand how HYS kids are pulling north of 170 scores

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161194)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:25 PM
Author: soggy casino degenerate

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161198)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:25 PM
Author: spruce vibrant lay

Lol how old are you at this point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161200)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:25 PM
Author: fighting razzle cruise ship milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161207)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:52 PM
Author: Ivory costumed university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161450)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:26 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Range Telephone

i agree with this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161211)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:26 PM
Author: Honey-headed mentally impaired native black woman

I did a cold LSAT run once (no prep)

The logic games were the only section where I didn't crack 160

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161214)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:26 PM
Author: Marvelous yarmulke church

this is how it is for most people man. you get way better at logic games -- there's a system you learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161222)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:28 PM
Author: spruce vibrant lay

What does this mean. Sections aren't scored out of 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161233)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:31 PM
Author: Honey-headed mentally impaired native black woman

I mean a score that would correspond roughly to a 160 if I just counted my logic games score for all 4



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161258)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:32 PM
Author: thirsty hospital

still doesn't make sense because LG are 22-23 questions whereas LR is 25 and RC is 27-28. Why can't you just be a normal person and say you missed 12 or whatever?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161272)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:34 PM
Author: Honey-headed mentally impaired native black woman

It's been a while but I seem to recall I had come up with some vague correlation between percentage score and curved score. I guess I'm revealing why I sucked at logic games here, lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161296)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:30 PM
Author: thirsty hospital

I have a hard time cracking 160 in any section

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161250)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: Sadistic people who are hurt location

fuck you my first ever kaplan was a 168 and probably got 15 logic games wrong and 3 wrong otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161342)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:27 PM
Author: swollen bat-shit-crazy gas station deer antler

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161227)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:29 PM
Author: bateful jet dog poop

I wonder what it's like to go to Yale or Michigan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161241)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:30 PM
Author: Hairraiser Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161257)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:29 PM
Author: bearded maroon turdskin

just draw a fucking diagram. they fill themselves in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161242)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:59 PM
Author: coral heaven generalized bond

what's kind of diagram, like what does it look like? Most public school kids are only exposed to the Venn Diagram lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161529)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:04 PM
Author: bearded maroon turdskin

usually an NxM grid will get you very far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161562)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:37 PM
Author: Floppy rambunctious queen of the night brunch

lol no. but i guess more iq based than something you would learn in school like a math section

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161321)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:37 PM
Author: insane bronze dysfunction hall

Math / stats bro here - can someone poast a typical logic problem? I've always struggled much more with the verbal shit on standardized tests than math / logic - but would be interested to see what kind of problems are in these sections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161324)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:40 PM
Author: Floppy rambunctious queen of the night brunch

verbal shit on standardized tests has always been easiest for me. it is either you speak english or don't, but superstudy people always run up scores on the math sections. logic games is great, because dumbs who are usually good at math sections from superstudying dont know what to do. for SATs the LOW IQ superstudy crowd is always a highmath/lowverbal split, but on the lsat that evens out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161349)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:46 PM
Author: insane bronze dysfunction hall

Agree - math sections were always easier IMO b/c you could just practice for them. Math GRE subject test though actually tests for some mathematical ability / reasoning unlike most standardized math tests. I'd be interested to see these logic games maybe I'll google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161393)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:43 PM
Author: thirsty hospital

H --> ~G

J or M --> H

W --> G

~J --> S

What is the maximum and minimum number of variables among the set HGJMWS that can be true?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161374)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:02 PM
Author: insane bronze dysfunction hall

Ok thanks - not necessarily difficult but time would be the biggest concern with these IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161540)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:03 PM
Author: thirsty hospital

answer, please

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161554)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:25 PM
Author: insane bronze dysfunction hall

Not going to get out a paper and pencil for this shit on a Friday night - but just looking at it 1 is the minimum (S needs to be true in this scenario)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161773)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:28 PM
Author: thirsty hospital

not necessarily S, could be either S or J, but yeah 1 is the minimum. that part fucks up a huge % of test takers. finding the max is hard to do in your head, I would probably fuck it up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161812)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:38 PM
Author: Drunken Aphrodisiac Love Of Her Life Dilemma

Just do 9 years of prep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161334)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:40 PM
Author: Hairraiser Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161346)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:53 PM
Author: Ivory costumed university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161465)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: Mischievous mint private investor

I got a perfect score on all sections but logic games on my initial test, then superstudied just logic games for a month such that on the actual test I got a perfect score on the logic games with 20m remaining.

The trick is to learn to oversolve each potential type of game, then generate a set of all possible games, then generate an efficient system (a 'grammar') to force all the answers out of any given game as fast as possible.

It's literally just a learned skill. I could teach a black to get a perfect score on the games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161337)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:49 PM
Author: insane bronze dysfunction hall

"I could teach a black to get a perfect score on the games"

Can you elaborate on this please? I'm not sure I understand the significance of your statement - my sociology teacher said race is a social construct and that all people are equal so I'm not sure why teaching a black person logic games would be any different?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161423)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:58 PM
Author: Carnelian bawdyhouse pocket flask

TYFT

literally just fell off my chair laughing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161513)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:06 PM
Author: insane bronze dysfunction hall

Not sure why that's funny - I certainly didn't intend it to be. If you're doubting my claim then I suggest that you reconsider - my sociology teacher is an academic and does research. He's a university professor so he knows what he's talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161574)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:59 PM
Author: duck-like naked rigor orchestra pit

People of color have to overcome additional issues of cultural bias and white privilege

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161521)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: Saffron den

I thought they were easy until I had to teach other people to do them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161343)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:53 PM
Author: crusty public bath

They're probably the most learnable section. The first time I took a practice LSAT, I probably got 1/2 of the logic games wrong and thought they were impossible fucking brainteasers. On the real test, I got them all right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161467)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:00 PM
Author: coral heaven generalized bond

go on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161536)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:02 PM
Author: Hairraiser Locale

Lol why are you studying for the lsat?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161545)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:17 PM
Author: diverse really tough guy pistol

is lsat still a thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161692)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:18 PM
Author: Hairraiser Locale

Definitely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161699)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:19 PM
Author: diverse really tough guy pistol

so retro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161715)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:20 PM
Author: Hairraiser Locale

Fuck I should be in law school right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161726)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:07 PM
Author: Bull headed legend

maybe got 50% on first practice. got perfect score on games on actual test. it's a system. it's much easier than RC sections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161585)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:10 PM
Author: Hairraiser Locale

I hated rc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161621)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:10 PM
Author: Bright headpube national

believe it or not, some people will never be able to do 4 games in 35 minutes. it's the timing issue that causes big problems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161622)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:30 PM
Author: Saffron den

lol @ thinking RC is hard— azn or autist spotted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161832)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:18 PM
Author: federal business firm

The LSAT is a learnable test, and if you study then you'll quickly learn that LSAC does the exact same question types over and over. Once you've done a lot of practice questions and learn to recognize the kinds of questions LSAC throws at you, the logic games aren't really that bad.

I went to CCN. There were people in my class who landed 175+ on the LSAT and were of middling intelligence. You don't have to be smart to do well on the LSAT, but you do have to recognize the types of questions that LSAC likes to use over and over, and you do have to complete lots of practice tests.

I used the Powerscore Games Bible and thought it was EXCELLENT. I can't praise it highly enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161707)



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Date: December 17th, 2016 2:57 PM
Author: motley theater

An advertising executive must schedule the advertising during a particular television show. Seven different consecutive time slots are available for advertisements during a commercial break, and are numbered one through seven in the order that they will be aired. Seven different advertisements – B, C, D, F, H, J, and K – must be aired during the show. Only one advertisement can occupy each time slot. The assignment of the advertisements to the slots is subject to the following restrictions:

B and D must occupy consecutive time slots.

B must be aired during an earlier time slot than K.

D must be aired during a later time slot than H.

If H does not occupy the fourth time slot, then F must occupy the fourth time slot.

K and J cannot occupy consecutively numbered time slots.

1.Which of the following could be a possible list of the

advertisements in the order that they are aired?

(A) BDFHJCK

(B) CJBHDKF

(C) HBDFJCK

(D) HDBFKJC

(E) HJDBFKC

2. If advertisement B is assigned to the third time slot, then which

of the following must be true?

(A) C is assigned to the sixth time slot.

(B) D is assigned to the first time slot.

(C) H is assigned to the fourth time slot.

(D) J is assigned to the fifth time slot.

(E) K is assigned to the seventh time slot.

3. Which of the following could be true?

(A) B is assigned to the first time slot.

(B) D is assigned to the fifth time slot.

(C) H is assigned to the seventh time slot.

(D) J is assigned to the sixth time slot.

(E) K is assigned to the third time slot.

4. If C is assigned to the third time slot, then each of the

following could be true EXCEPT:

(A) B is assigned to the fifth time slot.

(B) D is assigned to the sixth time slot.

(C) F is assigned to the fourth time slot.

(D) J is assigned to the first time slot.

(E) K is assigned to the second time slot.

5. If H is assigned to the first time slot, then which of the

following is a complete and accurate list of all the time slots

to which C could be assigned?

(A) second, fifth, sixth, seventh

(B) second, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh

(C) second, fourth, sixth

(D) second, third, fifth, sixth, seventh

(E) second, third, sixth

6. If J is assigned to the seventh slot, then which of the

following must be assigned to the fifth slot?

(A) B

(B) C

(C) D

(D) F

(E) K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32165819)



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Date: December 17th, 2016 3:04 PM
Author: Clear abode

Power scores "not" rules for ordering is inefficient. Also their notation for ordering, which uses greater than signs, is unwieldy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32165898)