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LSAT LOGIC GAMES ARE DIFFICULT AS FUCK

Don't understand how HYS kids are pulling north of 170 score...
slim_shady_man  12/16/16
Lol
Chill Bisexual Sociopath  12/16/16
Lol how old are you at this point?
morality is gay  12/16/16
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donny (farewell brothers)  12/16/16
...
if you have ghosts  12/16/16
i agree with this
Wilbur Mercer, man in miniature  12/16/16
I did a cold LSAT run once (no prep) The logic games were...
Too WEAK to be MASSA, too PROUND to be SLAVE  12/16/16
this is how it is for most people man. you get way better at...
.....,////..........  12/16/16
What does this mean. Sections aren't scored out of 180
morality is gay  12/16/16
I mean a score that would correspond roughly to a 160 if I j...
Too WEAK to be MASSA, too PROUND to be SLAVE  12/16/16
still doesn't make sense because LG are 22-23 questions wher...
guy whose views come from a position of privilege  12/16/16
It's been a while but I seem to recall I had come up with so...
Too WEAK to be MASSA, too PROUND to be SLAVE  12/16/16
I have a hard time cracking 160 in any section
guy whose views come from a position of privilege  12/16/16
fuck you my first ever kaplan was a 168 and probably got 15 ...
Marty McFly's Japanese truck  12/16/16
lol
rustt  12/16/16
I wonder what it's like to go to Yale or Michigan.
CapTTTainFalcon  12/16/16
...
peterman  12/16/16
just draw a fucking diagram. they fill themselves in.
{(o)}  12/16/16
what's kind of diagram, like what does it look like? Most pu...
turd tornado coming your way  12/16/16
usually an NxM grid will get you very far.
{(o)}  12/16/16
lol no. but i guess more iq based than something you would l...
Subtle Hipster Troll  12/16/16
Math / stats bro here - can someone poast a typical logic pr...
borders  12/16/16
verbal shit on standardized tests has always been easiest fo...
Subtle Hipster Troll  12/16/16
Agree - math sections were always easier IMO b/c you could j...
borders  12/16/16
H --> ~G J or M --> H W --> G ~J --> S Wha...
guy whose views come from a position of privilege  12/16/16
Ok thanks - not necessarily difficult but time would be the ...
borders  12/16/16
answer, please
guy whose views come from a position of privilege  12/16/16
Not going to get out a paper and pencil for this shit on a F...
borders  12/16/16
not necessarily S, could be either S or J, but yeah 1 is the...
guy whose views come from a position of privilege  12/16/16
Just do 9 years of prep
Brubaker  12/16/16
...
peterman  12/16/16
...
if you have ghosts  12/16/16
I got a perfect score on all sections but logic games on my ...
twins  12/16/16
"I could teach a black to get a perfect score on the ga...
borders  12/16/16
TYFT literally just fell off my chair laughing
Punctuation Monica  12/16/16
Not sure why that's funny - I certainly didn't intend it to ...
borders  12/16/16
People of color have to overcome additional issues of cultur...
Xo Schopenhauer  12/16/16
I thought they were easy until I had to teach other people t...
.... -^^,--,~....  12/16/16
They're probably the most learnable section. The first time...
,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.  12/16/16
go on
turd tornado coming your way  12/16/16
Lol why are you studying for the lsat?
peterman  12/16/16
is lsat still a thing?
`,  12/16/16
Definitely
peterman  12/16/16
so retro
`,  12/16/16
Fuck I should be in law school right now
peterman  12/16/16
maybe got 50% on first practice. got perfect score on games ...
.,.,...,;..,.,.,:,,:,.;..,:::,....,:,.,.:.:.,:::,.  12/16/16
I hated rc
peterman  12/16/16
believe it or not, some people will never be able to do 4 ga...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::..,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,.  12/16/16
lol @ thinking RC is hard— azn or autist spotted
.... -^^,--,~....  12/16/16
The LSAT is a learnable test, and if you study then you'll q...
Sarah Hyland's Cambodian catfish curry farts  12/16/16
An advertising executive must schedule the advertising durin...
slim_shady_man  12/17/16
Power scores "not" rules for ordering is inefficie...
''"'''"'''"'  12/17/16


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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:24 PM
Author: slim_shady_man

Don't understand how HYS kids are pulling north of 170 scores

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161194)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:25 PM
Author: Chill Bisexual Sociopath

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161198)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:25 PM
Author: morality is gay (mig)

Lol how old are you at this point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161200)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:25 PM
Author: donny (farewell brothers) (literally shaking)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161207)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:52 PM
Author: if you have ghosts



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161450)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:26 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, man in miniature (Wilbur Mercer)

i agree with this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161211)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:26 PM
Author: Too WEAK to be MASSA, too PROUND to be SLAVE (big in boise)

I did a cold LSAT run once (no prep)

The logic games were the only section where I didn't crack 160

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161214)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:26 PM
Author: .....,////.......... (brother Slashmo)

this is how it is for most people man. you get way better at logic games -- there's a system you learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161222)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:28 PM
Author: morality is gay (mig)

What does this mean. Sections aren't scored out of 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161233)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:31 PM
Author: Too WEAK to be MASSA, too PROUND to be SLAVE (big in boise)

I mean a score that would correspond roughly to a 160 if I just counted my logic games score for all 4



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161258)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:32 PM
Author: guy whose views come from a position of privilege ( )

still doesn't make sense because LG are 22-23 questions whereas LR is 25 and RC is 27-28. Why can't you just be a normal person and say you missed 12 or whatever?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161272)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:34 PM
Author: Too WEAK to be MASSA, too PROUND to be SLAVE (big in boise)

It's been a while but I seem to recall I had come up with some vague correlation between percentage score and curved score. I guess I'm revealing why I sucked at logic games here, lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161296)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:30 PM
Author: guy whose views come from a position of privilege ( )

I have a hard time cracking 160 in any section

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161250)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: Marty McFly's Japanese truck

fuck you my first ever kaplan was a 168 and probably got 15 logic games wrong and 3 wrong otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161342)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:27 PM
Author: rustt

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161227)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:29 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

I wonder what it's like to go to Yale or Michigan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161241)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:30 PM
Author: peterman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161257)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:29 PM
Author: {(o)} (vagmo)

just draw a fucking diagram. they fill themselves in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161242)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:59 PM
Author: turd tornado coming your way

what's kind of diagram, like what does it look like? Most public school kids are only exposed to the Venn Diagram lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161529)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:04 PM
Author: {(o)} (vagmo)

usually an NxM grid will get you very far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161562)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:37 PM
Author: Subtle Hipster Troll (Semi-Retired)

lol no. but i guess more iq based than something you would learn in school like a math section

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161321)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:37 PM
Author: borders (Padre)

Math / stats bro here - can someone poast a typical logic problem? I've always struggled much more with the verbal shit on standardized tests than math / logic - but would be interested to see what kind of problems are in these sections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161324)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:40 PM
Author: Subtle Hipster Troll (Semi-Retired)

verbal shit on standardized tests has always been easiest for me. it is either you speak english or don't, but superstudy people always run up scores on the math sections. logic games is great, because dumbs who are usually good at math sections from superstudying dont know what to do. for SATs the LOW IQ superstudy crowd is always a highmath/lowverbal split, but on the lsat that evens out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161349)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:46 PM
Author: borders (Padre)

Agree - math sections were always easier IMO b/c you could just practice for them. Math GRE subject test though actually tests for some mathematical ability / reasoning unlike most standardized math tests. I'd be interested to see these logic games maybe I'll google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161393)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:43 PM
Author: guy whose views come from a position of privilege ( )

H --> ~G

J or M --> H

W --> G

~J --> S

What is the maximum and minimum number of variables among the set HGJMWS that can be true?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161374)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:02 PM
Author: borders (Padre)

Ok thanks - not necessarily difficult but time would be the biggest concern with these IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161540)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:03 PM
Author: guy whose views come from a position of privilege ( )

answer, please

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161554)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:25 PM
Author: borders (Padre)

Not going to get out a paper and pencil for this shit on a Friday night - but just looking at it 1 is the minimum (S needs to be true in this scenario)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161773)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:28 PM
Author: guy whose views come from a position of privilege ( )

not necessarily S, could be either S or J, but yeah 1 is the minimum. that part fucks up a huge % of test takers. finding the max is hard to do in your head, I would probably fuck it up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161812)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:38 PM
Author: Brubaker

Just do 9 years of prep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161334)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:40 PM
Author: peterman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161346)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:53 PM
Author: if you have ghosts



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161465)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: twins

I got a perfect score on all sections but logic games on my initial test, then superstudied just logic games for a month such that on the actual test I got a perfect score on the logic games with 20m remaining.

The trick is to learn to oversolve each potential type of game, then generate a set of all possible games, then generate an efficient system (a 'grammar') to force all the answers out of any given game as fast as possible.

It's literally just a learned skill. I could teach a black to get a perfect score on the games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161337)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:49 PM
Author: borders (Padre)

"I could teach a black to get a perfect score on the games"

Can you elaborate on this please? I'm not sure I understand the significance of your statement - my sociology teacher said race is a social construct and that all people are equal so I'm not sure why teaching a black person logic games would be any different?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161423)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:58 PM
Author: Punctuation Monica

TYFT

literally just fell off my chair laughing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161513)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:06 PM
Author: borders (Padre)

Not sure why that's funny - I certainly didn't intend it to be. If you're doubting my claim then I suggest that you reconsider - my sociology teacher is an academic and does research. He's a university professor so he knows what he's talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161574)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:59 PM
Author: Xo Schopenhauer

People of color have to overcome additional issues of cultural bias and white privilege

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161521)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: .... -^^,--,~....

I thought they were easy until I had to teach other people to do them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161343)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 9:53 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.

They're probably the most learnable section. The first time I took a practice LSAT, I probably got 1/2 of the logic games wrong and thought they were impossible fucking brainteasers. On the real test, I got them all right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161467)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:00 PM
Author: turd tornado coming your way

go on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161536)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:02 PM
Author: peterman

Lol why are you studying for the lsat?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161545)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:17 PM
Author: `,

is lsat still a thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161692)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:18 PM
Author: peterman

Definitely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161699)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:19 PM
Author: `,

so retro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161715)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:20 PM
Author: peterman

Fuck I should be in law school right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161726)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:07 PM
Author: .,.,...,;..,.,.,:,,:,.;..,:::,....,:,.,.:.:.,:::,.

maybe got 50% on first practice. got perfect score on games on actual test. it's a system. it's much easier than RC sections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161585)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:10 PM
Author: peterman

I hated rc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161621)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:10 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::..,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,.

believe it or not, some people will never be able to do 4 games in 35 minutes. it's the timing issue that causes big problems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161622)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:30 PM
Author: .... -^^,--,~....

lol @ thinking RC is hard— azn or autist spotted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161832)



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Date: December 16th, 2016 10:18 PM
Author: Sarah Hyland's Cambodian catfish curry farts

The LSAT is a learnable test, and if you study then you'll quickly learn that LSAC does the exact same question types over and over. Once you've done a lot of practice questions and learn to recognize the kinds of questions LSAC throws at you, the logic games aren't really that bad.

I went to CCN. There were people in my class who landed 175+ on the LSAT and were of middling intelligence. You don't have to be smart to do well on the LSAT, but you do have to recognize the types of questions that LSAC likes to use over and over, and you do have to complete lots of practice tests.

I used the Powerscore Games Bible and thought it was EXCELLENT. I can't praise it highly enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32161707)



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Date: December 17th, 2016 2:57 PM
Author: slim_shady_man

An advertising executive must schedule the advertising during a particular television show. Seven different consecutive time slots are available for advertisements during a commercial break, and are numbered one through seven in the order that they will be aired. Seven different advertisements – B, C, D, F, H, J, and K – must be aired during the show. Only one advertisement can occupy each time slot. The assignment of the advertisements to the slots is subject to the following restrictions:

B and D must occupy consecutive time slots.

B must be aired during an earlier time slot than K.

D must be aired during a later time slot than H.

If H does not occupy the fourth time slot, then F must occupy the fourth time slot.

K and J cannot occupy consecutively numbered time slots.

1.Which of the following could be a possible list of the

advertisements in the order that they are aired?

(A) BDFHJCK

(B) CJBHDKF

(C) HBDFJCK

(D) HDBFKJC

(E) HJDBFKC

2. If advertisement B is assigned to the third time slot, then which

of the following must be true?

(A) C is assigned to the sixth time slot.

(B) D is assigned to the first time slot.

(C) H is assigned to the fourth time slot.

(D) J is assigned to the fifth time slot.

(E) K is assigned to the seventh time slot.

3. Which of the following could be true?

(A) B is assigned to the first time slot.

(B) D is assigned to the fifth time slot.

(C) H is assigned to the seventh time slot.

(D) J is assigned to the sixth time slot.

(E) K is assigned to the third time slot.

4. If C is assigned to the third time slot, then each of the

following could be true EXCEPT:

(A) B is assigned to the fifth time slot.

(B) D is assigned to the sixth time slot.

(C) F is assigned to the fourth time slot.

(D) J is assigned to the first time slot.

(E) K is assigned to the second time slot.

5. If H is assigned to the first time slot, then which of the

following is a complete and accurate list of all the time slots

to which C could be assigned?

(A) second, fifth, sixth, seventh

(B) second, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh

(C) second, fourth, sixth

(D) second, third, fifth, sixth, seventh

(E) second, third, sixth

6. If J is assigned to the seventh slot, then which of the

following must be assigned to the fifth slot?

(A) B

(B) C

(C) D

(D) F

(E) K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32165819)



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Date: December 17th, 2016 3:04 PM
Author: ''"'''"'''"'

Power scores "not" rules for ordering is inefficient. Also their notation for ordering, which uses greater than signs, is unwieldy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3462869&forum_id=2#32165898)