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Spent the last month watching the entire Sopranos series. Some thoughts.

Epic show. Really well done. Up there with the GOAT serial d...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
Just rewatched the pilot, Gandolfini = GOAT
grizzly mischievous black woman
  12/30/16
It's the GOAT show What did you think of ending
Chest-beating Kink-friendly Home
  12/30/16
I thought the fade to black thing was intentionally ambiguou...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
Ending was not entirely ambiguous IMO
Chest-beating Kink-friendly Home
  12/30/16
I don't know. I read up on it a little bit and I think even ...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
I know he's said in a couple of interviews that Tony's not d...
mahogany goyim
  12/30/16
...
Chest-beating Kink-friendly Home
  12/30/16
Significance of Don't Stop Believing?
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
Not sure, maybe the contrast of a nostalgic family moment an...
mahogany goyim
  12/30/16
Could also be an ode to staying positive. Like Tony gets to ...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
It wasn't ambiguous at all. Tony got capped, it was pretty c...
Titillating church building
  05/03/17
You don't *get* Chris
Pearly Hairless Sex Offender
  12/30/16
He was a tortured junkie. What am I missing?
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
General passion for everything, reflected in the terrible wa...
grizzly mischievous black woman
  12/30/16
Yeah that wasn't lost on me.
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
You thought Vito's subplot was good? It felt like a complete...
mahogany goyim
  12/30/16
There were several episodes that felt like a complete waste ...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
When paulie goes "I survived by the skin of my nuts whe...
grizzly mischievous black woman
  12/30/16
Paulie was a good character
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
Stevie Van zandt also killed it w/ out any prior acting expe...
grizzly mischievous black woman
  12/30/16
Agreed.
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
cr, how did he get the part in the first place?
up-to-no-good turquoise pervert
  12/30/16
Jersey guy 4 lyfe
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
I did this too. I ended up thinking that it was kind of disj...
Onyx athletic conference whorehouse
  12/30/16
Agreed on AJ. His screen time was a beating. It almost makes...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
I went to high school with a bunch of rich kids, most of who...
Translucent diverse box office
  12/30/16
If they cast a fat kid who grew into Jerry O'Connell though,...
Onyx athletic conference whorehouse
  12/30/16
I might get stomped but i also felt like many of the scenes ...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
I skimmed a couple of message boards and the dudebros are li...
Onyx athletic conference whorehouse
  12/30/16
I get that they offer insight. So many of the sessions after...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
I feel like Sopranos would have been 180 trillion if you wer...
godawful bbw
  12/30/16
I can't imagine watching all that every week for 8 years Y...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
The Wire was much better paced to binge-watch
godawful bbw
  12/30/16
I need to try that again I thought the pilot was a beat dow...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
To me Sopranos is almost more like a sitcom like Seinfeld. I...
Pearly Hairless Sex Offender
  12/30/16
same
cerebral bisexual faggotry boistinker
  02/21/18
what i always thought was interesting about it was how ungla...
bateful fanboi
  12/30/16
Cr observation It looked like a fairly grinding middle clas...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
...
bateful fanboi
  05/03/17
my favorite scene was when they robbed the bikers
geriatric legend
  12/30/16
Another observation was how Tony towers over everybody physi...
hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef
  12/30/16
average male height in siciliy is like 5'7"/5'8".
Orange Stirring Brunch Degenerate
  05/03/17
cr just finally finished myself
Talking national idea he suggested
  01/19/17
prole tell: thinking tony got capped in the end
Charismatic casino
  05/03/17
...
swashbuckling fantasy-prone becky
  01/28/18
LJL at making Meadow out like she got offered a $190k gig be...
Judgmental crotch dopamine
  02/21/18


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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:27 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Epic show. Really well done. Up there with the GOAT serial dramas ever. I feel some kind of cultural accomplishment having consumed the entire thing. After what I thought were a fairly slow first couple seasons, the show grew into something that kept you glued.

Some thoughts:

(1) having binge watched the series, a ton of scenes are dedicated to either eating, dudes hugging and kissing each other, or scenes in hospitals. Just a observation.

(2) AJ is the most bitchass, whiny, insufferable character in the history of television. He simply had no redeeming qualities. He spent nearly every scene he was in over an eight year period acting like a bitch, pussy, or spoiled shit head. I was hoping for death during his botched suicide. Even his suicide attempt was annoying.

(3) by the end I found myself hardly rooting for any of the main characters any more. Tony had done so much awful shit that he was nearly impossible to like. At least for me. Chris the same way. The minute you'd start to root for these guys they do something despicable.

(4) for reason (3), I think Artie Bucco was probably my favorite character on the show. He was likeable as hell as the good hearted underdog always getting his balls busted. I found huge satisfaction when he popped one of Tony's guys stealing from him. Go Artie.

(5) the way Chris treated Adriana throughout the entire show was fucking

despicable. Her demise was sad as fuck.

(6) the Vito fag subplot was cr and it was sad seeing him get got even though you knew it was coming. Should have just stayed with Johnny cakes.

Will add if I think of anything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266567)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:27 PM
Author: grizzly mischievous black woman

Just rewatched the pilot, Gandolfini = GOAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266574)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:28 PM
Author: Chest-beating Kink-friendly Home

It's the GOAT show

What did you think of ending

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266580)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:30 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

I thought the fade to black thing was intentionally ambiguous. We don't know what happens after. That's fine

Tony killing Chris was fitting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266586)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:31 PM
Author: Chest-beating Kink-friendly Home

Ending was not entirely ambiguous IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266592)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:32 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

I don't know. I read up on it a little bit and I think even Chase said it was supposed to be ambiguous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266598)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:34 PM
Author: mahogany goyim

I know he's said in a couple of interviews that Tony's not dead, but I think he's flaming. Seems like everything points to him being dead, especially Bobby talking about how you don't see the guy killing you, it just "all goes black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266613)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:34 PM
Author: Chest-beating Kink-friendly Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266615)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:36 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Significance of Don't Stop Believing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266627)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:38 PM
Author: mahogany goyim

Not sure, maybe the contrast of a nostalgic family moment and his demise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266658)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:39 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Could also be an ode to staying positive. Like Tony gets to keep going. I don't think it's as clear as you do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266671)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 8:49 PM
Author: Titillating church building

It wasn't ambiguous at all. Tony got capped, it was pretty clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#33224650)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:32 PM
Author: Pearly Hairless Sex Offender

You don't *get* Chris

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266600)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:33 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

He was a tortured junkie. What am I missing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266607)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:35 PM
Author: grizzly mischievous black woman

General passion for everything, reflected in the terrible way he treats adrianna. He was groomed to become the perfect cold gangster, couldn't take it & used H to cope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266618)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:40 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Yeah that wasn't lost on me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266681)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:35 PM
Author: mahogany goyim

You thought Vito's subplot was good? It felt like a complete waste of time.

Pine Barrens is the best standalone episode imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266623)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:37 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

There were several episodes that felt like a complete waste of time and detour to nowhere. That wasn't one for me. The episode where Tony meets his dad's mistress was though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266649)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:36 PM
Author: grizzly mischievous black woman

When paulie goes "I survived by the skin of my nuts when the colombos were going at it in the 70s", he improvised this based on his life because he was actual mob associate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266630)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:38 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Paulie was a good character

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266657)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:40 PM
Author: grizzly mischievous black woman

Stevie Van zandt also killed it w/ out any prior acting experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266680)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:41 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Agreed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266686)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:09 PM
Author: up-to-no-good turquoise pervert

cr, how did he get the part in the first place?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266898)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:10 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Jersey guy 4 lyfe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266905)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:43 PM
Author: Onyx athletic conference whorehouse

I did this too. I ended up thinking that it was kind of disjointed. It seemed that way when I saw it on TV, but I thought that was because I was missing entire seasons plus random episodes. The mob-type plots are always happening and there's not much exposition there. The family drama is always in the foreground, but IRL, a guy like Tony would just be absorbed in his work and whores and not gaf, plus he'd have more than just the one or two whores. Tony puts too much effort into being a 'good' father, and it causes drama because everyone hates him. Like, my father never took any of us to see a university, and he ignores me when I talk and shit. Like if he thought I used the computer too much or that I sucked, he would just insult various things about me, he wouldn't actually think about my best interests. There are millions of dads in America who make Tony seem enlightened and yuppieish.

I figure with AJ, they just wrote the character around the actor's phenotype. He went from fat kid to weak adult. If he were less dopey looking, maybe they'd make him an Engineer and he'd devise ingenious ways for Tony to get out of trouble. I don't see why they made him so useless. Just give him less screen time. I also wondered why Junior faded into the background, the conflict between he and Tony was like, the most interesting arc in the early seasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266713)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:47 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Agreed on AJ. His screen time was a beating. It almost makes me think I'm overlooking something more esoteric. Like maybe the writers were trying to portray AJ as a manifestation of Tony's insecurities or something deep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266734)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:48 PM
Author: Translucent diverse box office

I went to high school with a bunch of rich kids, most of whom were not going to be nearly as impressive as their fathers, despite their resource advantage. I think AJ is just one of those.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266743)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:53 PM
Author: Onyx athletic conference whorehouse

If they cast a fat kid who grew into Jerry O'Connell though, they'd write him differently and have him getting into trouble like Jackie Jr., or getting laid or playing football. They just write the character around the phenotype. This explains why Meadow was made to do no wrong, ever, she was to hot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266783)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:48 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

I might get stomped but i also felt like many of the scenes with Tony's psychiatrist were boring filler

Amazed Lorraine Bracco is the second billed actor on the show

Her 'treatment' seemed to accomplish nothing. This is verified at the end when she finally fired him as a patient

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266750)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 10:56 PM
Author: Onyx athletic conference whorehouse

I skimmed a couple of message boards and the dudebros are like, "I totally fast forward the Melfi scenes!" and they get 300 upvotes. I never thought they were boring filler. They tell you what Tony's thinking... gives you some exposition that isn't in the form of another argument of some kind.

She's prominent in the pilot and early on, hence being billed second.

I am Jewish btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266811)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:08 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

I get that they offer insight. So many of the sessions after so many years. Just got old to me. The scene where she gets raped was bizarre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266894)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:05 PM
Author: godawful bbw

I feel like Sopranos would have been 180 trillion if you were an HBO subscriber all those years and watched it contemporaneously. I binge watched it and I feel there was just too much going on.

Also watching it many years after the fact just feels weird for whatever reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266874)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:10 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

I can't imagine watching all that every week for 8 years

You're right though, a lot to take in a short time frame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266902)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:15 PM
Author: godawful bbw

The Wire was much better paced to binge-watch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266926)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:16 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

I need to try that again

I thought the pilot was a beat down and aborted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266937)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:21 PM
Author: Pearly Hairless Sex Offender

To me Sopranos is almost more like a sitcom like Seinfeld. It's not really meant to be taken together as one whole. All the seasons sorta blur together, with certain episodes sticking out at me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266981)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:19 PM
Author: cerebral bisexual faggotry boistinker

same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#35455729)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:20 PM
Author: bateful fanboi

what i always thought was interesting about it was how unglamorous and shitty it made day to day mob life look. like there's a whole running gag about how ridiculous the old-school trappings of the mob are when in reality its being run like any other modern american company; leotardo being pissed about the nj crew's slipshod initiation rituals, guys always complaining about someone bending 'the rules', johnny sack demanding that he be allowed to whack ralphie as a 'matter of honor', all the romantic sicilian-bandit stuff, contrasted with the scenes where tony has all his middle managers in a room and he's yelling at them for not making their numbers that quarter.

nine times out of ten everyone is hanging out in dirty basements or grimy clubs and they all live in sparsely decorated mcmansions or shitty apartments.

and i also always wondered what the subtext was of having like all the guys from the generation above tony die of cancer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266969)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:21 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Cr observation

It looked like a fairly grinding middle class existence outside of Tony

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266982)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 8:45 PM
Author: bateful fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#33224631)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:21 PM
Author: geriatric legend

my favorite scene was when they robbed the bikers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32266975)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 11:25 PM
Author: hairraiser coiffed pisswyrm french chef

Another observation was how Tony towers over everybody physically. Gandolfini's only 6'1 IRL but you'd think he was 6'5 in this show.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32267006)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 9:57 PM
Author: Orange Stirring Brunch Degenerate

average male height in siciliy is like 5'7"/5'8".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#33225100)



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Date: January 19th, 2017 5:09 PM
Author: Talking national idea he suggested

cr just finally finished myself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#32409049)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 10:05 PM
Author: Charismatic casino

prole tell: thinking tony got capped in the end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#33225170)



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Date: January 28th, 2018 12:55 AM
Author: swashbuckling fantasy-prone becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#35258049)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: Judgmental crotch dopamine

LJL at making Meadow out like she got offered a $190k gig before even being accepted to school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3477091&forum_id=2#35455836)