Megyn Kelly behaved terribly as a lawyer to opposing counsel.
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Date: February 7th, 2017 5:55 AM Author: Fear-inspiring school cafeteria turdskin
When kelly was a litigator in high-stakes lawsuits, she learned a skill of the trade: taunting her adversaries until they snapped. “I might say something passive-aggressive just to get opposing counsel mad,” she writes. “And then when he got worked up about it, I would say calmly, ‘You seem upset. Do you need a break? We can take a moment if you’d like to step outside and get yourself together.’ ” She became “an expert in making them lose their cool.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/03/can-megyn-kelly-escape-her-past/513842/
Isn't there supposed to be a minimal level of decorum and ethical behavior in law?
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Date: February 7th, 2017 8:39 PM Author: swashbuckling chocolate orchestra pit
There's times where you need to take a hard line and not agree to a requested concession but that doesn't mean you need to be a dick about it.
Being a dick just motivates them to work extra harder and means, especially if you practise in the small pool of a specialist area, that you get a reputation for being a dick who nobody is inclined to do a favour for.
Generally what comes around goes around and once you're known as a dick you often won't get the usual considerations from other attorneys.
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Date: February 7th, 2017 11:36 AM Author: orchid public bath kitty
Except that if she was a dood, people would be lauding her litigation skills and calling her tough, etc.
Think about this: all of the shit we love about Donald Trump - a fighter, brash, sometimes crude, politically incorrect, lets his passions/anger sometimes get the better of him, openly sexual/doesn't back away from statements showcasing his appreciation of attractive members of his preferred gender - are things that we'd hate in, say, Ivanka Trump. If Ivanka were more like her father in terms of personality and temperament, would people be recommending her for a political run? Would she be so popular?
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Date: February 7th, 2017 1:31 PM Author: orchid public bath kitty
But if we recognize that we instinctually devalue people for certain traits, we can be more mindful of this tendency and take steps to minimize and eliminate it.
I don't think it's necessarily a good thing that we devalue people for height, weight, or physical attractiveness from a professional standpoint unless being tall, thin, and pretty is an explicit part of the job description. We could be dinging great candidates for the job or hiring shitty ones based on these biases.
I'm only speaking from a professional perspective here, not from a standpoint of who you'd rather be friends with/date.
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Date: February 7th, 2017 1:54 PM Author: orchid public bath kitty
http://fortune.com/2014/11/05/women-workplace-studies/
Not for women.
I have a couple of friends who are objectively beautiful (top 1% may be pushing it, but still) in a classic way - natural blondes, D cups, and all. They are in male-dominated professions and sometimes encounter trouble with their male peers, especially supervisors.
Other than questionable sexual harassment (which can happen to dudes too), these women have experienced (1) not being taken as seriously as their male or less pretty female counterparts, (2) being viewed as ornamental, (3) being viewed as a dilettante who isn't taking the job as seriously because she can easily find a rich husband, (4) subject to assumptions/rumors that she used her "feminine wiles" inappropriately to achieve certain things, (5) jealousy/cattiness from female supervisors who may otherwise be mentors, (6) sexual come-ons from male supervisors who might otherwise be mentors, (7) being asked to "smile more" in annual reviews.
The calculus is different in professions like media or fashion which are dominated by attractive women and gays. But a Top 1% attractiveness woman in biglaw or finance might have a very different experience. ESPECIALLY if she's single.
If this woman is married, hell, she's respected more than her male counterparts. Unless she has kids and her husband makes money. Then, they just assume she doesn't take the job seriously because she's got her eye on the mommy track, just like they may for all women.
Being top 20-30% in looks does help the overall professional presentation, but most of this can be solved with personal hygiene and wearing clothes that work best with your body type.
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Date: February 7th, 2017 2:36 PM Author: Marvelous Sex Offender Casino
I'm not denying women have it different, but you're saying we should only consider people for their "abilities" and not for anything superficial. Example: a fat short bald male is unpleasant to look at. Now you may not be dating him or friends with him, but if he's your coworker you will spend more waking hours with him then with your family. That reduces your qol at work
An analogue is a shrill voice. A shrill voice on a conference call is inherently unpleasant. And women are far more likely to have shrill voices then men.
None of this is fair, but you're asking people to ignore things that are part of being human.
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Date: February 7th, 2017 4:04 PM Author: orchid public bath kitty
A shrill voice is something that you can easily modulate, and I've had to advise people (kindly and tactfully and in private) to modulate their voice on conference calls. I also can't remember the last time I've heard a memorably shrill voice a la Janice from Friends.
A fat, short, bald male may be unpleasant to look at but if he's professional, well-spoken, and personable I won't notice the fat/short/bald aspects unless there's a pronounced hygiene issue (deodorant not working, bad breath).
I can think of many fat/short/bald men (or otherwise unattractive men) that I've worked with who have been great to work with due to personality, capability, mentorship, etc. and were valued members of the team.
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Date: February 7th, 2017 5:00 PM Author: Hateful stage
"if she was a dood, people would be lauding her litigation skills and calling her tough, etc."
No, they would be calling her a dick.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3518543&forum_id=2#32567459)
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Date: February 7th, 2017 7:52 AM Author: fishy corner
Added to thingsthatdidnthappen.docx
I'm sure she was a terror as she rolled through those Jones Day offices
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Date: February 7th, 2017 8:16 AM Author: Marvelous Sex Offender Casino
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At Jones Day, Kelly billed 3,000 hours a year. She was on partnership track. Everything might have seemed perfect, but she wasn’t happy:
"I had been working myself into a frenzy, billing more than 3,000 hours a year. The better you are as a lawyer, the more work gets loaded on you as a ‘reward.’ As they say, working in law is like a pie-eating contest in which the prize is more pie. Which is about when I realized: just because you’re good at something doesn’t mean it makes you happy."
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Date: February 7th, 2017 5:22 PM Author: Slap-happy queen of the night
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Date: February 7th, 2017 11:31 AM Author: Jet lascivious stock car pozpig
She's always liked ALPHA bros who dad her around:
"She enrolled at Syracuse, majored in political science, and fell in love with a lax bro who knew how to encourage this fatherless daughter to be a winner. “You got this, little girl,” he would tell her when she set out to claim another prize."
Trump knew exactly what he was doing.
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