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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:17 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison Then disguise their failures with ..."yeah I used to work for a major corporation, but then realized there is more to life than just money..." When in reality they would have loved to stay at their company if they had gotten promoted, gotten a raise, been able to compete with co-workers... These ppl are filth and think they're above everyone. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:07 PM Author: overrated filthpig national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656885) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:20 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655789) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:21 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655797) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: trip state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656495) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:55 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656401) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:55 PM Author: anal brunch (3L who will last 2 years tops in biglaw) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656407) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:57 PM Author: judgmental autistic base goal in life he's not even in law school anymore iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656418) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:26 PM Author: onyx rebellious stain LJL
He also couldn't even get into a good lawl school |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:58 PM Author: appetizing dark police squad giraffe hi, i sucked at that life, dropped out, went into academia and have a life most people envy at 1/3 the salary. sup? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656424) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:13 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison You sound butthurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656491) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 10:07 PM Author: appetizing dark police squad giraffe no...i sucked at being a lawyer. if i stuck it out, i would have been shitcanned and miserable. now im pretty happy even if i'm relatively broke. these are the tradeoffs one makes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658466) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: clear factory reset button There's definitely truth to this especially in law. 100% of associates would grind for 10 years if there was a guaranteed v10 equity partnership at the end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656496) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:18 PM Author: Vivacious Parlour Jesus no. Any job where value is priced in hours spent is horrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656521) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:24 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656557) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:58 PM Author: Adulterous stage As a practical matter, "hours" = # of hours reported = # of hours ppl think they can get away with reporting = in expectation, the max # of hours that can be reported without being flagged by whatever fraud detection devices one reasonably expects will be used.
Hence it would be perfectly reasonable for a firm to separate their tangible work production, from their hours reporting. And it is just as rational to do this on an individual level.
Yet people grind themselves down trying to robotically meet a rigid hours hours requirement, when they could invest in increasing their personal efficiency, meet the facetime requirements, and then report the same number of hours.
Surely this is due to the sort of childish manichean thinking that runs rampant among lawyers. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:01 PM Author: Adulterous stage IOW hours based billing just means that INDIVIDUALS, not firms and clients, get to reap the benefits of innovation (real efficiency gains). Hence if anything it is a cause for celebration if you are an innovative individual - you can get a steady paycheck and advance without getting more work heaped on you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656852) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:10 PM Author: Vivacious Parlour Law as a field is dominated by some of the worst incentive structures I have ever seen.
I remember trying to convince my firm to drop my hours requirement in exchange for bringing in additional work (since I was better at building a book than grinding away). They weren't willing to compromise.
I left. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 8:22 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32657774) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:30 PM Author: onyx rebellious stain There's just too much grinding and exhaustion in biglaw practice....the detail orientedness is awful and exhausting, the ASAP fire drills, the on call, the hours, etc.
Also it literally wastes away your entire youth. Most senior biglawyers are disgusting physical specimens of obesity, baldness, etc. ....so gross. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:19 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison (literal wagecuck) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656529) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:32 PM Author: burgundy rough-skinned garrison Calm down, Cohen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656622) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:21 PM Author: Fishy goyim a lot of times when people say "i hate something", it's usually they hating something about themselves which they project to something else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656544) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: Bronze old irish cottage You know what it takes to sell real estate? It takes brass balls to sell real estate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658850) |
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Date: February 20th, 2017 2:34 AM Author: irate market Reminder. The Op made several posts that he was gunning hard for big law. Even with affirmative action this spic couldn't cop biglaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659805) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:27 PM Author: onyx rebellious stain Didn't he attend a TTT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669784) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:28 PM Author: onyx rebellious stain This is dumb, bro. Many biglawyers drop out because they come from family money or married rich and no longer need to grind. Reminder: not working for money >>>> working for money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669790) |
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"If the job would have been more psychologically, socially, and financially rewarding, the cost-benefit analysis would have changed."
Great insight.
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