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Liberals say Immigrant crime rate is lower than native-born...true?

is this true? what is it based on?
odious legend
  02/22/17
based on fake academic "research."
excitant deranged stage
  02/23/17
It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.
lascivious messiness brunch
  02/22/17
No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo
laughsome cuckoldry trailer park
  02/22/17
THIS
aggressive selfie fortuitous meteor
  02/22/17
Rofl
Ebony Lay
  02/23/17
It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the...
Razzle cordovan foreskin
  02/22/17
...
aphrodisiac church voyeur
  02/22/17
also, does this take into account country of origin?
odious legend
  02/22/17
I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.
Razzle cordovan foreskin
  02/22/17
Wait. What? Explain how you believe this: "Trump has...
maize doctorate
  02/23/17
It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tri...
supple electric furnace stag film
  02/23/17
is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget
cerebral ocher personal credit line
  02/23/17
You're such a retard paulie
cracking piazza indirect expression
  02/23/17
...
Black Round Eye Headpube
  02/23/17
you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the...
Out-of-control corner trump supporter
  02/22/17
I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They...
Provocative spot
  02/22/17
...
Diverse pontificating forum
  02/23/17
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminal...
Talented space tattoo
  02/22/17
Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel sa...
twinkling bespoke base internal respiration
  02/23/17
Not when you control for blacks
Diverse pontificating forum
  02/23/17
Libs are deranged
cracking piazza indirect expression
  02/23/17
Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought ove...
Wine Background Story
  02/23/17
Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself ...
Big field police squad
  02/23/17
Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crim...
blathering indian lodge
  02/23/17


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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: odious legend

is this true? what is it based on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680598)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:50 AM
Author: excitant deranged stage

based on fake academic "research."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683367)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:22 PM
Author: lascivious messiness brunch

It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680616)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: laughsome cuckoldry trailer park

No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680622)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: aggressive selfie fortuitous meteor

THIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680721)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Ebony Lay

Rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683425)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:24 PM
Author: Razzle cordovan foreskin

It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the lying liberals' game.

They intentionally conflate LEGAL with ILLEGAL immigrants.

Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one. So the stat that "immigrants" have a lower crime rate than native born, even if true, can be tossed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680625)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: aphrodisiac church voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680681)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: odious legend

also, does this take into account country of origin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680685)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: Razzle cordovan foreskin

I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680710)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: maize doctorate

Wait. What?

Explain how you believe this: "Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682426)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:39 AM
Author: supple electric furnace stag film

It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tried to ban green card holders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682448)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: cerebral ocher personal credit line

is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682931)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:46 AM
Author: cracking piazza indirect expression

You're such a retard paulie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683031)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: Black Round Eye Headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683376)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:30 PM
Author: Out-of-control corner trump supporter

you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the immigration population by national origin and legal status and compare each chunk against each other chunk for such a broad measure to have meaning. there is no such class as "immigrants" for something like crime stats.

which groups of immigrants?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680701)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: Provocative spot

I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They're all hidden behind ridiculous Internet paywalls. I was often only the sixth person to read them.

It turns out that neither Piquero nor Bersani compared immigrant crime to "the overall population" -- as the British Guardian recently claimed in an article purporting to prove Donald Trump wrong. Rather, they compare immigrants' crime rate to the crime rate of America's most criminally inclined subgroups.

Thus, for example, once you get past the paywall, you will find that Piquero and Bersani's joint study, "Comparing Patterns and Predictors of Immigrant Offending Among a Sample of Adjudicated Youth," used as its base group "adolescents who were found guilty of a serious offense."

THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF AMERICANS! It's a representative sample of teenagers who are convicted criminals.

Similarly, professor Bersani's oft-cited, but never-read study, "An Examination of First and Second Generation Immigrant Offending Trajectories," looked at a population group that included "an over-sample of Hispanic and African-American youth."

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-07-15.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680718)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: Diverse pontificating forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682929)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:36 PM
Author: Talented space tattoo

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states

You can see various rhetorical devices used in the link above. Depends a lot on spurious associations (between 1990 and 2013, crime decreased, but immigration greatly increased, ergo immigrants commit less crime) and apples to oranges comparisons. Something to keep in mind is that mean U.S. crime rates include blacks, who commit vastly disproportionate amounts of crime. So comparing immigrants to citizens as a group fails to take into account that immigrant crime rate is higher than white crime rate specifically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680757)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:29 AM
Author: twinkling bespoke base internal respiration

Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel safer in a white neighborhood or in some LA "barrio". Trust your gut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682436)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:21 AM
Author: Diverse pontificating forum

Not when you control for blacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682925)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:48 AM
Author: cracking piazza indirect expression

Libs are deranged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683037)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:41 AM
Author: Wine Background Story

Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought over on H1B visas and every Azn brought over on a student visa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683326)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:45 AM
Author: Big field police squad

Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself is pretty meaningless since it includes vastly different groups of people coming here for vastly different reasons. Yet shitlibs still love talking about "immigrants".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683345)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: blathering indian lodge

Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crime are probably the ones looting, burning and raping now for no reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683371)