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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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curious doobsian orchestra pit turdskin
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
bat shit crazy people who are hurt institution
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
cerebral business firm
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
curious doobsian orchestra pit turdskin
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
bat shit crazy people who are hurt institution
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
cerebral business firm
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
cerebral business firm
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
crystalline titillating point
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curious doobsian orchestra pit turdskin
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curious doobsian orchestra pit turdskin
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Fighting Floppy Dragon Alpha
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Geriatric diverse state
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
arrogant site
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Geriatric diverse state
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Tripping fanboi
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button
  03/18/17
what's that?
talking scarlet set
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Pungent Area
  04/27/17
explain
Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Pungent Area
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
comical sanctuary
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Massive flesh messiness
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
exciting internet-worthy house rigor
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
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first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
adventurous hunting ground
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: curious doobsian orchestra pit turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: bat shit crazy people who are hurt institution

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: cerebral business firm

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: curious doobsian orchestra pit turdskin

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: bat shit crazy people who are hurt institution

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: cerebral business firm

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: cerebral business firm

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: crystalline titillating point

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: curious doobsian orchestra pit turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: curious doobsian orchestra pit turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Fighting Floppy Dragon Alpha

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Geriatric diverse state

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: arrogant site

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Geriatric diverse state

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Tripping fanboi

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: talking scarlet set

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: arousing plaza

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: vigorous address antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: startling office

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Pungent Area

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Pungent Area

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: comical sanctuary

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Massive flesh messiness

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: exciting internet-worthy house rigor

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: adventurous hunting ground

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: buff theater

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: buff theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Slippery Mind-boggling Nursing Home Factory Reset Button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)