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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Stirring Orchid Home Deer Antler
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Cracking codepig
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Shimmering Antidepressant Drug Prole
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Stirring Orchid Home Deer Antler
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Cracking codepig
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Shimmering Antidepressant Drug Prole
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
mind-boggling school ladyboy
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Shimmering Antidepressant Drug Prole
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
chest-beating navy son of senegal giraffe
  03/18/17
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Stirring Orchid Home Deer Antler
  03/18/17
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Stirring Orchid Home Deer Antler
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
lilac base coldplay fan
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
cerise alcoholic liquid oxygen coffee pot
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
nubile candlestick maker hospital
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
cerise alcoholic liquid oxygen coffee pot
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Zippy field turdskin
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
mind-boggling school ladyboy
  03/18/17
what's that?
dashing den trump supporter
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
galvanic locale
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mind-boggling school ladyboy
  03/19/17
tmf
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mind-boggling school ladyboy
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Aquamarine gunner ticket booth
  04/27/17
explain
mind-boggling school ladyboy
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Aquamarine gunner ticket booth
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Topaz station
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Fragrant azure potus kitty cat
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
demanding idiot
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
mind-boggling school ladyboy
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Abusive salmon crackhouse azn
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Stirring Orchid Home Deer Antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Cracking codepig

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Shimmering Antidepressant Drug Prole

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Stirring Orchid Home Deer Antler

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Cracking codepig

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Shimmering Antidepressant Drug Prole

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Shimmering Antidepressant Drug Prole

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: chest-beating navy son of senegal giraffe

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Stirring Orchid Home Deer Antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Stirring Orchid Home Deer Antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: lilac base coldplay fan

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: cerise alcoholic liquid oxygen coffee pot

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: nubile candlestick maker hospital

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: cerise alcoholic liquid oxygen coffee pot

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Zippy field turdskin

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: dashing den trump supporter

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: galvanic locale

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Nudist menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Know-it-all 180 Fanboi Theater

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Aquamarine gunner ticket booth

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Aquamarine gunner ticket booth

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Topaz station

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Fragrant azure potus kitty cat

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: demanding idiot

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Abusive salmon crackhouse azn

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Irradiated Jet-lagged Clown Psychic

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Irradiated Jet-lagged Clown Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: mind-boggling school ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)