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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Zombie-like weed whacker cruise ship
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Boyish Flatulent Trust Fund Tattoo
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Blathering elite roommate cuck
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Zombie-like weed whacker cruise ship
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Boyish Flatulent Trust Fund Tattoo
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Blathering elite roommate cuck
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
iridescent locale water buffalo
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Blathering elite roommate cuck
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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  03/18/17
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Zombie-like weed whacker cruise ship
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Supple sneaky criminal boistinker
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
adventurous mexican corner
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Vivacious parlor headpube
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
adventurous mexican corner
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Fantasy-prone Crackhouse
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
iridescent locale water buffalo
  03/18/17
what's that?
Flickering useless brakes haunted graveyard
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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iridescent locale water buffalo
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Narrow-minded Milk Associate
  04/27/17
explain
iridescent locale water buffalo
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Narrow-minded Milk Associate
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Fear-inspiring Famous Landscape Painting
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
mind-boggling hall
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Wine Irradiated Brunch Toilet Seat
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
iridescent locale water buffalo
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
dull self-absorbed sweet tailpipe
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Zombie-like weed whacker cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Boyish Flatulent Trust Fund Tattoo

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Blathering elite roommate cuck

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Zombie-like weed whacker cruise ship

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Boyish Flatulent Trust Fund Tattoo

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Blathering elite roommate cuck

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Blathering elite roommate cuck

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: copper naked center pozpig

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Zombie-like weed whacker cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Zombie-like weed whacker cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Supple sneaky criminal boistinker

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: adventurous mexican corner

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Vivacious parlor headpube

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: adventurous mexican corner

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Crackhouse

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Flickering useless brakes haunted graveyard

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: light rebellious factory reset button locus

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Sepia school kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: twinkling frozen step-uncle's house sandwich

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Milk Associate

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Narrow-minded Milk Associate

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Famous Landscape Painting

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: mind-boggling hall

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Wine Irradiated Brunch Toilet Seat

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: dull self-absorbed sweet tailpipe

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Kink-friendly den

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Kink-friendly den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: iridescent locale water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)