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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Canary roast beef
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
razzle orchid multi-billionaire background story
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Slate titillating boiling water really tough guy
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Canary roast beef
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
razzle orchid multi-billionaire background story
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Slate titillating boiling water really tough guy
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Slate titillating boiling water really tough guy
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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Canary roast beef
  03/18/17
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Canary roast beef
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
learning disabled new version
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Abnormal jet dingle berry
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Alcoholic Point Candlestick Maker
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Abnormal jet dingle berry
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
beta excitant heaven trust fund
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship
  03/18/17
what's that?
underhanded 180 potus
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Motley Emerald Black Woman Space
  04/27/17
explain
Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Motley Emerald Black Woman Space
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Exciting medicated school cafeteria kitty
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
turquoise sickened kitty cat
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
cocky station gaping
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
odious hall
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Canary roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: razzle orchid multi-billionaire background story

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Slate titillating boiling water really tough guy

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Canary roast beef

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: razzle orchid multi-billionaire background story

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Slate titillating boiling water really tough guy

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Slate titillating boiling water really tough guy

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: bearded organic girlfriend coldplay fan

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Canary roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Canary roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: learning disabled new version

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Abnormal jet dingle berry

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Alcoholic Point Candlestick Maker

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Abnormal jet dingle berry

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: beta excitant heaven trust fund

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: underhanded 180 potus

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Geriatric queen of the night

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: spectacular place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: misunderstood cracking kitchen sex offender

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Motley Emerald Black Woman Space

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Motley Emerald Black Woman Space

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Exciting medicated school cafeteria kitty

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: turquoise sickened kitty cat

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: cocky station gaping

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: odious hall

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: brilliant travel guidebook

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: brilliant travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Concupiscible dull azn cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)