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plz explain how this results is good for libs long term?
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:32 PM Author: fragrant doctorate point the two options from here are:
i) repeal at some point before midterms but with significant concessions to these freedom clowns, i.e. bill is much further right.
ii) GOP leaves obamacare completely intact up until a point in the future at which it loses unified government and really can't do anything.
seems to me that #1 is way more likely, and dems completely refusing to compete with the far right be the junior partner to the mainstream GOP will give trump political cover to make concessions to freedoms that might not have otherwise flown with his base. no? |
Date: March 24th, 2017 4:35 PM Author: Razzmatazz dead garrison preventive strike if they repeal obamacare with even more concessions to the freedom nuts, it will be a bloodbath. the gop retook the house in 2012 by claiming obamacare was going to cut medicare. the majority of the country, including lots of stupid gop proles and olds, want more government welfare, not less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908775) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:36 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration They all voted for a repeal. Over and over again. Just give the people what they want. These are representatives, not parents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908788) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: Razzmatazz dead garrison preventive strike the people are stupid. they want unlimited healthcare at no cost to themselves, lower taxes, and no pesky regulations telling them what they can or can't do. the gop won elections by spinning a fantastic future in which these things would happen, so it was an easy sell. if the gop was honest, they would've said tough shit, a lot of you poor sick people are mooches and aren't entitled to suck on society's teat if you can't contribute. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908868) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:45 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration Who says they want it at no cost? Medicare exists and isn't going anywhere.
"The people are stupid" Well maybe so. But so are the politicians. The people are the ones really in charge here |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:47 PM Author: Razzmatazz dead garrison preventive strike medicare is a massive transfer program from the working young to boomers. they're getting a ton of free medical care, but trick themselves into thinking they "deserve" it because they "paid in to the system." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908909) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:49 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration Obviously, but no ones talking about gutting Medicare though. They could cut the obamacare regulations and get Medicare going like it was before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908937) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:38 PM Author: fragrant doctorate point so if more concessions to freedom nuts is off table, then what? try a new one aimed at getting moderate dems? seems impossible, and shelving obamacare repeal altogether seems like as big a bloodbath as a harder-right bill. shelving can't be spun. a 3,000 page bill that has bright spots for everyone but is shitty overall can (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908819) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:35 PM Author: sticky obsidian french chef or
iii) trump does nothing until 2018, they lose one or both chambers of the House, and he makes concessions not to the right, but to the liberal left with something like single payer that most of the country prefers anyway.
coasts to reelection. |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:37 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration Yeah man I can totally see the "liberal left" joining with Trump to pass popular legislation. Great insight here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908804) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:39 PM Author: Big University Useless Brakes Trump only cares about winning and Dems won't turn down single payer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908839) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: sticky obsidian french chef This. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908845) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration Of course they would, if Trump purposed it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908849) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: sticky obsidian french chef That's what I said, you dumb fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908860) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration Dems would turn down anything trump purposed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908869) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:57 PM Author: Supple light gunner hell tHIS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32909044) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: sticky obsidian french chef you're a noted retard, so pardon if I refuse to engage you here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908842) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration you're a pretty standard 105iq lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908857) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:45 PM Author: Poppy Kitty Persian if that were the case, he'd still have 20 iq points on you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908897) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:50 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration yeah probably. I'm one of the low IQ racist trumpenproles fucklaw recruited here from stormfront after rach opened up registration. I have a hard time keeping up with the high IQ arguments genius libs like you around here like to use (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908946) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: Poppy Kitty Persian glad you're finally figuring it out, man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908964) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:55 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration It's just really great for a guy like me to get to poast alongside luminaries like yourself, Obeezy, WLMAS, JJC etc. Great company. Keep up the good work. Everyone likes you and you aren't shitting up the board at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32909008) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: bright soul-stirring meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908844) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:39 PM Author: fragrant doctorate point yeah trump could let libs write the bill themselves and there's still no way they'd vote for it precisely because of your conclusion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908837) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: sticky obsidian french chef The only hope Democrats ever have of passing single payer is via a Republican president. This isn't controversial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908854) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: drab laughsome location internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908862) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: bright soul-stirring meetinghouse Lmao u fucking idiot zero chance trump and reptiles collude w libs for single payer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908853) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: sticky obsidian french chef Yes, you're right shithead, Trump is a textbook establishment Republican. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908863) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:36 PM Author: Stirring Canary Mexican Trump now = stench of failure, plus doomed presidency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908794) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 4:39 PM Author: Cracking citrine corner pozpig Trump supposedly just said it failed b/c Dems wouldn't support it. My guess is they let Obamacare implode and blame stubborn Dems and hope they reap a 60-vote majority? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32908836) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 8:37 PM Author: irradiated hot home electric furnace It's going on seven years. The idea of some sort of imminent implosion is preposterous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32910688) |
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Date: March 24th, 2017 8:47 PM Author: boyish french dilemma lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563189&forum_id=2#32910765) |