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Client demanded phone records to audit our billing

Regional midlaw. Major client has asked that we hand over ph...
Doobsian Curious Church Building
  05/18/17
Why would you have any? Verizon keeps them for 18 months now...
idiotic odious skinny woman
  05/18/17
YFWGI
greedy rehab
  05/18/17
is that even permissible under client confidence rules?
aphrodisiac pungent laser beams
  05/18/17
this is why any good billing entry with a phone call also ha...
Seedy fragrant mexican
  05/18/17
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translucent know-it-all business firm goyim
  05/18/17
If there's any discrepancies just say you included time spen...
Bossy federal sex offender
  05/18/17
Their software has a metric for that and flags people who al...
Doobsian Curious Church Building
  05/18/17
why doesn't the client have their own phone records if th...
razzle school
  05/18/17
They started comparing our time entries to their phone logs ...
Doobsian Curious Church Building
  05/18/17
Bullshit.
Cerise Space
  05/18/17
Not flame.
Doobsian Curious Church Building
  05/18/17
This is why it's best to never bill just a call. It's always...
cruel-hearted bisexual corner
  05/18/17
I've heard that some bill review software picks up on "...
Titillating location toaster
  05/18/17
TIMEBUILDER DESTROY TIMEBUILDER RUIN
Anal stead
  05/18/17
(In the voice of Grimlock from Transformers?)
Titillating location toaster
  05/18/17
...
Anal stead
  05/18/17
Insurance company?
Titillating location toaster
  05/18/17
Yes
Doobsian Curious Church Building
  05/18/17
Yes
Doobsian Curious Church Building
  05/18/17
Insane but this is just flame to push the bill down
Haunting soul-stirring sanctuary rigor
  05/18/17
I've never been hired by an insurance company, but I've seen...
Titillating location toaster
  05/18/17
Yes they do lots of the more questionable tactics, including...
Haunting soul-stirring sanctuary rigor
  05/18/17


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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:10 AM
Author: Doobsian Curious Church Building

Regional midlaw. Major client has asked that we hand over phone records. Apparently so their billing software can check it against our time entries.

FMA this "profession" somehow keeps getting worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333478)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: idiotic odious skinny woman

Why would you have any? Verizon keeps them for 18 months now I think but that's just another reason to make all calls by VOIP which is what every firm worth a shit does now. There should be no minute log with VOIP if done right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333496)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:20 AM
Author: greedy rehab

YFWGI

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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:11 AM
Author: aphrodisiac pungent laser beams

is that even permissible under client confidence rules?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333486)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:12 AM
Author: Seedy fragrant mexican

this is why any good billing entry with a phone call also has at least one other task listed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333491)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 7:04 AM
Author: translucent know-it-all business firm goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33334175)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:12 AM
Author: Bossy federal sex offender

If there's any discrepancies just say you included time spent "preparing" for the call in the entry - I do that all the time to get some extra padding in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333492)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:53 AM
Author: Doobsian Curious Church Building

Their software has a metric for that and flags people who allocate time this way (in excess of the call time). We're already careful about keeping time accurate for calls with their inhouse people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333643)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: razzle school

why doesn't the client have their own phone records

if those calls are internal then why would they trust ur phone records not to be padded too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333498)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: Doobsian Curious Church Building

They started comparing our time entries to their phone logs about six months ago. Now they want to check our calls to opposing counsel, experts, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333633)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 2:38 AM
Author: Cerise Space

Bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333839)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 2:54 AM
Author: Doobsian Curious Church Building

Not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333883)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 2:59 AM
Author: cruel-hearted bisexual corner

This is why it's best to never bill just a call. It's always prep work or after work on the same line item

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333892)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:02 AM
Author: Titillating location toaster

I've heard that some bill review software picks up on "and" to crack down on combined tasks.

"Call with Expert McExpert, preceded by review of expert report (0.5)"

Your move, software!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333896)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:32 AM
Author: Anal stead

TIMEBUILDER DESTROY

TIMEBUILDER RUIN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333946)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:49 AM
Author: Titillating location toaster

(In the voice of Grimlock from Transformers?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333971)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:58 AM
Author: Anal stead



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Date: May 18th, 2017 2:59 AM
Author: Titillating location toaster

Insurance company?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333890)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:27 AM
Author: Doobsian Curious Church Building

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333937)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:28 AM
Author: Doobsian Curious Church Building

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333940)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:29 AM
Author: Haunting soul-stirring sanctuary rigor

Insane but this is just flame to push the bill down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333942)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:33 AM
Author: Titillating location toaster

I've never been hired by an insurance company, but I've seen billings to them in bad faith cases where the insured assigned its claims to my client.

Insurance defense firms seem to do just fine with making up for the low rates and oppressive rules by billing more time with more lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333948)



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Date: May 18th, 2017 3:35 AM
Author: Haunting soul-stirring sanctuary rigor

Yes they do lots of the more questionable tactics, including billing for multi clients at once.

Fee audits are nightmares generally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3618200&forum_id=2#33333951)