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Does Lance "Rafa" Nadal Now Pass Sampras On GOAT List? #ironside

5 WTF vs. 0 WTF is still pretty huge. plus the #1 and ye#1 s...
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i dont think 15 vs 14 alone puts him ahead especially with t...
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does the fact that lance is the goat on clay make him a one ...
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in that era W/USO/WTF were highly correlative. sampras wa...
Baron Mark von Ironside
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the field was stronger on clay generally in the 90s. other t...
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don't make excuses. every other open era champion with 6+ m...
Baron Mark von Ironside
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cr. also the spic early rd fodder for lance to "beat&qu...
West White
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no because like i said hes still won MULTIPLE wimbledons and...
the goys are back in town
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i don't care much about the weeks at No. 1. as i've said, N...
Baron Mark von Ironside
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it's hard to compare masters titles pre mid-2000s. there wer...
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he's won IW 3 times, Cincy, Canada, and Queens. All huge ti...
Baron Mark von Ironside
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bu bu but sampras won rome once!
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I do give him credit for that, though he beat 2 unseeded guy...
Baron Mark von Ironside
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lances career accomplishments more mud based than ever
West White
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Rafa grabs the mic at Chatrier "Pete you faggot lol&quo...
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What about the 2 gold medals and 4 Davis Cup. The singles go...
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Yeah, good points. Sorry Pistol!
Baron Mark von Ironside
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rofl'ing at this DAVIS COUPE trolling. so lance needs beaner...
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Agassi, one of the few players who have won the career grand...
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that a personal thing -- agassi's dad was an olympic athlete...
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except the OSG is a top accomplishment. sorry breh
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Dupa
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-The singles gold medal > WTF lmao no one gave a fuck a...
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Tough to say. I would probably put Sampras slightly ahead. D...
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Date: June 11th, 2017 10:53 AM
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5 WTF vs. 0 WTF is still pretty huge. plus the #1 and ye#1 stats -- pete with double (141 vs 286) #1 and ye#1 (3 vs 6).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527171)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:12 AM
Author: the goys are back in town

i dont think 15 vs 14 alone puts him ahead especially with the stats in OP, but the fact that lance has won multiple slams on all surfaces along with being the GOAT on clay puts him in front of pete

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527294)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:15 AM
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does the fact that lance is the goat on clay make him a one spic pony and hurt his legacy? sampras is tied for the most wimbledons AND us opens AND 2nd in WTF

pete's clay struggles do hurt him tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527309)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:17 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

in that era W/USO/WTF were highly correlative.

sampras was anemic on clay, whereas Nadal has 2 Wimbys (5 total finals) and 2 USOs (3 finals). pete had a single semi at RG, and a bad record at the other big clay tourneys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527328)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:22 AM
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the field was stronger on clay generally in the 90s. other than djoker and fed, lance didnt have a field of legit clay opponents. the 90s had clay court specialists bc the tour was year around clay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527356)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:24 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

don't make excuses. every other open era champion with 6+ majors has a better RG record. even Becker and Edberg.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527363)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: West White

cr. also the spic early rd fodder for lance to "beat"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527412)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:35 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527422)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: the goys are back in town

no because like i said hes still won MULTIPLE wimbledons and hard court slams.

undisputed GOAT on clay who has also beat everyone on other surfaces>>>>"in the GOAT discussion" for wimbledon and US open while sucking dick at roland garros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527344)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

i don't care much about the weeks at No. 1. as i've said, Nadal was behind Fed for some crazy amount of weeks, easily over 200, and if you take the position that Fed > Sampras, it's hard to ding Nadal for that vs. Sampras, especially when Sampras' biggest rival was a total head case.

Regarding the WTF, I could just as easily make the case for Nadal with his 30 Masters titles. if you're preferring the WTF the way you do, you're kinda elevating it to major status, or at the very least you're giving a surface preference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527308)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:24 AM
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it's hard to compare masters titles pre mid-2000s. there werent 9 of them and they werent mandatory. there's gotta be a better metric of "big titles" to compare pre mid-2000's masters to recent masters title counts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527364)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

he's won IW 3 times, Cincy, Canada, and Queens. All huge titles in Pete's day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527379)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:28 AM
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bu bu but sampras won rome once!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527386)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

I do give him credit for that, though he beat 2 unseeded guys and then Becker in the QF/SF/F

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527398)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:27 AM
Author: West White

lances career accomplishments more mud based than ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527383)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:27 AM
Author: Judas Jones

Rafa grabs the mic at Chatrier "Pete you faggot lol"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527385)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: West White



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527387)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:28 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527389)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527400)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 5:33 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#35597540)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:23 PM
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What about the 2 gold medals and 4 Davis Cup. The singles gold medal > WTF and he has 2 WTF finals still...plus a bunch of hard court masters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527747)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

Yeah, good points. Sorry Pistol!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527753)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:25 PM
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rofl'ing at this DAVIS COUPE trolling. so lance needs beaners like fernando verdasco to make him the GOAT?

tennis wasnt a serious olympic sport in sampras' day. he only even played once -- in barca in 92 on clay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527768)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

Agassi, one of the few players who have won the career grand slam, says the OSG is one of his greatest accomplishments. i'm sure he'd rank it above his WTF.

i'm sure Murray would do the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527784)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:31 PM
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that a personal thing -- agassi's dad was an olympic athlete, murrayfag winning in his home country, etc

im sure xo fed is very proud of his 9 basel titles. doesnt make it objectively a top accomplishment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527809)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: Baron Mark von Ironside

except the OSG is a top accomplishment. sorry breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527821)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Dupa



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527836)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: West White

-The singles gold medal > WTF

lmao no one gave a fuck about the olympics even ten yrs ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527783)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Dupa

Tough to say. I would probably put Sampras slightly ahead. Dominant on 2 surfaces and extremely long reign as world #1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527835)



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Date: June 11th, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: \ \ / /_ ~ _\ \ / / (*)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3643669&forum_id=2#33527841)