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Otto bro tried to hang himself and failed

Just turned himself into a veggie, this is why the family op...
Histrionic Honey-headed Resort Queen Of The Night
  06/21/17
(N. Korean troll)
disrespectful saffron corner dog poop
  06/21/17
twist: there's no way of knowing that UNLESS they performed ...
Twinkling hospital
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Hard to explain the brain damage otherwise. The doctors prob...
Talking native
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Histrionic Honey-headed Resort Queen Of The Night
  06/21/17
there's no way the brain damage could've been caused by guar...
Twinkling hospital
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Possible but inconsistent with their prior treatment of whit...
Talking native
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indigo brethren station
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The reality is it's pretty unlikely they were intentionally ...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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Couldn't find that after a quick search.
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Boyish center preventive strike
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what would the autopsy have revealed that the docs couldn't ...
White titillating den really tough guy
  06/21/17
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6516732
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer
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Boyish center preventive strike
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Bullshit. Ive seen CSI. They can zoom in and do 3d models of...
Histrionic Honey-headed Resort Queen Of The Night
  06/21/17
In other words, you were the lowest of the grunts in your la...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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And yet here you are in shitlaw.
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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no, youre not.
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indigo brethren station
  06/25/17
pretty sure he was an EMT at one point
violent trip menage
  06/21/17
EMTs are often good people. but EMT training is very sparse ...
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer thinking EMT training curricu...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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^ 1200 SAT -> FL Shitlawyer trying to insinuate that EMTs...
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"I probably have the most medical training on xo, excep...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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lmao at deluded 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
  06/25/17
You're done here. Stop posturing.
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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^ 1200 SAT -> unselfaware FL shitlawyer who got pwned rep...
ruby dashing gas station
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hmmm interesting but i don't know nearly enough about this s...
White titillating den really tough guy
  06/21/17
"Injury was largely confined to the CA1 layer of the hi...
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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only on xo does a 1200 SAT FL shitlawyer second guess pathol...
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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^ 1200 SAT argument
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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Well, first of all, the poasted quotes from the path guy are...
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer's idea of an argument
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“When you don’t do that, then families often linger with nag...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer moving the goalpoast from why...
ruby dashing gas station
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tyft
White titillating den really tough guy
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“The most important thing I think it could tell us is the ge...
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"Weedn said an autopsy may also help to rule out causes...
ruby dashing gas station
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Boyish center preventive strike
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^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer
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if this were true, why would nk make up the ridiculous botul...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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you could explain anything with a stupid argument like that
aromatic snowy principal's office
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You're talking to a 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer
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White titillating den really tough guy
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Talking native
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it's their MO they could have come up with a bunch of muc...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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(Guy wondering why Trump would say he fired Comey due to Rod...
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There was speculation almost immediately that there was a ga...
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North Korea is known to do asphyxiation torture to prisoners...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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This is likely true. He was blubbering on tv at one point.
Sepia self-centered mother goal in life
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ruby dashing gas station
  06/25/17
Why make up a botulism story and sleeping pill scenario if t...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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I think he was oxygen deprived, but I don't think it was sel...
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I was actually in agreement with the op until I read this. T...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum "Use by co...
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Boyish center preventive strike
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This pretty much explains why they were going for a drug/tox...
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holy shit
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Talking native
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Actually, I think he succeeded.
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It was fan death.
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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:03 AM
Author: Histrionic Honey-headed Resort Queen Of The Night

Just turned himself into a veggie, this is why the family opted not to do an autopsy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607316)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 6:14 AM
Author: disrespectful saffron corner dog poop

(N. Korean troll)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607536)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:04 AM
Author: Twinkling hospital

twist: there's no way of knowing that UNLESS they performed an autopsy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607321)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:05 AM
Author: Talking native

Hard to explain the brain damage otherwise. The doctors probably told the family privately to avoid (perceived) embarrassment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607325)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:08 AM
Author: Histrionic Honey-headed Resort Queen Of The Night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607328)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:13 AM
Author: Twinkling hospital

there's no way the brain damage could've been caused by guards choking him out, or asphyxiation due to some unimaginable torture or sadistic experimentation? keep in mind that we're speculating about the conduct of an alien insect species, and not actual human beings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607338)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:24 AM
Author: Talking native

Possible but inconsistent with their prior treatment of white people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607361)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:43 PM
Author: indigo brethren station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33614019)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:44 AM
Author: Chartreuse Spectacular Tanning Salon Legal Warrant

The reality is it's pretty unlikely they were intentionally going to go medieval on him. Something happened that wasn't supposed to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635502)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:46 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635515)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: Chartreuse Spectacular Tanning Salon Legal Warrant

Couldn't find that after a quick search.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635523)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:54 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635547)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:15 AM
Author: White titillating den really tough guy

what would the autopsy have revealed that the docs couldn't see on MRIs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607343)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6516732

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607349)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607356)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:24 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607360)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:28 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607369)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:31 AM
Author: Histrionic Honey-headed Resort Queen Of The Night

Bullshit. Ive seen CSI. They can zoom in and do 3d models of this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607374)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:33 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

In other words, you were the lowest of the grunts in your lab.

Like I said, 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607379)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:44 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607407)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:51 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

And yet here you are in shitlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607429)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:55 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607442)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:43 AM
Author: exciting hot locale

no, youre not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607761)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613719)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 9:08 AM
Author: indigo brethren station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33636136)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 7:43 AM
Author: violent trip menage

pretty sure he was an EMT at one point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607633)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:49 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

EMTs are often good people. but EMT training is very sparse on pathology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607777)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613717)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:02 PM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer thinking EMT training curriculum is a state secret

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613738)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:41 PM
Author: Appetizing Plaza Black Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33614007)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:43 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635495)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:46 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

^ 1200 SAT -> FL Shitlawyer trying to insinuate that EMTs are trained in histopathology

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635514)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:55 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635551)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:58 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

"I probably have the most medical training on xo, except for the doctor who posts here."

^ 1200 SAT -> deluded FL shitlawyer whose grandiosity never ceases to amaze

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635559)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:59 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635562)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:05 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

lmao at deluded 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635588)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:08 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635597)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:10 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

You're done here. Stop posturing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635603)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:11 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635605)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:13 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

^ 1200 SAT -> unselfaware FL shitlawyer who got pwned repeatedly for goalpost relocation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635610)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:53 AM
Author: White titillating den really tough guy

hmmm interesting but i don't know nearly enough about this stuff to evaluate it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607435)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:01 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

"Injury was largely confined to the CA1 layer of the hippocampus.": hippocampus is especially sensitive to oxygen deprivation and atrophies in hypoxic state.

"In both experimental models two types of cell change were prominent: coagulative cell change which was restricted to neurons, and edematous cell change which was largely confined to astrocytes.": neurons clump together, while a non-neuronal type of cells called astrocytes swell in hypoxia.

"Studies on cerebral microcirculation revealed a close relationship between areas of reduced flow and areas with structural damage. Cytochemical demonstration of subcellular calcium indicated an early and important redistribution of this cation, indicative for toxic calcium overload in the cytosol.": you see higher than normal levels of calcium inside cells.

It is true that the prolonged coma could make pathologic analysis difficult, but as the quoted pathologist says, an autopsy could have led to either positive information confirming a cause, or negative information to rule out botulism, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607448)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:05 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607454)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

only on xo does a 1200 SAT FL shitlawyer second guess pathology attendings on autopsies lmao.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607456)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:11 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607462)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:13 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

^ 1200 SAT argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607463)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:14 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607465)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:17 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

Well, first of all, the poasted quotes from the path guy are generalizable statements.

Second, even with reduced chances of finding satisfactory evidence, an autopsy is much likelier to yield useful info than no autopsy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607467)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:18 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607469)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:19 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer's idea of an argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607470)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:22 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607473)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:25 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

“When you don’t do that, then families often linger with nagging questions that may have been resolved at autopsy,” he said, adding that examinations in this case could also be important for international affairs. “An autopsy is the way that you are best able to get good evidence. That is, it matters.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607476)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607487)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:47 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer moving the goalpoast from why autopsy won't yield meaningful info to other extra-medical reasons for not having an autopsy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607774)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: White titillating den really tough guy

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607457)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:52 PM
Author: ruby dashing gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613674)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:20 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607352)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:44 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

“The most important thing I think it could tell us is the general nature of what caused the brain damage and it might give us some idea if it was continuing or in the past,” said Victor Weedn, a forensic pathologist and professor of forensic sciences at George Washington University.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/06/20/what-an-autopsy-could-tell-us-about-otto-warmbiers-death/?utm_term=.3f98bb340aad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607406)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:47 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607418)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:48 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

"Weedn said an autopsy may also help to rule out causes, including trauma or infection. In some cases, he said, autopsies can help find discrepancies in stories."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607426)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:58 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607445)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:02 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607450)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:17 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607346)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:32 AM
Author: aromatic snowy principal's office

if this were true, why would nk make up the ridiculous botulism story?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607376)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:32 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607377)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:34 AM
Author: aromatic snowy principal's office

you could explain anything with a stupid argument like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607383)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:34 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station

You're talking to a 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607386)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:45 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607409)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:11 AM
Author: White titillating den really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607459)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:34 AM
Author: Talking native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607387)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:40 AM
Author: White titillating den really tough guy

it's their MO

they could have come up with a bunch of much more plausible stories than the crazy and obviously untrue story about the church/used car payment, for example, which seems like it was developed by a low-level propaganda worker who just jumbled a bunch of words together without actually understanding how western culture operates

the botulism "explanation" has that same tint of surrealism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607399)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:46 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607411)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:51 AM
Author: Sepia self-centered mother goal in life

(Guy wondering why Trump would say he fired Comey due to Rodstein memo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607428)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:46 PM
Author: Razzle orchestra pit

(guy with "Rodstein" as one of his cell phone contacts)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33614059)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: Racy sadistic jap degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635522)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:26 AM
Author: cyan heaven

There was speculation almost immediately that there was a gap in translation. They said botulism but maybe meant food poisoning.

Either way - 'he's in a coma because we gave him a sleeping pill and he didn't wake up' is perfectly North Korean. They tried to help him and him being in a coma is his fault bc he didn't wake up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607477)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:42 AM
Author: stirring institution mad cow disease

North Korea is known to do asphyxiation torture to prisoners. Some guard probably went too far and caused permanent damage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607754)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613750)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:42 PM
Author: Sepia self-centered mother goal in life

This is likely true. He was blubbering on tv at one point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33614017)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:42 AM
Author: ruby dashing gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635488)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:50 AM
Author: Flirting hairy legs kitty cat

Why make up a botulism story and sleeping pill scenario if this were true?

I call bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635528)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635534)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:53 AM
Author: Flirting hairy legs kitty cat

I think he was oxygen deprived, but I don't think it was self-inflicted.

This whole "no autopsy to avoid embarrassment" wouldn't rule out torture or self-inflicted.

The family probably doesn't need to know more than what they already do. An autopsy 18 months later wouldn't get them any more closure than not having one at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635543)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:56 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635554)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:08 AM
Author: Sable beady-eyed blood rage

I was actually in agreement with the op until I read this. This is a compelling point. Even if they were unreasonably prone to lying, it seems like they would come up with a lie more closely aligned with what really happened. Their story was weird as fuck, which makes me think the truth is also weird as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635599)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:09 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635601)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: Flirting hairy legs kitty cat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum

"Use by country[edit]

North Korea[edit]

North Korea is alleged by retired US Army intelligence officer Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer to have used Sodium Pentothal on Otto Warmbier. Shaffer believes mental degredation was caused by overuse of the compound. North Korea blamed the condition on use of a sleeping pill and botulism"

That would explain the rationale for toxicity and brain chemistry that they were afraid would be uncovered. Also explains Warmbier's zombie like appearance at court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635630)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:25 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635636)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:27 AM
Author: Flirting hairy legs kitty cat

This pretty much explains why they were going for a drug/toxicity factor instead of oxygen deprivation.

Close to the truth, but a different cause.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635644)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:33 AM
Author: amber glittery feces

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635653)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 6:21 AM
Author: Talking native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635958)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:05 AM
Author: 180 Background Story

Actually, I think he succeeded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635592)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 3:08 AM
Author: Indecent Floppy Haunted Graveyard

It was fan death.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635744)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 3:12 AM
Author: Boyish center preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635752)