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Otto bro tried to hang himself and failed

Just turned himself into a veggie, this is why the family op...
mind-boggling mediation mad cow disease
  06/21/17
(N. Korean troll)
Internet-worthy smoky parlour
  06/21/17
twist: there's no way of knowing that UNLESS they performed ...
razzmatazz codepig
  06/21/17
Hard to explain the brain damage otherwise. The doctors prob...
Peach jew
  06/21/17
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mind-boggling mediation mad cow disease
  06/21/17
there's no way the brain damage could've been caused by guar...
razzmatazz codepig
  06/21/17
Possible but inconsistent with their prior treatment of whit...
Peach jew
  06/21/17
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Exciting snowy lettuce
  06/21/17
The reality is it's pretty unlikely they were intentionally ...
cream greedy field
  06/25/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
Couldn't find that after a quick search.
cream greedy field
  06/25/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
what would the autopsy have revealed that the docs couldn't ...
contagious brethren gas station
  06/21/17
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6516732
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
Bullshit. Ive seen CSI. They can zoom in and do 3d models of...
mind-boggling mediation mad cow disease
  06/21/17
In other words, you were the lowest of the grunts in your la...
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
And yet here you are in shitlaw.
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
no, youre not.
Multi-colored cordovan antidepressant drug
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
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Exciting snowy lettuce
  06/25/17
pretty sure he was an EMT at one point
Walnut duck-like famous landscape painting plaza
  06/21/17
EMTs are often good people. but EMT training is very sparse ...
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer thinking EMT training curricu...
curious double fault
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Adulterous twinkling uncleanness
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
^ 1200 SAT -> FL Shitlawyer trying to insinuate that EMTs...
curious double fault
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
"I probably have the most medical training on xo, excep...
curious double fault
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
lmao at deluded 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer
curious double fault
  06/25/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
You're done here. Stop posturing.
curious double fault
  06/25/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
^ 1200 SAT -> unselfaware FL shitlawyer who got pwned rep...
curious double fault
  06/25/17
hmmm interesting but i don't know nearly enough about this s...
contagious brethren gas station
  06/21/17
"Injury was largely confined to the CA1 layer of the hi...
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
only on xo does a 1200 SAT FL shitlawyer second guess pathol...
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
^ 1200 SAT argument
curious double fault
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
Well, first of all, the poasted quotes from the path guy are...
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer's idea of an argument
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
“When you don’t do that, then families often linger with nag...
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer moving the goalpoast from why...
curious double fault
  06/21/17
tyft
contagious brethren gas station
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curious double fault
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
“The most important thing I think it could tell us is the ge...
curious double fault
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
"Weedn said an autopsy may also help to rule out causes...
curious double fault
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
if this were true, why would nk make up the ridiculous botul...
Zippy motley kitty cat
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
you could explain anything with a stupid argument like that
Zippy motley kitty cat
  06/21/17
You're talking to a 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer
curious double fault
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
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contagious brethren gas station
  06/21/17
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Peach jew
  06/21/17
it's their MO they could have come up with a bunch of muc...
contagious brethren gas station
  06/21/17
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
(Guy wondering why Trump would say he fired Comey due to Rod...
Trip big-titted mental disorder
  06/21/17
(guy with "Rodstein" as one of his cell phone cont...
Shaky Dull Community Account Depressive
  06/21/17
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vigorous light mood
  06/25/17
There was speculation almost immediately that there was a ga...
Bronze godawful tanning salon doctorate
  06/21/17
North Korea is known to do asphyxiation torture to prisoners...
Dead toilet seat philosopher-king
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/21/17
This is likely true. He was blubbering on tv at one point.
Trip big-titted mental disorder
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curious double fault
  06/25/17
Why make up a botulism story and sleeping pill scenario if t...
Hyperventilating prole
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
I think he was oxygen deprived, but I don't think it was sel...
Hyperventilating prole
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
I was actually in agreement with the op until I read this. T...
red rigpig
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum "Use by co...
Hyperventilating prole
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
  06/25/17
This pretty much explains why they were going for a drug/tox...
Hyperventilating prole
  06/25/17
holy shit
embarrassed to the bone outnumbered mother market
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Peach jew
  06/25/17
Actually, I think he succeeded.
Garnet Theater Hominid
  06/25/17
It was fan death.
Cracking Public Bath
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Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap
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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:03 AM
Author: mind-boggling mediation mad cow disease

Just turned himself into a veggie, this is why the family opted not to do an autopsy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607316)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 6:14 AM
Author: Internet-worthy smoky parlour

(N. Korean troll)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607536)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:04 AM
Author: razzmatazz codepig

twist: there's no way of knowing that UNLESS they performed an autopsy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607321)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:05 AM
Author: Peach jew

Hard to explain the brain damage otherwise. The doctors probably told the family privately to avoid (perceived) embarrassment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607325)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:08 AM
Author: mind-boggling mediation mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607328)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:13 AM
Author: razzmatazz codepig

there's no way the brain damage could've been caused by guards choking him out, or asphyxiation due to some unimaginable torture or sadistic experimentation? keep in mind that we're speculating about the conduct of an alien insect species, and not actual human beings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607338)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:24 AM
Author: Peach jew

Possible but inconsistent with their prior treatment of white people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607361)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:43 PM
Author: Exciting snowy lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33614019)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:44 AM
Author: cream greedy field

The reality is it's pretty unlikely they were intentionally going to go medieval on him. Something happened that wasn't supposed to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635502)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:46 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635515)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: cream greedy field

Couldn't find that after a quick search.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635523)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:54 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635547)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:15 AM
Author: contagious brethren gas station

what would the autopsy have revealed that the docs couldn't see on MRIs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607343)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: curious double fault

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6516732

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607349)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607356)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:24 AM
Author: curious double fault

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607360)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:28 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607369)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:31 AM
Author: mind-boggling mediation mad cow disease

Bullshit. Ive seen CSI. They can zoom in and do 3d models of this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607374)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:33 AM
Author: curious double fault

In other words, you were the lowest of the grunts in your lab.

Like I said, 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607379)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:44 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607407)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:51 AM
Author: curious double fault

And yet here you are in shitlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607429)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:55 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607442)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:43 AM
Author: Multi-colored cordovan antidepressant drug

no, youre not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607761)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613719)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 9:08 AM
Author: Exciting snowy lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33636136)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 7:43 AM
Author: Walnut duck-like famous landscape painting plaza

pretty sure he was an EMT at one point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607633)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:49 AM
Author: curious double fault

EMTs are often good people. but EMT training is very sparse on pathology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607777)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613717)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:02 PM
Author: curious double fault

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer thinking EMT training curriculum is a state secret

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613738)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:41 PM
Author: Adulterous twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33614007)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:43 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635495)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:46 AM
Author: curious double fault

^ 1200 SAT -> FL Shitlawyer trying to insinuate that EMTs are trained in histopathology

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635514)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:55 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635551)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:58 AM
Author: curious double fault

"I probably have the most medical training on xo, except for the doctor who posts here."

^ 1200 SAT -> deluded FL shitlawyer whose grandiosity never ceases to amaze

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635559)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:59 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635562)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:05 AM
Author: curious double fault

lmao at deluded 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635588)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:08 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635597)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:10 AM
Author: curious double fault

You're done here. Stop posturing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635603)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:11 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635605)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:13 AM
Author: curious double fault

^ 1200 SAT -> unselfaware FL shitlawyer who got pwned repeatedly for goalpost relocation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635610)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:53 AM
Author: contagious brethren gas station

hmmm interesting but i don't know nearly enough about this stuff to evaluate it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607435)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:01 AM
Author: curious double fault

"Injury was largely confined to the CA1 layer of the hippocampus.": hippocampus is especially sensitive to oxygen deprivation and atrophies in hypoxic state.

"In both experimental models two types of cell change were prominent: coagulative cell change which was restricted to neurons, and edematous cell change which was largely confined to astrocytes.": neurons clump together, while a non-neuronal type of cells called astrocytes swell in hypoxia.

"Studies on cerebral microcirculation revealed a close relationship between areas of reduced flow and areas with structural damage. Cytochemical demonstration of subcellular calcium indicated an early and important redistribution of this cation, indicative for toxic calcium overload in the cytosol.": you see higher than normal levels of calcium inside cells.

It is true that the prolonged coma could make pathologic analysis difficult, but as the quoted pathologist says, an autopsy could have led to either positive information confirming a cause, or negative information to rule out botulism, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607448)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:05 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607454)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: curious double fault

only on xo does a 1200 SAT FL shitlawyer second guess pathology attendings on autopsies lmao.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607456)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:11 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607462)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:13 AM
Author: curious double fault

^ 1200 SAT argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607463)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:14 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607465)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:17 AM
Author: curious double fault

Well, first of all, the poasted quotes from the path guy are generalizable statements.

Second, even with reduced chances of finding satisfactory evidence, an autopsy is much likelier to yield useful info than no autopsy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607467)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:18 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607469)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:19 AM
Author: curious double fault

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer's idea of an argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607470)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:22 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607473)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:25 AM
Author: curious double fault

“When you don’t do that, then families often linger with nagging questions that may have been resolved at autopsy,” he said, adding that examinations in this case could also be important for international affairs. “An autopsy is the way that you are best able to get good evidence. That is, it matters.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607476)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607487)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:47 AM
Author: curious double fault

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer moving the goalpoast from why autopsy won't yield meaningful info to other extra-medical reasons for not having an autopsy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607774)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: contagious brethren gas station

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607457)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:52 PM
Author: curious double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613674)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:20 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607352)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:44 AM
Author: curious double fault

“The most important thing I think it could tell us is the general nature of what caused the brain damage and it might give us some idea if it was continuing or in the past,” said Victor Weedn, a forensic pathologist and professor of forensic sciences at George Washington University.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/06/20/what-an-autopsy-could-tell-us-about-otto-warmbiers-death/?utm_term=.3f98bb340aad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607406)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:47 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607418)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:48 AM
Author: curious double fault

"Weedn said an autopsy may also help to rule out causes, including trauma or infection. In some cases, he said, autopsies can help find discrepancies in stories."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607426)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:58 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607445)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:02 AM
Author: curious double fault

^ 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607450)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:17 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607346)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:32 AM
Author: Zippy motley kitty cat

if this were true, why would nk make up the ridiculous botulism story?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607376)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:32 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607377)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:34 AM
Author: Zippy motley kitty cat

you could explain anything with a stupid argument like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607383)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:34 AM
Author: curious double fault

You're talking to a 1200 SAT -> FL shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607386)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:45 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607409)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:11 AM
Author: contagious brethren gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607459)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:34 AM
Author: Peach jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607387)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:40 AM
Author: contagious brethren gas station

it's their MO

they could have come up with a bunch of much more plausible stories than the crazy and obviously untrue story about the church/used car payment, for example, which seems like it was developed by a low-level propaganda worker who just jumbled a bunch of words together without actually understanding how western culture operates

the botulism "explanation" has that same tint of surrealism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607399)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:46 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607411)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:51 AM
Author: Trip big-titted mental disorder

(Guy wondering why Trump would say he fired Comey due to Rodstein memo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607428)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:46 PM
Author: Shaky Dull Community Account Depressive

(guy with "Rodstein" as one of his cell phone contacts)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33614059)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: vigorous light mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635522)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:26 AM
Author: Bronze godawful tanning salon doctorate

There was speculation almost immediately that there was a gap in translation. They said botulism but maybe meant food poisoning.

Either way - 'he's in a coma because we gave him a sleeping pill and he didn't wake up' is perfectly North Korean. They tried to help him and him being in a coma is his fault bc he didn't wake up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607477)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 8:42 AM
Author: Dead toilet seat philosopher-king

North Korea is known to do asphyxiation torture to prisoners. Some guard probably went too far and caused permanent damage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607754)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33613750)



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Date: June 21st, 2017 9:42 PM
Author: Trip big-titted mental disorder

This is likely true. He was blubbering on tv at one point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33614017)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:42 AM
Author: curious double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635488)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:50 AM
Author: Hyperventilating prole

Why make up a botulism story and sleeping pill scenario if this were true?

I call bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635528)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635534)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:53 AM
Author: Hyperventilating prole

I think he was oxygen deprived, but I don't think it was self-inflicted.

This whole "no autopsy to avoid embarrassment" wouldn't rule out torture or self-inflicted.

The family probably doesn't need to know more than what they already do. An autopsy 18 months later wouldn't get them any more closure than not having one at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635543)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:56 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635554)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:08 AM
Author: red rigpig

I was actually in agreement with the op until I read this. This is a compelling point. Even if they were unreasonably prone to lying, it seems like they would come up with a lie more closely aligned with what really happened. Their story was weird as fuck, which makes me think the truth is also weird as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635599)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:09 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635601)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: Hyperventilating prole

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum

"Use by country[edit]

North Korea[edit]

North Korea is alleged by retired US Army intelligence officer Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer to have used Sodium Pentothal on Otto Warmbier. Shaffer believes mental degredation was caused by overuse of the compound. North Korea blamed the condition on use of a sleeping pill and botulism"

That would explain the rationale for toxicity and brain chemistry that they were afraid would be uncovered. Also explains Warmbier's zombie like appearance at court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635630)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:25 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635636)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:27 AM
Author: Hyperventilating prole

This pretty much explains why they were going for a drug/toxicity factor instead of oxygen deprivation.

Close to the truth, but a different cause.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635644)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:33 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone outnumbered mother market

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635653)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 6:21 AM
Author: Peach jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635958)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:05 AM
Author: Garnet Theater Hominid

Actually, I think he succeeded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635592)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 3:08 AM
Author: Cracking Public Bath

It was fan death.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635744)



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Date: June 25th, 2017 3:12 AM
Author: Flickering dark mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635752)