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Friend said a median HYS student would easily get top 5% at a TTT school
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Date: July 12th, 2017 1:29 AM Author: idiotic cerebral multi-billionaire i was skeptical. what do you think? easily top 5% at southwestern? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755536) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 1:34 AM Author: Smoky theater background story Hard to guarantee top 5% on subjectively graded exams. Top 15% for sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755557) |
Date: July 12th, 2017 1:33 AM Author: shimmering erotic church organic girlfriend I doubt it, top 5% is more about grinding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755554) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 1:36 AM Author: aqua irate menage I don't know about law schools, but I went from a top 3 ug to a top 20 ug for a semester. The differences in course difficulty and average intelligence were stark. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755564) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 1:46 AM Author: idiotic cerebral multi-billionaire so HYP to....Georgetown? something like that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755592) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 2:08 AM Author: Flirting Selfie Pocket Flask what was your major? LoL if it was a libshit degree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755659) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 1:35 AM Author: Sapphire electric trailer park Of course they would at a true TTT like that. 90 percent of ppl who go to those schools are legit slow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755560) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 1:46 AM Author: idiotic cerebral multi-billionaire OK, what about median HYS dropped into Cornell. How would they do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755596) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 1:55 AM Author: Sapphire electric trailer park That I don't know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755620) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 2:03 AM Author: talented location masturbator at a true ttt the difference in intelligence would be clear from the hys student's basic writing ability / prose. as long as he did enough studying to know his shit sufficiently he should stand out.
difference in pure intelligence between hys students and lower t14 or t20 or something is much narrower. it's not like hys students are geniuses, for the most part they're pretty much the same caliber intellect as the rest of the t14 but did more to make themselves stand out along the way. median student at hys is not remarkably intelligent. if you can excel at hys only by gunning then you'll have to gun at a lower t14 too. |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 2:09 AM Author: Flirting Selfie Pocket Flask CR
Also stanford regularly admits those with lsat scores similar to the lower t 14 anyway |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 7:34 AM Author: Vibrant station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755990) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 8:58 AM Author: Twinkling temple travel guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33756132) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 2:00 AM Author: fragrant cocky hell ratface Nowadays probably. Aren't all non-T14 schools now filled with literal retards who can't even pass the bar? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755638) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 2:37 AM Author: Soggy turdskin chapel i don't know about that
when i went to LS about a decade ago we had transfers who were top 5% at TTTs and they did extremely well in tough classes in 2L and 3L
that made me think that top 5% at a TTT is not something that a median HYS student can easily get |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 2:41 AM Author: nighttime double fault property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755711) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 2:56 AM Author: talented location masturbator that's a different question though
there are probably a few students at ttts who ended up there for whatever reason (let personal issues fuck them up during undergrad etc.) who could gun and do well if given a shot at hys.
but if the median at hys today is like 170 / 3.85 at a decent ug then the median hys student is at least competent and has decent enough study skills. he might not be the #1 student at a ttt because of that one smart guy who ended up there for whatever reason but he'd probably stand out amongst the sea of tards at a true ttt. top 10% should be easy if he keeps decent study habits. top 5% if he's diligent (which he probably is, even if not remarkably smart). |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 3:02 AM Author: Soggy turdskin chapel but unless there was some reason to think that the transfer students were extremely unusual among their class (i.e. one of the few students who ended up there for whatever reason), they should generally represent the top 5% (or something close to that threshold) at that TTT
the fact that they are beating out median students at much better schools in a head-to-head matchup like fed courts where there's still incentives to do well during 2L/3L for clerking etc. suggests that they have some kind of organizational or other aptitude that isn't readily captured by lsat/gpa
i don't doubt that the median hys student is competent but IME the top 5% at TTTs were pretty damn good |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 3:02 AM Author: idiotic cerebral multi-billionaire did they seem more intelligent based on conversations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755737) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 3:03 AM Author: Soggy turdskin chapel they seemed quick on their feet but their most noticeable trait was that they were clear and organized writers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755738) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 3:22 AM Author: talented location masturbator the nature of my point was that a ttt transfer to hys is not necessarily representative of the top 5% at a ttt. to be top 5% at a true ttt you're just standing out among tards. there could be some real stand-outs among that top 5% but being top 5% at a ttt just means that you're better than a bunch of dumbs.
i don't think most hys students are anything special but if we're talking true TTTs here then you have to bear in mind how dumb some of these students are. think of the average lsat and bar passage rates at some of these schools. |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 3:34 AM Author: Soggy turdskin chapel if that's so, then sure, i would agree that the comparison is flawed
just off the top of my head, however, the TTT transfers to our school were occasionally not even top 5%, but sometimes the bottom half of top 10% or even a bit lower. so there wasn't any reason to think that they were standouts among the top 5% guys.
now i would defo agree that a true TTT (let's say cooley) probably is packed with retards and that a median HYS student would easily cut through that class like darth vader |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 3:42 AM Author: talented location masturbator yeah your last paragraph is in line with what i was thinking
for just plain mediocre/shitty schools but not cooley-level ttts then i think hys students really aren't all that more intelligent on average. a very solid student at one of these places could do well enough at hys if given a shot.
this is also why i lol @ people who think they're hot shit just b/c they got into a good professional school. except for the top 5% of these schools the real smarts are elsewhere. |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 6:36 PM Author: arousing casino Last sentence is right I think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33759965) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 7:20 AM Author: Ivory Sneaky Criminal Jew Hi, I actually had median grades at HYS. The difference between me and the folks at the top of the class was not intelligence, but effort. I'd have been just as lazy at a TTT and some insane striver would still beat me out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755979) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 7:31 AM Author: shimmering erotic church organic girlfriend exactly. you see the same thing at law firms. the odd ttt grad who makes it into biglaw typically exhibits incredible striving ethic, leading to outsized chances of making partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755985) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 7:32 AM Author: Cyan personal credit line rehab You must be some level of striver if you got into HYS tho. Most state schools are practically open admission (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33755987) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 7:41 AM Author: Ivory Sneaky Criminal Jew Top 5% at TTT are guys who for whatever reason didnt have good stats in college or do well on LSAT but have godlike work effort.
I never really knew hard work in life: was smart enough to coast to good grades all the way through college. I still don't really know hard work. Curve plus lack of interest in law makes LS hard for ppl like me. |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 7:58 AM Author: cracking elastic band If I was median at HYS I would also say the reason was effort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33756023) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 9:12 AM Author: Fuchsia associate somebody would beat you out. But 5% of the class would not beat you out. You can make median at a TTTT just by understanding how to form sentences into coherent paragraphs and paragraphs into briefs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33756155) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 8:19 AM Author: Lascivious depressive shrine The average Cooley or Thomas Jefferson law grad has problems putting together grammatically correct sentences. There's some luck to top 5%, but they'd easily hit top 10%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33756048) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 8:55 AM Author: Odious walnut piazza stock car Aren't TTT students tested differently? They have multiple choice questions and shorts answers like this:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/09/15/422B920D00000578-4679476-image-a-34_1499610567513.jpg
You would never see this at YHS. |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 9:18 AM Author: Exhilarant address I think this is correct. Law school grades are more about aptitude than effort (opposite of biglaw). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33756182) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 9:29 AM Author: learning disabled violet resort Wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33756224) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 9:33 AM Author: Fuchsia associate I think you're underestimating the difference between a HYS student and a true TTTT student.
The average xo'er has never even litigated against a TTTT student, unless it was a TTTT law review EIC. The median TTTT guy is defending misdemeanors in rural counties and filling out uncontested divorce papers, assuming they pass the bar. |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 9:48 AM Author: Outnumbered Step-uncle's House Assuming no mental breakdown or anything, top 2 in class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33756331) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 6:58 PM Author: Nubile lodge ceo people are going to disagree but I'd say no. you either know how to write a law exam or you don't and that skill isnt tested for LS admission (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33760095) |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: salmon passionate yarmulke useless brakes i think this is pretty obviously true.
the average HYS student has a 175ish LSAT score.
What's the HIGHEST LSAT score at a real TTT? Low 160's? That's a huge difference.
of course, you could have the odd genius who went to a TTT because her husband is a surgeon at the university hospital nearby... |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 7:50 PM Author: Black State i feel like you you made up this conversation and made up this "friend"
tell the truth OP |
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Date: July 12th, 2017 11:12 PM Author: Spectacular Laser Beams LOL @ your friend. Definitely not "easily." Probably top 25% but not top 5%. I was top 10% at a tier 2 school after 1L. Transferred to a CCN where I ranked even higher than at the tier 2 school. The bottom half of the tier 2 school was much weaker than at CCN, but I didn't see any difference among the people among the top 10% at each place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3672485&forum_id=2#33761638) |
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