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IT'S ON: Sessions to start subpoenaing media over leaks and JAIL JOURNALISTS
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:28 PM Author: Multi-colored dragon candlestick maker http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59807a57e4b08e1430058d5a?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
The media is "ethically bound" not to reveal their sources, so they will refuse to comply with subpoenas. Then they will be held in contempt and jailed. This is what happened to Judy Woodroff in the Valarie Plame affair. When they finally break and squeal we'll get the leakers and give them 50 year prison sentences. |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:59 PM Author: exhilarant state Judy Miller. Not Judy Woodruff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918025) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 3:13 PM Author: exhilarant state http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/04/doj-reviewing-policies-on-media-subpoenas-sessions-says-241329 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918694) |
Date: August 4th, 2017 1:29 PM Author: Provocative aggressive ladyboy institution (He won't) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33917716) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:31 PM Author: Multi-colored dragon candlestick maker Trump will order him to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33917736) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:30 PM Author: lilac station it's not hard to get rid of the leakers. start by firing the obama holdovers in the NSC, fire McMaster, fire Dina Powell, fire every never Trumper in the administration, remove Susan Rice's security clearance (LOL she still has it thanks to McMaster) and go from there.
trump doesn't care about getting rid of the leakers though. |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:08 PM Author: Topaz Flickering Shrine Travel Guidebook What you are saying should be common sense, yet the two of us are the only ones here that seem to care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918110) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:24 PM Author: indecent hairraiser locale Sup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918244) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 3:24 PM Author: Topaz Flickering Shrine Travel Guidebook I didn't realize you felt this way. Another thing I like about you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918774) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:31 PM Author: mustard stimulating crotch just do file motion to quash and argue 1st amendment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33917734) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:32 PM Author: Multi-colored dragon candlestick maker Media has no first amendment right to refuse to reveal the name of government employees who illegally leaked info to them. They aren't being charged with *publishing* the info. They are being subpoenaed for info re the illegal leak. This has been settled in court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33917748) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:33 PM Author: Glittery chrome stag film Yeah but have you considered the fact that democracy dies in darkness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33917755) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:03 PM Author: Beady-eyed submissive center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918063) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:04 PM Author: buff fragrant skinny woman pit Good. Democracy is flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918072) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:05 PM Author: charismatic useless theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918085) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: exhilarant state Then the journalists better squeal so they can get out of jail and resume publishing fake news! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918124) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:47 PM Author: coral trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918445) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:41 PM Author: bateful scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#35658030) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:59 PM Author: Adulterous chestnut plaza Would be the perfect time for SCOTUS to establish that in fact they do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918029) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:04 PM Author: exhilarant state You have a first amendment right NOT to say something? The first amendment lets you say what you want (within limits). It doesn't prevent you from giving testimony at a trial, answering subpoenas, etc. The fifth protects you against self incrimination but I don't think that could apply here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918075) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:09 PM Author: Buck-toothed point reading party "You have a first amendment right NOT to say something?"
Yes. There is settled case law regarding compelled speech. |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: exhilarant state Hmm well I must have missed the thousands of people refusing to be deposed, refusing to testify at trial, etc. based on their first amendment rights. I'll be sure to tell my clients about this next time one gets a subpoena. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918176) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:19 PM Author: Buck-toothed point reading party Also make sure to tell them that it's cool to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater, since we have the First Amendment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918193) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: Alcoholic pisswyrm this isn't one of those situations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918178) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:18 PM Author: Buck-toothed point reading party I think you're right, but I'm not sure if it's ever been tested at the Supreme Court in a journalism case. Seems somewhat analogous to the case allowing journalists to publish unlawfully obtained information. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918187) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:23 PM Author: exhilarant state On October 1, 2004, federal Judge Thomas F. Hogan found Miller in contempt of court for refusing to appear before a federal grand jury, which was investigating who had leaked to reporters the fact that Valerie Plame was a CIA operative. Miller did not write an article about the subject at the time of the leak, but others did, notably Robert Novak, spurring the investigation. Judge Hogan sentenced her to 18 months in jail, but stayed the sentence while her appeal proceeded. On February 15, 2005, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit unanimously upheld Judge Hogan's ruling. On June 17, 2005, the US Supreme Court declined to hear the case. On July 6, 2005, Judge Hogan ordered Miller to serve her sentence at "a suitable jail within the metropolitan area of the District of Columbia". She was taken to Alexandria City Jail on July 7, 2005.[33][34] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918233) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:25 PM Author: Buck-toothed point reading party makes sense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918251) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:25 PM Author: Adulterous chestnut plaza District court, gray area, can go both ways today, SCOTUS could go either way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918252) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:28 PM Author: exhilarant state Let's find out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918275) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:31 PM Author: Buck-toothed point reading party Actually, it looks like the Supreme Court addressed the matter in 1972 (at least in the case of grand jury testimony), and rejected the notion of a reporter privilege under the First Amendment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branzburg_v._Hayes |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:35 PM Author: exhilarant state Was that before Grand SJW Wizard Anthony Kennedy joined the court? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918324) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:39 PM Author: Buck-toothed point reading party Yes, and it was a 5-4 decision. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918353) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:24 PM Author: Adulterous chestnut plaza Rights of a free press shall non be abridged. Protection of sources is one of those still gray areas of law. Trump is exactly the type of president to push the balances in favor of a shitlib type ruling because his demand will be about who said he had bad hair or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918245) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:33 PM Author: pea-brained base How long can you jail a journalist on "contempt"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33917756) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:58 PM Author: exhilarant state As long as is necessary to get them to comply. So if it's 100 years then it's 100 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918015) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:00 PM Author: Glittery chrome stag film *TJHS student newspaper editor gulps* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918031) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:00 PM Author: Shivering Twinkling Uncleanness Breyer, J.: "For a reasonable time" (i.e., no more than 6 months). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918032) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: exhilarant state You just make that up? Contempt has no time limit. The standard is however long is needed to gain compliance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918052) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:12 PM Author: pea-brained base BEND THE KNEE is the new "gain compliance"
HTH. |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:51 PM Author: Shivering Twinkling Uncleanness http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/29/us/supreme-court-issue-confinement-supreme-court-limits-detention-cases-deportable.html
The 5-to-4 decision rejected the government's view, as argued by both the Clinton and Bush administrations, that immigration law authorized and the Constitution permitted indefinite, even lifelong detention of immigrants adjudged deportable but unable to be repatriated.
Justice Stephen G. Breyer's majority opinion said that because interpreting the law in that way would present a ''serious constitutional threat'' under the Fifth Amendment's guarantee of due process, the court would construe the law to permit only ''reasonable'' detention. Justice Breyer said that after six months of detention, if deportation did not seem likely in the ''reasonably foreseeable future,'' the government would have to come up with special reasons for keeping someone in custody. [Excerpts, Page A20.] |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 3:01 PM Author: Buck-toothed point reading party So...WTF does that have to do with contempt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918574) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 3:12 PM Author: exhilarant state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918688) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 4:21 PM Author: Passionate snowy coldplay fan foreskin Just whip them until they agree to stop publishing leaked info (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33919138) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:01 PM Author: exhilarant state Judy Miller was locked up in Alexandria VA for three months in 2005 until she agreed to squeal and revealed that Scooter Libby was the source of the leak. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918049) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: pea-brained base 3 months is a joke. Is it 1 year or 10 years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918051) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:03 PM Author: exhilarant state She agreed to talk after 3 months. That's why she got out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918061) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:12 PM Author: pea-brained base lol @ trusting a woman journalist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918141) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:08 PM Author: Boyish deer antler until *Scooter Libby wrote her a weird poem that made it obvious to the world that they were fucking, and also gave her permission* to squeal...
I feel sorry for you youngmo politics dorks that weren't old enough to enjoy this in realtime. The mid-aughts were the most entertaining political period of my lifetime until the last two years. |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:19 PM Author: exhilarant state Lol yeah I must have missed that tidbit. I attended a talk by Miller's then-lawyer Bon Bennet years ago and he said that he had cut a deal to get her locked up in Alexandria instead of D.C. where she would have been eaten alive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918198) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:25 PM Author: pea-brained base ahhaahahahha they will captiulate instantly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918249) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 1:33 PM Author: Vengeful infuriating piazza bbw getting pretty clear the leaks are orchestrated by McMaster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33917762) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:03 PM Author: exhilarant state We'll find out. In time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918064) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:26 PM Author: Adulterous chestnut plaza Are you saying we'll see what unfolds? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918259) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:05 PM Author: buff fragrant skinny woman pit Then he will be Poloniumed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918078) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:08 PM Author: arousing ceo Lol... Good luck getting past the Hawaiian judge's writ of habeus corpus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918111) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: exhilarant state Don't you need personal jurisdiction? Oh I forgot that the supreme federal district court of Hawaii can overturn SCOTUS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918130) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:13 PM Author: arousing ceo Plus. The government will have to foot the bill transporting these bros to Hawaii for release. AGs hate him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918150) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:14 PM Author: swashbuckling henna useless brakes blood rage *Sessions furiously flipping through documents at DOJ HQ*
"Wait, wait. No. No, this ain't right. It caint be. The leaks....the leaks are coming from a Blackberry phone...registered to Donald J. Trump!" |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:41 PM Author: sooty comical theater stage regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#35658024) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 10:53 PM Author: Pearly Lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#35658143) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:20 PM Author: Lime autistic stage affirmative action Good to see Sesh getting his ass in gear after Trump put some heat under him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918204) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:29 PM Author: exhilarant state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918278) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 2:31 PM Author: pea-brained base https://twitter.com/zachdcarter/status/893534745698729985 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33918299) |
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Date: August 4th, 2017 5:09 PM Author: exhilarant state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33919581) |
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Date: August 5th, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Multi-colored dragon candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3692608&forum_id=2#33923415) |