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Harrison Barnes on the transformation of a lawyer
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Date: August 10th, 2017 3:42 PM Author: vigorous white range I honestly believe that practicing law makes many people go crazy. There are just too many stressful factors for most attorneys to handle this profession well.
I saw several gentle "philosophy and humanity-types" enter law school and the legal profession. They began as sweet, nice people. Years later, they were a hundred pounds heavier, angry, slamming down phones, mumbling obscenities, wiping their sweaty foreheads with their arms while revealing equally sweaty arm pits.
"Get me a pastrami sandwich and two orders of onion rings!" I once heard an attorney yell to his secretary.
At 9:00 in the morning!
You can see this type of attorney in every major city. If I'm riding down the street in a cab in Chicago and see a crowd of people hustling down the street, I can pick out the stressed-out lawyers as easily as a hawk spotting a mouse. Fifteen years ago, they may have been stick-thin seniors in college in a Starbucks writing poems about the beauty of life and thinking gentle thoughts. "It would be nice to leave a flower by her door with a note about how good she looks today."
Now the same person is a 250-pound divorced beast who will start screaming obscenities when they bump into someone on the street. |
Date: August 10th, 2017 4:49 PM Author: Iridescent place of business shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33958676) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 4:51 PM Author: drab adventurous antidepressant drug gaming laptop i disavow my previous statements about him-- this guy is an unadulterated 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33958694) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 4:53 PM Author: Iridescent place of business shrine he's amazing and most of what he says is dead-on accurate
i think i might start doing more coke |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 6:27 PM Author: smoky hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33959550) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 7:49 PM Author: buff school clown He's incredible. The thing with him is he produces these massive 50+ page screeds on many topics, so you have to wade through a lot to pick out gens like this one.
But a lot of what he writes is very entertaining. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:11 AM Author: vermilion vivacious genital piercing ladyboy It's overblown. He has no talent for restraint and subtlety in his trolling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33963998) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 1:42 PM Author: drab adventurous antidepressant drug gaming laptop that's passive aggressive faggotry. we appreciate masculinity here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33964982) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: buff school clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33965178) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: Spectacular frozen really tough guy (dweeb) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33965058) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 1:51 PM Author: Turquoise School Cafeteria Water Buffalo What is this nigger's moniker already? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33965043) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: puce field LJL at this profession (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33958702) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: Anal Emerald Parlour Codepig lol. that guy is nuts, but pretty funny sometimes.
is he still playing for the Mavs? |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 4:53 PM Author: Stimulating flesh step-uncle's house The most intelligent thing he has ever written (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33958715) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 4:59 PM Author: Iridescent place of business shrine Holy shit have you bros read this one:
http://www.bcgsearch.com/article/900046547/Why-Most-Attorneys-Are-Angry/ |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 5:36 PM Author: vigorous white range Sounds like Winston went out strong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33959126) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 7:41 PM Author: rebellious violent locus Over the past year I have represented a couple of former Olympic athletes (now attorneys) with decent, but not stellar qualifications. You would have thought the opposite, however. There was literally a major feeding frenzy over both of them—even though their practice areas were not in very much demand. One attorney received at least 10 offers and the other at least five. This all occurred when much more qualified candidates (from better firms, better law schools, and with better grades) were not experiencing even a fraction of this success. What was going on? The only thing I could think of was what one firm said to me when it wanted to interview one of these candidates:
“We want our attorneys to be competitive.” |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: Turquoise School Cafeteria Water Buffalo LOL at this flame.
What was going on? "Our clients are morons. They pay us $750 an hour for our advice on average and we barely understand their businesses and do like 20 minutes of Google research on a topic before calling them back or shitting out a memo. But they're catching on to our act, so we need shiny things to distract them." |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 6:19 PM Author: smoky hospital (Harrison Barnes) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33959492) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: Insanely creepy confused dilemma karate I agree that practicing law is SHIT, PURE SHIT. It's miserable, and even as a solo, I hate actually practicing. I hate dealing with clients' problems, asshole attorneys, and deadlines that accidentally missing could result in disbarment and a malpractice lawsuit.
But I never understood this guy's schtick. Isn't he a recruiter? Isn't he supposed to paint law as a rosy, happy career and pretend that your shitty job is just an anomaly? How does this schtick help with recruiting? |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 7:44 PM Author: dun deep office immigrant This is why you're not in sales.
You want a guy who *gets* you and your struggle. Harrison offers you that. You go to this guy and he gets you a job but he knows why you're going in the first place: because you work for sociopaths and deep down you know you're just looking for the next, hopefully slightly-less-sociopathic place. |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 7:47 PM Author: drab adventurous antidepressant drug gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33960058) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 7:48 PM Author: Insanely creepy confused dilemma karate I "just do sales" to get potential client every day. It's about selling them hope. His pitch concedes that all law is pure steaming, fetid shit. I would agree with you if it was a pitch about how shitty most law is but about how the right fit can change everything.
Instead, it's mostly just "LOL law = shit. That's why I'm a recruiter instead of a lawyer." That's a sentiment I totally get it. But it just makes me want to be a recruiter, not a lawyer. |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 8:05 PM Author: dun deep office immigrant Lawyers are pussies, yes? They aren't going to "leave law" (OMG WHAT WOULD MY CLASSMATES FROM LAW REVIEW THINK?!!??!?!) and be recruiters. They're going to stay fucking lawyers.
Plus he deals with the most risk averse of them all: usually larger firm lawyers.
This dude knows how to manipulate the psyche of the lawyer. |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 9:16 PM Author: puce field Makes changing jobs in law sound like Quantum Leap with Sam leaping from one sociopathic office to the next, hoping that the next leap will finally be the chill office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33960626) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: dun deep office immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33961771) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 2:00 PM Author: Self-absorbed toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33965099) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 8:06 PM Author: Flushed voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33960204) |
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Date: August 10th, 2017 11:43 PM Author: vibrant sickened chapel marketing idea He's spot on wih this, but dead wrong about inhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33961798) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 12:27 PM Author: Aphrodisiac corner How is he wrong about in house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33964415) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 12:29 PM Author: Provocative locale double fault What did he say about in-house? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33964424) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 1:57 PM Author: Turquoise School Cafeteria Water Buffalo Among other things he said going inhouse makes it harder to get other inhouse jobs, which is such transparently self-serving bullshit that he should be laughed out of his profession. It wasn't even really true 15 years ago, but the oldest boomers still think that way because they're idiots. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33965067) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: Provocative locale double fault lol. Wtf?
FME, being inhouse gives you a boost over pvt practice attorneys. In large part because the practice is different -- need social skills, understand that you're another line item in the expense budget, be chill with coworkers, not be a fucking striver (well not all the time), etc.
Interviewed a guy from V10 recently. Total fucking striver. I can see him just irritating the paralegals and staff by treating them like shit. Sure, they aren't the best, but they are invaluable wrt office politics, etc. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 2:22 PM Author: Turquoise School Cafeteria Water Buffalo Yes, this is why the coke fiend stretch 4 should be laughed out of his profession. I can't imagine the thought process of someone who is like "yeah I totally trust this guy with my career." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33965220) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:44 AM Author: rose stage terrific 180 screed. I thought they had to take his keyboard away after the last one, but I guess that didn't last. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33963503) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:47 AM Author: pink cerebral address cuckoldry Didn't he get fired for sexism? Is this old? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33963525) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:41 AM Author: dun deep office immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33963817) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:10 AM Author: Self-absorbed toaster "Get me a pastrami sandwich and two orders of onion rings!" is best thing I'm going to read today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3697409&forum_id=2#33963990) |