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Lol at people w obscure engineering degrees like "civil" interviewing for patent
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:39 PM Author: cyan school These are always auto-dings. Such poor career choices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967361) |
Date: August 11th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: Lake House I am an expert on the Engineering job market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967399) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm (Guy who doesn't know what "obscure" means) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967400) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: cyan school (civil engineer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967451) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm It's literally the LEAST "obscure" engineering field; there are more civil engineers than any other kind of engineer, you gigantic retard.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=engineers+people+employed |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:01 PM Author: Motley drab public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967532) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:09 PM Author: cyan school Lol I don't give a shit about 56-yr old engineers from some bygone era hanging on for a few more years. In 2017, "civil" engineering is simply obscure, especially for people trying to muscle their way into patent law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967591) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: Motley drab public bath "I don't give a shit"
let me stop you there... you're a pumo. your opinion isn't important. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:12 PM Author: cyan school Ok let me rephrase. Nobody gives a shit about your obscure CivE degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967616) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:14 PM Author: Motley drab public bath let me rephrase.
you're a pumo. nobody gives a shit about your opinion as to who gives a shit or doesnt give a shit about particular engineering degrees. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm "Employment of civil engineers is projected to grow 8 percent from 2014 to 2024, about as fast as the average for all occupations."
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/civil-engineers.htm
It's a good thing you're already pumo, hey? |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:15 PM Author: Motley drab public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967648) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: Mentally impaired opaque brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968689) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: sooty internet-worthy institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968839) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:51 PM Author: Motley drab public bath (poli sci shithead) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967433) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: cyan school (civil engineer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967452) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:01 PM Author: Motley drab public bath always. a. pumo.
see above. you got pwn3d
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967499)
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: Crimson Tank Civil engineer here. lol @ programmer fags. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967599) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm Tell us about your jerb
What stuff do you design? Do you enjoy it? How's the pay? What are the best and worst parts of the work? |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: Crimson Tank My degree is BS Civil but I call myself a structural engineer. I design bridges. The pay is OK. The best part of my work, for me, it when I have to come up with a novel solution to a particular problem, or create a complex model of something. The worst part is midnight bridge inspections. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967720) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:25 PM Author: cyan school Had to be bridges (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967733) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:01 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm Can you tell us your pay and years of experience? Or approximately if you're worried about doobs or whatever.
How many hours per week do you typically work? How hard is it to find a job as a structural engineer? Both in terms of how you'd perceive the market for new graduates right now, and in terms of if you yourself were fired, how long it would take you to find a new job. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:22 PM Author: Crimson Tank 15 years. I make an adequate income.
I work 40 hours a week normally. If there is a deadline I work as long as I have to to meet it. You will be paid straight time overtime unless you are management and on a salary. The market is regional and here (Chicago) the market has high demand for structural engineers of all levels, you will find a job. If I were fired I could find a job in Chicagoland pretty easily. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:10 PM Author: Fishy big-titted church weed whacker Difficulty of FE/PE? There's a special extra test for structural, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968753) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:41 PM Author: Crimson Tank FE is mildly difficult and best taken last year of school. PE is easy. SE (Structural Engineer) test is hard as fuck and has a lower pass rate than the bar, but its only required in a few states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972732) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:38 PM Author: Irate karate rehab curious what salary range for a real engineer is?
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: know-it-all cocky market international law enforcement agency what i don't understand is why you need a ee to be a patent lawyer. like in undergrad what if i have no idea what ee even is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967604) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: cyan school Because there isn't much of a market for patenting bridges or whatever it is that civil engineers do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967629) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:14 PM Author: know-it-all cocky market international law enforcement agency but why can't a cive prosecution ee patents. one or two courses on circuits would suffice, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967637) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: Racy senate milk No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967673) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: know-it-all cocky market international law enforcement agency but the ee knows how to patent the cure for cancer. got it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967682) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:23 PM Author: cyan school No they dont, you hire Bio PHDs for that, ee/cs for all the tech work, and you don't hire CivEs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967702) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:26 PM Author: know-it-all cocky market international law enforcement agency ee/cs knows how to patent a bridge, but meche doesn't know how to patent computer memory? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967738) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:27 PM Author: Motley drab public bath youre taking to moron (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967752) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:55 PM Author: cyan school I didn't say ee/cs know how to patent a bridge, there just isn't much demand for such a skill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968684) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: Motley drab public bath you don't. OP is flame.
biglaw ip lit cares more about law school and grades. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle lay True, but EE/CS is a big plus even for IP lit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967658) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:19 PM Author: Motley drab public bath depends on the firm. could be a big plus, or a slight plus.
the reality is that any ip lit candidate with a stem degree -- ee/cs or bio -- and who meets the school/grades cutoff will have tons of opportunities. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: Fear-inspiring mint skinny woman stock car (It is 2010) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967685) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:36 PM Author: Learning disabled hospital community account you're a fucking idiot if you're going into IP lit in 2017 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967827) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:38 PM Author: Fear-inspiring mint skinny woman stock car Cr. Unless ANDA/Biosimilars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967841) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: cyan school I didn't say biglaw ip lit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967724) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:15 PM Author: bistre pungent set I was a patent litigator at a top firm with a philosophy degree lmao... I was writing claim construction briefs in billion dollar ANDA cases and had literally no clue what the fuck any of the words meant. it was pretty 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967650) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: Motley drab public bath tbf, i got an A in organic chem and i've written CC briefs in billion dollar anda cases and i dont have a fucking clue what the words mean either. patent lit is a fucking lulzy joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967659) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:17 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle lay The judge/clerk writing the Markman order probably didn't have any clue what any of the words mean either. LJL at our patent system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967663) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: bistre pungent set lol cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967669) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: Motley drab public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967680) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:21 PM Author: Fear-inspiring mint skinny woman stock car This is 100% true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967691) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: Motley drab public bath ITT: thread does *not* go as OP planned. always. a. pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967689) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:06 PM Author: Curious cream stag film pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968426) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: Mentally impaired opaque brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968692) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968856) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:19 PM Author: Racy senate milk How about "industrial engineering" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968145) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:58 PM Author: Mentally impaired opaque brethren (Ga Tech grad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968697) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:58 PM Author: cyan school That's right up. Civil, industrial, nuclear, aerospace, etc. All those people are auto-dings.
Also "systems engineering" or "general engineering." Those are the most lolzy. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Mentally impaired opaque brethren One is not like the other. Civil Engineering is not an obscure field. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968708) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: cyan school It's equally useless for patent law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968736) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:02 PM Author: Curious cream stag film pistol Know a few industrial/operations engineers in ip. Doesn't matter if you can sit for the patent bar and can be billed out. You seem dumb and about to go through oci. Good luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968710) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:10 PM Author: cyan school They won't get jobs unless they are 8+ females. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968754) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:11 PM Author: Curious cream stag film pistol Neither will you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968762) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:04 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm You're further exposing your retardation. Aerospace engineering degrees have 95% curriculum overlap with mechanical engineering degrees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968721) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: cyan school sorry bro, they are unhirable in patent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968735) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:17 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm Are mechanical engineers unhireable in patent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968799) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: cyan school No, although they aren't particularly in demand. We don't look at what classes people took. We look at the listed name of your degree and your GPA. This is all client driven. We can't put "aerospace engineers" on some random company's mechanical work and say it's close enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968835) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm Not a lawyer so not familiar with the nuances of your clients' ignorance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968854) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:26 PM Author: Curious cream stag film pistol This guy's client is the black suit he's laid out for oci next week (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968857) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 12:04 AM Author: soul-stirring queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33969042) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: cyan school Not about ignorance. I can't even tell you how many times a candidate with some random major has told me with the classes they took, they pretty much could have a cs or ee degree. Nobody wants to hear it, you have the degree you have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968863) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:31 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm Except an AeroE degree ACTUALLY IS "pretty much" a MechE degree. It's 100% about ignorance that you don't know this. Look at the curriculum for each major. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968876) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:34 PM Author: cyan school I honestly don't know or care. I imagine it must vary from school to school. Regardless, I know clients at non-aero clients will not know what an aerospace engineering degree is and will not want to see such people working on their projects. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968888) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm Isn't there some mechanism by which your shitboomer clients can be brought up to speed on the most basic facts about various technical credentials?
"I honestly don't know" - this is pretty much what is meant by the word "ignorance," breh |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:42 PM Author: cyan school We don't see that many aero candidates, and we don't have that much of a need for mechE people anyways. They need to have rockstar credentials as well as interpersonal skills to have any chance. No incentive to try to accomodate obscure majors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968933) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: Curious cream stag film pistol Cr it's also the same department (MAE) at most schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968897) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:20 PM Author: Fishy big-titted church weed whacker For that matter, civil is probably 80% overlap with mechanical, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968823) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: cyan school Doesn't matter, auto-ding. Maybe if it was 80% cs/ee, they would have a shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968841) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 10:53 AM Author: cyan school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33970241) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:35 PM Author: Obsidian Vigorous Business Firm Why would you bump this thread? You got thoroughly gaped. Or do you still think being obscure and being unhelpful for patent law are the same thing? State your IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972701) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:39 PM Author: aqua exciting mood Lol at patents nerds having hierarchies in their sad little nerd world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972721) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: Racy senate milk (bs in biological anthropology) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972856) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 7:03 PM Author: cyan school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33973193) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2017 5:26 PM Author: cyan school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34123826) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2017 6:05 PM Author: spectacular topaz fat ankles I always think it's weird for CS people to call themselves "engineers." They must think it sounds cool or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34124127) |
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Date: September 18th, 2017 8:34 PM Author: cyan school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34239077) |