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Lol at people w obscure engineering degrees like "civil" interviewing for patent
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:39 PM Author: sooty roommate These are always auto-dings. Such poor career choices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967361) |
Date: August 11th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: confused field legal warrant I am an expert on the Engineering job market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967399) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home (Guy who doesn't know what "obscure" means) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967400) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: sooty roommate (civil engineer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967451) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home It's literally the LEAST "obscure" engineering field; there are more civil engineers than any other kind of engineer, you gigantic retard.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=engineers+people+employed |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:01 PM Author: talented elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967532) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:09 PM Author: sooty roommate Lol I don't give a shit about 56-yr old engineers from some bygone era hanging on for a few more years. In 2017, "civil" engineering is simply obscure, especially for people trying to muscle their way into patent law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967591) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: talented elastic band "I don't give a shit"
let me stop you there... you're a pumo. your opinion isn't important. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:12 PM Author: sooty roommate Ok let me rephrase. Nobody gives a shit about your obscure CivE degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967616) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:14 PM Author: talented elastic band let me rephrase.
you're a pumo. nobody gives a shit about your opinion as to who gives a shit or doesnt give a shit about particular engineering degrees. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home "Employment of civil engineers is projected to grow 8 percent from 2014 to 2024, about as fast as the average for all occupations."
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/civil-engineers.htm
It's a good thing you're already pumo, hey? |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:15 PM Author: talented elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967648) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: Lilac orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968689) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: Aromatic Set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968839) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:51 PM Author: talented elastic band (poli sci shithead) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967433) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: sooty roommate (civil engineer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967452) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:01 PM Author: talented elastic band always. a. pumo.
see above. you got pwn3d
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967499)
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: Maize Deep Generalized Bond Spot Civil engineer here. lol @ programmer fags. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967599) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home Tell us about your jerb
What stuff do you design? Do you enjoy it? How's the pay? What are the best and worst parts of the work? |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: Maize Deep Generalized Bond Spot My degree is BS Civil but I call myself a structural engineer. I design bridges. The pay is OK. The best part of my work, for me, it when I have to come up with a novel solution to a particular problem, or create a complex model of something. The worst part is midnight bridge inspections. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967720) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:25 PM Author: sooty roommate Had to be bridges (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967733) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:01 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home Can you tell us your pay and years of experience? Or approximately if you're worried about doobs or whatever.
How many hours per week do you typically work? How hard is it to find a job as a structural engineer? Both in terms of how you'd perceive the market for new graduates right now, and in terms of if you yourself were fired, how long it would take you to find a new job. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:22 PM Author: Maize Deep Generalized Bond Spot 15 years. I make an adequate income.
I work 40 hours a week normally. If there is a deadline I work as long as I have to to meet it. You will be paid straight time overtime unless you are management and on a salary. The market is regional and here (Chicago) the market has high demand for structural engineers of all levels, you will find a job. If I were fired I could find a job in Chicagoland pretty easily. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:10 PM Author: brindle pit Difficulty of FE/PE? There's a special extra test for structural, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968753) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:41 PM Author: Maize Deep Generalized Bond Spot FE is mildly difficult and best taken last year of school. PE is easy. SE (Structural Engineer) test is hard as fuck and has a lower pass rate than the bar, but its only required in a few states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972732) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:38 PM Author: motley onyx school curious what salary range for a real engineer is?
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Fat Ankles what i don't understand is why you need a ee to be a patent lawyer. like in undergrad what if i have no idea what ee even is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967604) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: sooty roommate Because there isn't much of a market for patenting bridges or whatever it is that civil engineers do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967629) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:14 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Fat Ankles but why can't a cive prosecution ee patents. one or two courses on circuits would suffice, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967637) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: territorial abode No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967673) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Fat Ankles but the ee knows how to patent the cure for cancer. got it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967682) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:23 PM Author: sooty roommate No they dont, you hire Bio PHDs for that, ee/cs for all the tech work, and you don't hire CivEs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967702) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:26 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Fat Ankles ee/cs knows how to patent a bridge, but meche doesn't know how to patent computer memory? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967738) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:27 PM Author: talented elastic band youre taking to moron (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967752) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:55 PM Author: sooty roommate I didn't say ee/cs know how to patent a bridge, there just isn't much demand for such a skill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968684) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: talented elastic band you don't. OP is flame.
biglaw ip lit cares more about law school and grades. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: Razzle Sweet Tailpipe True, but EE/CS is a big plus even for IP lit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967658) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:19 PM Author: talented elastic band depends on the firm. could be a big plus, or a slight plus.
the reality is that any ip lit candidate with a stem degree -- ee/cs or bio -- and who meets the school/grades cutoff will have tons of opportunities. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: azure geriatric idea he suggested address (It is 2010) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967685) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:36 PM Author: twisted menage sandwich you're a fucking idiot if you're going into IP lit in 2017 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967827) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:38 PM Author: azure geriatric idea he suggested address Cr. Unless ANDA/Biosimilars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967841) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: sooty roommate I didn't say biglaw ip lit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967724) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:15 PM Author: fishy hyperactive den french chef I was a patent litigator at a top firm with a philosophy degree lmao... I was writing claim construction briefs in billion dollar ANDA cases and had literally no clue what the fuck any of the words meant. it was pretty 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967650) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: talented elastic band tbf, i got an A in organic chem and i've written CC briefs in billion dollar anda cases and i dont have a fucking clue what the words mean either. patent lit is a fucking lulzy joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967659) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:17 PM Author: Razzle Sweet Tailpipe The judge/clerk writing the Markman order probably didn't have any clue what any of the words mean either. LJL at our patent system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967663) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: fishy hyperactive den french chef lol cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967669) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: talented elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967680) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:21 PM Author: azure geriatric idea he suggested address This is 100% true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967691) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: talented elastic band ITT: thread does *not* go as OP planned. always. a. pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967689) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:06 PM Author: overrated theater twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968426) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: Lilac orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968692) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968856) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:19 PM Author: territorial abode How about "industrial engineering" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968145) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:58 PM Author: Lilac orchestra pit (Ga Tech grad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968697) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:58 PM Author: sooty roommate That's right up. Civil, industrial, nuclear, aerospace, etc. All those people are auto-dings.
Also "systems engineering" or "general engineering." Those are the most lolzy. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Lilac orchestra pit One is not like the other. Civil Engineering is not an obscure field. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968708) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: sooty roommate It's equally useless for patent law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968736) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:02 PM Author: overrated theater twinkling uncleanness Know a few industrial/operations engineers in ip. Doesn't matter if you can sit for the patent bar and can be billed out. You seem dumb and about to go through oci. Good luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968710) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:10 PM Author: sooty roommate They won't get jobs unless they are 8+ females. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968754) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:11 PM Author: overrated theater twinkling uncleanness Neither will you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968762) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:04 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home You're further exposing your retardation. Aerospace engineering degrees have 95% curriculum overlap with mechanical engineering degrees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968721) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: sooty roommate sorry bro, they are unhirable in patent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968735) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:17 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home Are mechanical engineers unhireable in patent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968799) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: sooty roommate No, although they aren't particularly in demand. We don't look at what classes people took. We look at the listed name of your degree and your GPA. This is all client driven. We can't put "aerospace engineers" on some random company's mechanical work and say it's close enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968835) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home Not a lawyer so not familiar with the nuances of your clients' ignorance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968854) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:26 PM Author: overrated theater twinkling uncleanness This guy's client is the black suit he's laid out for oci next week (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968857) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 12:04 AM Author: Insecure meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33969042) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: sooty roommate Not about ignorance. I can't even tell you how many times a candidate with some random major has told me with the classes they took, they pretty much could have a cs or ee degree. Nobody wants to hear it, you have the degree you have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968863) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:31 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home Except an AeroE degree ACTUALLY IS "pretty much" a MechE degree. It's 100% about ignorance that you don't know this. Look at the curriculum for each major. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968876) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:34 PM Author: sooty roommate I honestly don't know or care. I imagine it must vary from school to school. Regardless, I know clients at non-aero clients will not know what an aerospace engineering degree is and will not want to see such people working on their projects. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968888) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home Isn't there some mechanism by which your shitboomer clients can be brought up to speed on the most basic facts about various technical credentials?
"I honestly don't know" - this is pretty much what is meant by the word "ignorance," breh |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:42 PM Author: sooty roommate We don't see that many aero candidates, and we don't have that much of a need for mechE people anyways. They need to have rockstar credentials as well as interpersonal skills to have any chance. No incentive to try to accomodate obscure majors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968933) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: overrated theater twinkling uncleanness Cr it's also the same department (MAE) at most schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968897) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:20 PM Author: brindle pit For that matter, civil is probably 80% overlap with mechanical, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968823) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: sooty roommate Doesn't matter, auto-ding. Maybe if it was 80% cs/ee, they would have a shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968841) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 10:53 AM Author: sooty roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33970241) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:35 PM Author: Cordovan Talking Home Why would you bump this thread? You got thoroughly gaped. Or do you still think being obscure and being unhelpful for patent law are the same thing? State your IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972701) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:39 PM Author: fear-inspiring comical internal respiration Lol at patents nerds having hierarchies in their sad little nerd world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972721) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: territorial abode (bs in biological anthropology) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972856) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 7:03 PM Author: sooty roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33973193) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2017 5:26 PM Author: sooty roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34123826) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2017 6:05 PM Author: Cerebral principal's office I always think it's weird for CS people to call themselves "engineers." They must think it sounds cool or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34124127) |
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Date: September 18th, 2017 8:34 PM Author: sooty roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34239077) |