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3L, no offers, GPA well below median, no debt. What do?

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vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
pre-law school experience? get out of law.
Violet locus mother
  08/30/17
Not much to speak of. Went to LS right out of undergrad.
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
get out of law.
Violet locus mother
  08/30/17
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Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
not really in law, is he
appetizing library persian
  08/30/17
i just gave up on law entirely. dont do anything other than ...
anal death wish main people
  08/30/17
what do u do
Frisky Trailer Park Internal Respiration
  08/30/17
work a job that has nothing to do with law and for which the...
anal death wish main people
  08/30/17
the no debt is good
Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
"no debt" scholarship or did daddy pay? if d...
wine fortuitous meteor
  08/30/17
Daddy Not dumb but had some personal issues 1L that reall...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
go work for Daddy then
wine fortuitous meteor
  08/30/17
Daddy is retired biglawyer
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
are you that dumb, incompetent or socially awkward that Dadd...
wine fortuitous meteor
  08/30/17
cq
cerebral lime nursing home ratface
  08/30/17
cq
Out-of-control Indigo Church Juggernaut
  08/30/17
cq
Violet locus mother
  08/30/17
tbf theres no shame in NOT getting your dad to help you find...
anal death wish main people
  08/30/17
If his alternative is joblessness, then yes, there is shame....
wine fortuitous meteor
  08/30/17
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rough-skinned kitty knife
  08/30/21
No, but I don't expect my parents to get me a job. I'm sure ...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
make daddy get you a job jfc
Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
All right I'll see what I can do, but I'm not counting on it...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
otherwise just go do something cool if you don't have any de...
Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
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Out-of-control Indigo Church Juggernaut
  08/30/17
This is a tough economy bro, especially for lawyers, and esp...
wine fortuitous meteor
  08/30/17
If he hooks me up I certainly won't turn it down
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
"personal issues"? You got a C in CivPro?
primrose half-breed nowag
  08/30/17
lmao
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/31/17
just do Runescape full time
vengeful bull headed range
  08/30/17
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vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
become a fly fishing guide in montana
soggy slate quadroon
  08/30/17
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cerebral lime nursing home ratface
  08/30/17
does it bother you that middling iq, slightly chubby, not-pr...
anal death wish main people
  08/30/17
Not especially
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
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Boyish Iridescent Community Account Indian Lodge
  10/12/22
what level school
sable coiffed bbw dilemma
  08/30/17
Top 50
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
Dude just do Shitlaw. Cop exp for a few yrs if everyone in u...
Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth
  08/30/17
lol fuck that. OP obviously isn't cut out to be a lawyer. He...
Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
I have a 103 IQ I'm lazy as fuck and I'm an amazing shitlawy...
Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth
  08/30/17
this is the first indication i've ever seen that you are not...
wine fortuitous meteor
  08/30/17
Is anyone cut out to be a lawyer? Isn't that why we're all d...
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
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Provocative frum institution
  08/30/17
I wasn't cut out for it until I was. I am a Shitlaw god now.
Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth
  08/30/17
What exactly is shitlaw? I picture it as lots of court appoi...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
Imagine your the hole in your clients mouth evincing a stenc...
Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth
  08/30/17
Hahaha
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
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Provocative frum institution
  08/30/17
JFC your dad is a biglaw partner and you go to some terrible...
sable coiffed bbw dilemma
  08/30/17
No he's retired
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/31/17
Biglaw fag who got his only adult job summer after 1L: "...
Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth
  08/30/17
Should my outlook be so bleak that I quit law just cuz I can...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
Have you thought about nonprofits? Start volunteering there...
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
I worked for a nonprofit once and it struck me as a scam. I ...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
The work is better than most other legal work, bro
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
Ok I'll keep that in mind
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
Do you have any actual desire to do that? Just go be a park ...
Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
CR park rangering is 180
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
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Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
Too late, plus I'd be letting my parents down more than I al...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
wtf in what fucking way is it "too late"? You're 2...
Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
I guess it's not man idk I'm feeling pessimistic now
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
No debt, 25, not yet traumatized by biglaw You have your ...
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
Thank you friend. I am open to life and whatever it has to o...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
need to grow your balls back. life is out there for the taki...
Umber Toaster
  08/30/17
I was in your position many years ago. I gave up on law and ...
impressive hell
  08/30/17
Do you do JD advantage or just ditched law forever?
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
Ditched law forever. Never even took the bar exam.
impressive hell
  08/30/17
180 This profession is killing me slowly
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
IMO, when the law firms no offered me, that's the biggest fa...
impressive hell
  08/30/17
I think I have depression thanks to law firms...fml You w...
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
Did you strike out, or did your summer firm NO OFFER you?
primrose half-breed nowag
  08/30/17
How did you get employers to ignore your JD?
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
Took me months to find something. I lucked into a hiring man...
impressive hell
  08/30/17
Sounds 180. I wonder how hard it'd be to switch gears if you...
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
yeah, I imagine you're neither gunning for an entry-level jo...
impressive hell
  08/30/17
Fortunately half my high school teachers were other professi...
Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry
  08/30/17
teaching is one thing I applied for as a 3L...and never even...
impressive hell
  08/30/17
do you genuinely think a serious legal job would be too diff...
supple depressive tattoo
  08/30/17
Yeah I could do biglaw for several years. It's where I've wa...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
if daddy has money work at most prestigious PI place you can...
Out-of-control Indigo Church Juggernaut
  08/30/17
if the strategy here is to fool people into thinking he had ...
supple depressive tattoo
  08/30/17
Been there. Copped biglaw. Very odd route. Hard to advise - ...
garnet heaven
  08/30/17
This weekend I'll touch base with contacts I've made and let...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
honestly... best strategy here... just do doc review for som...
supple depressive tattoo
  08/30/17
i was in your position except i had debt. still in law, mak...
Misanthropic theatre
  08/30/17
you're better off. biglaw sucks
Galvanic Demanding Base Pozpig
  08/30/17
I tell myself this...but I'd still jump at the opportunity. ...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/17
C R Y P T O
Nudist blue legal warrant field
  08/30/17
DA or PDs office. They've been known to hire mouthbreathers....
Vigorous lay
  08/31/17
*a T4, actually: http://www.queensda.org/newpressreleases...
primrose half-breed nowag
  08/31/17
First, if he's that hard up, perhaps a less *prestigious* of...
Vigorous lay
  08/31/17
Don't expect to get any helpful advice here. Poasters would ...
Fluffy floppy french chef
  08/31/17
Thanks
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/31/17
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Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth
  08/31/17
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talented underhanded office indirect expression
  09/02/17
Military- bigfed
insecure theater stage
  08/31/17
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but maybe try for a complia...
Crawly Cuck Bawdyhouse
  09/02/17
you can still make it in shitlaw. go be a prosecutor in some...
Apoplectic Spectacular Resort
  09/04/17
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bonkers frozen corner national security agency
  09/20/17
poast on xo
obsidian mad cow disease
  09/20/17
OP here 4 years later, taking Q's
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/21
How'd things turn out?
massive address
  08/30/21
I got a shitlaw job in Are Country at a firm that has been r...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/21
practice area?
Very tactful drunken gunner
  08/30/21
PI
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/21
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Henna athletic conference
  08/30/21
what did you do instead?
Arousing self-centered meetinghouse boiling water
  08/30/21
I finished up law school and got a shitlaw job.
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/21
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Light market
  08/30/21
Update?
mentally impaired twinkling becky house
  08/30/21
Why were you unwilling to let your dad help you find a job b...
aromatic carmine center mad-dog skullcap
  08/30/21
I guess I'm a hypocrite in that sense
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/21
Glad it's working out. Good for you. What cslg methods a...
Motley Rusted Forum
  08/30/21
Both. The network of doctors is standard, but the business c...
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/21
what is commercial litigation
Very tactful drunken gunner
  08/30/21
Business matters
vivacious brethren philosopher-king
  08/30/21


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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:17 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103108)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:17 PM
Author: Violet locus mother

pre-law school experience?

get out of law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103110)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:19 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Not much to speak of. Went to LS right out of undergrad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103131)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:20 PM
Author: Violet locus mother

get out of law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103136)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:25 PM
Author: Umber Toaster



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Date: August 30th, 2017 9:41 PM
Author: appetizing library persian

not really in law, is he

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34104524)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:17 PM
Author: anal death wish main people

i just gave up on law entirely. dont do anything other than biglaw or solo or quit law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103113)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:18 PM
Author: Frisky Trailer Park Internal Respiration

what do u do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103120)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:19 PM
Author: anal death wish main people

work a job that has nothing to do with law and for which the jd was a negative if anything. tbh your life is probably fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103130)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:25 PM
Author: Umber Toaster

the no debt is good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103181)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:19 PM
Author: wine fortuitous meteor

"no debt"

scholarship or did daddy pay?

if daddy paid, go work in his business?

also are you dumb or just hate law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103124)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:20 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Daddy

Not dumb but had some personal issues 1L that really fucked me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103138)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: wine fortuitous meteor

go work for Daddy then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103140)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Daddy is retired biglawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103145)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: wine fortuitous meteor

are you that dumb, incompetent or socially awkward that Daddy can't hook you up with a job somewhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103152)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: cerebral lime nursing home ratface

cq

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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: Out-of-control Indigo Church Juggernaut

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103155)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: Violet locus mother

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103158)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: anal death wish main people

tbf theres no shame in NOT getting your dad to help you find a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103171)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: wine fortuitous meteor

If his alternative is joblessness, then yes, there is shame. He is a no-offered 3L with shitty grades in a shitty economy with an expensive degree his father paid for. He needs to rely on connections at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103211)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 6:25 PM
Author: rough-skinned kitty knife



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

No, but I don't expect my parents to get me a job. I'm sure he knows people, but they don't want me banking on it so it's not like they're gonna tell me that they'll hook me up. I'm not dumb or socially awkward or incompetent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103174)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:26 PM
Author: Umber Toaster

make daddy get you a job jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103186)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:26 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

All right I'll see what I can do, but I'm not counting on it yknow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103195)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:34 PM
Author: Umber Toaster

otherwise just go do something cool if you don't have any debt. Just count law school as a dumb 3 year vacation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103263)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:41 PM
Author: Out-of-control Indigo Church Juggernaut



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:26 PM
Author: wine fortuitous meteor

This is a tough economy bro, especially for lawyers, and especially for law students with below median GPAs. There's no shame on asking Daddy for help. I'm sure he would be much more unhappy with you not working at all after paying for that education.

You are being stubborn and stupid, and cutting off your nose to spite your face. Stop it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103187)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:31 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

If he hooks me up I certainly won't turn it down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103232)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 11:47 PM
Author: primrose half-breed nowag

"personal issues"? You got a C in CivPro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105427)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 1:00 AM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105721)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:19 PM
Author: vengeful bull headed range

just do Runescape full time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103126)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: soggy slate quadroon

become a fly fishing guide in montana

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103165)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: cerebral lime nursing home ratface



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:28 PM
Author: anal death wish main people

does it bother you that middling iq, slightly chubby, not-pretty white/asian women from awful schools who sound like idiots in their interviews and know nothing about anything and dress like morons waltz into white collar jobs/careers because the boomer male in charge of the office trembles with lust at the thought of smooth skin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103205)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:30 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Not especially

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103220)



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Date: October 12th, 2022 7:25 AM
Author: Boyish Iridescent Community Account Indian Lodge



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: sable coiffed bbw dilemma

what level school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103212)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:30 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Top 50

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103227)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:32 PM
Author: Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth

Dude just do Shitlaw. Cop exp for a few yrs if everyone in ur jsdx knows how shitty ur gpa is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103239)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:35 PM
Author: Umber Toaster

lol fuck that. OP obviously isn't cut out to be a lawyer. He should do something cool with his life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103275)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:36 PM
Author: Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth

I have a 103 IQ I'm lazy as fuck and I'm an amazing shitlawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103287)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:37 PM
Author: wine fortuitous meteor

this is the first indication i've ever seen that you are not in fact BP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103310)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:36 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

Is anyone cut out to be a lawyer? Isn't that why we're all depressed alcoholics? Because none of us are cut out for it except the coke fiends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103290)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: Provocative frum institution



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth

I wasn't cut out for it until I was. I am a Shitlaw god now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103375)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

What exactly is shitlaw? I picture it as lots of court appointed stuff by I've never seen it defined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103400)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:51 PM
Author: Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth

Imagine your the hole in your clients mouth evincing a stench so sweet it reminds you of a swine truck on the highway. If you do that you will begin to know Shitlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103456)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:57 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Hahaha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103508)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: Provocative frum institution



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Date: August 30th, 2017 9:40 PM
Author: sable coiffed bbw dilemma

JFC your dad is a biglaw partner and you go to some terrible fucking law school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34104512)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:59 AM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

No he's retired

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105718)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth

Biglaw fag who got his only adult job summer after 1L: "DUDE UR SO FUCKED GET OUT OF LAW"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103213)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:37 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Should my outlook be so bleak that I quit law just cuz I can't get biglaw? It's not like I need to make money right away. I could just start my own hustle and build that up right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103298)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

Have you thought about nonprofits? Start volunteering there and see if you like it - Non profits are full of rich kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103316)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:42 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

I worked for a nonprofit once and it struck me as a scam. I am skeptical about how fulfilling that work would be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103362)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

The work is better than most other legal work, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103369)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:44 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Ok I'll keep that in mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103378)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Umber Toaster

Do you have any actual desire to do that? Just go be a park ranger or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103321)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:39 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

CR park rangering is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103326)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: Umber Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103396)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:40 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Too late, plus I'd be letting my parents down more than I already have. I do have that desire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103335)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: Umber Toaster

wtf in what fucking way is it "too late"? You're 25 and don't have any debt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103392)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

I guess it's not man idk I'm feeling pessimistic now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103442)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:51 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

No debt, 25, not yet traumatized by biglaw

You have your whole life ahead of you, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103451)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:52 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Thank you friend. I am open to life and whatever it has to offer me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103468)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:56 PM
Author: Umber Toaster

need to grow your balls back. life is out there for the taking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103497)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: impressive hell

I was in your position many years ago. I gave up on law and have never regretted it.

Just treat law school as a stupid 3 year vacation you took. Don't chase sunk costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103371)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

Do you do JD advantage or just ditched law forever?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103376)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:44 PM
Author: impressive hell

Ditched law forever. Never even took the bar exam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103380)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

180

This profession is killing me slowly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103387)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:46 PM
Author: impressive hell

IMO, when the law firms no offered me, that's the biggest favor anyone ever did me. I just didn't realize it at the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103402)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

I think I have depression thanks to law firms...fml

You won the lotto, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103432)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 11:56 PM
Author: primrose half-breed nowag

Did you strike out, or did your summer firm NO OFFER you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105486)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

How did you get employers to ignore your JD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103395)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:48 PM
Author: impressive hell

Took me months to find something. I lucked into a hiring manager who was also a non-practicing JD.

Once I got some experience, nobody even read the education section of my resume. Also, I like to think that not taking the bar helped me, because it allowed me to easily prove I was not just going to leave the moment somebody offered me a law job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103422)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

Sounds 180. I wonder how hard it'd be to switch gears if you've worked for years in law...I feel I'd have to do a complete reset, like get a teaching master's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103438)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: impressive hell

yeah, I imagine you're neither gunning for an entry-level job that a 24 year old would be happy with, nor likely to be seriously considered for such a job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103482)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: Amethyst Excitant Dingle Berry

Fortunately half my high school teachers were other profession burn outs - so there is still hoap!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103484)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:55 PM
Author: impressive hell

teaching is one thing I applied for as a 3L...and never even got an interview for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103491)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:02 PM
Author: supple depressive tattoo

do you genuinely think a serious legal job would be too difficult for you? i.e., do you think you are capable of doing BIGLAW for several years and your grades were just a fluke?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103538)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 11:21 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Yeah I could do biglaw for several years. It's where I've wanted to be ever since I was a young kid and my dad brought me to his office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105286)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:04 PM
Author: Out-of-control Indigo Church Juggernaut

if daddy has money work at most prestigious PI place you can find, even volunteer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103562)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: supple depressive tattoo

if the strategy here is to fool people into thinking he had options and chose that to get experience in something interesting, it's not going to work because of his law school and class rank. If he was borderline and got unlucky, that would have probably worked.

if the strategy is to just do that because it's interesting and stable and just live off Daddy's trust fund, then titcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103572)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: garnet heaven

Been there. Copped biglaw. Very odd route. Hard to advise - you're in a legitimately tough spot.

Try to keep your hands busy. Meet as many people as you can, do as much pt type work as you can, and this above all, BE AS LIBERAL AND JEWISH AS POSSIBLE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103593)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:21 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

This weekend I'll touch base with contacts I've made and let them know I still exist. I have a few leads but no offers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103646)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:11 PM
Author: supple depressive tattoo

honestly... best strategy here... just do doc review for some stable big law firms where you can network. they won't make you an associate, but might feed you more work if you do a good job and bill reasonably... best case scenario (though unlikely) is that they make you a practice attorney.

advantages to this: good cash, flexible hours, you can probably just work 20 hours a week and make a decent living.

disadvantages: you will likely be treated like shit and even if you are not, the work will be boring as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103610)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 9:16 PM
Author: Misanthropic theatre

i was in your position except i had debt. still in law, making low six figures in government.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34104318)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: Galvanic Demanding Base Pozpig

you're better off. biglaw sucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34104433)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 11:23 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

I tell myself this...but I'd still jump at the opportunity. I figure if biglaw sucks I could just lateral out to a smaller firm that doesn't require as many billables per year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105294)



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Date: August 30th, 2017 9:36 PM
Author: Nudist blue legal warrant field

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34104478)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:07 AM
Author: Vigorous lay

DA or PDs office. They've been known to hire mouthbreathers. Especially from a T50.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105537)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:14 AM
Author: primrose half-breed nowag

*a T4, actually:

http://www.queensda.org/newpressreleases/2016/SEPT%202016/ada_fall_2016_class.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105569)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:18 AM
Author: Vigorous lay

First, if he's that hard up, perhaps a less *prestigious* office than Queens.

Second, did you look at that list? Fordham? Hofstra? NYLS? Not exactly T4.

EDIT: Hi Sam :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105594)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Fluffy floppy french chef

Don't expect to get any helpful advice here. Poasters would have you believe that anyone who graduated below median is fucked and might as well work at Starbucks.

I know plenty of people who graduated below median at T25 ITE circa 2009-11 that couldn't find shit for the first 6 months and were legit depressed. All of them eventually found something and several are in pretty good positions now. How did they do it? I'm not sure but it wasn't the Biglaw route. The job market is much better these days so maybe look for contract administrator type work, doc review, law clerk for a state court judge or prosecutor, public defender, find some shitlaw office that'll pay you shit but give you experience, look for govt work at Fed, State and local level, gotta get creative with your search.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105573)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 1:01 AM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105724)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 10:25 AM
Author: Multi-colored transparent halford scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34107089)



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Date: September 2nd, 2017 10:41 AM
Author: talented underhanded office indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34121568)



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Date: August 31st, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: insecure theater stage

Military- bigfed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34107054)



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Date: September 2nd, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: Crawly Cuck Bawdyhouse

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but maybe try for a compliance gig. You can work your way up compliance or maybe move over to legal at some point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34121581)



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Date: September 4th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: Apoplectic Spectacular Resort

you can still make it in shitlaw. go be a prosecutor in some rural jurisdiction where nobody wants to work. you'll get trial experience and can then go join the defense bar or just be a bitch prosecutor making $90K a year at peak earning. some prosecutors transition into other stuff pretty well. but your only chance to be valuable and hirable is a skilled 'courtroom' attorney.

nobody is going to give you a good job based on your current credentials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34138559)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 8:27 PM
Author: bonkers frozen corner national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34254879)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 8:30 PM
Author: obsidian mad cow disease

poast on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34254895)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:44 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

OP here 4 years later, taking Q's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034853)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:46 PM
Author: massive address

How'd things turn out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034863)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:51 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

I got a shitlaw job in Are Country at a firm that has been really good to me. If you had told me 4 years ago it would turn out this way, I would have been shocked.

I have been an exemplary employee, and I have used CSLG principles to create referral sources for myself that have paid big dividends. I am going to leave this firm soon, mainly because I just don't feel cut out for being an employee or even a partner. I know I can do better for myself and hopefully soon-to-be family as a solo practitioner.

I invested in LINK, SOL and FTM early enough along to where I have a cushion of money that will last me several months while I'm getting started (not that I think I will need it).

I'm happy. I am not defined by law school. I am who I am, and I like who I am. Can't wait to see what the future holds. I think I will probably practice law for 15 or so more years, and then I will take cases rarely and live off of investments after that while chasing good weather.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034907)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 5:13 PM
Author: Very tactful drunken gunner

practice area?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43035050)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 5:14 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

PI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43035057)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:46 PM
Author: Henna athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034871)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:47 PM
Author: Arousing self-centered meetinghouse boiling water

what did you do instead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034881)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:52 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

I finished up law school and got a shitlaw job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034918)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:48 PM
Author: Light market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034883)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:49 PM
Author: mentally impaired twinkling becky house

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034892)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:49 PM
Author: aromatic carmine center mad-dog skullcap

Why were you unwilling to let your dad help you find a job but willing to let him pay for lol school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034894)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 4:51 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

I guess I'm a hypocrite in that sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43034911)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 5:11 PM
Author: Motley Rusted Forum

Glad it's working out. Good for you.

What cslg methods are you using? Network of doctors who prescribe injections or giving a business card to everyone you meet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43035033)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 5:14 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Both. The network of doctors is standard, but the business card strategy is great because yes it gets you clients, but it also shows that you are a hustler, and people will want to work with you when they get that impression. I will be able to do commercial litigation with the connections I've made because businessmen recognize when someone is driven, and that's who they want to work with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43035055)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 5:30 PM
Author: Very tactful drunken gunner

what is commercial litigation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43035171)



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Date: August 30th, 2021 6:19 PM
Author: vivacious brethren philosopher-king

Business matters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#43035481)