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UC Berkeley v. University of Chicago for undergrad

if you're in-state CA
Salmon costumed stock car stage
  09/12/17
18 year old me? Chicago. Now? Berkeley. No question.
Sickened piazza
  09/12/17
why the change
Salmon costumed stock car stage
  09/12/17
Realizes the beauty and splendor of teen goosh.
Lemon Kitchen
  09/12/17
here's what you do. you take the two financial aid packages...
Federal Saffron Meetinghouse
  09/12/17
top schools offer generous finaid packages.
marvelous ocher locale feces
  09/12/17
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laughsome naked location
  09/12/17
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cream charismatic garrison sound barrier
  09/12/17
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pink concupiscible public bath
  09/12/17
"good school" would be Berkeley good luck keeping...
pink concupiscible public bath
  09/12/17
Shitloads of people transfer from CC to Berkeley and UCLA. ...
fishy comical heaven
  09/12/17
if you live in CA, that's probably the smart play
plum talented range fanboi
  09/12/17
you work for a CC? how much hard STEM stuff does your CC ...
plum talented range fanboi
  09/12/17
a couple of good ones. here is the key--find a CC with &quo...
Federal Saffron Meetinghouse
  09/12/17
Berkeley EECS
fishy comical heaven
  09/12/17
Berkeley if your instate - Still the best deal a Californian...
Dead floppy spot
  09/12/17
Also more prestige in CA than Chicago.
fishy comical heaven
  09/12/17
Total Cost of Attendance $34,400 (per year) http://financ...
plum talented range fanboi
  09/12/17
WOW FOR IN STATE? HOLY SHIT
Dead floppy spot
  09/12/17
tbf, room and board is a significantly higher fraction of th...
plum talented range fanboi
  09/12/17
it's $14k for tuition
Electric abusive becky
  09/12/17
what a fucking ripoff
cream charismatic garrison sound barrier
  09/12/17
http://blog.collegetuitioncompare.com/2012/12/university-of-...
Salmon costumed stock car stage
  09/12/17
LJL at tuition doubling in 10 years
fishy comical heaven
  09/12/17
Tripling for in state!
Dead floppy spot
  09/12/17
both seem like they'd be miserable experiences
Khaki Property Turdskin
  09/12/17
Berkeley for all its flaws is still a huge public school wit...
fishy comical heaven
  09/12/17
Yeah, I'm sure that's true. I just hate everything that shit...
Khaki Property Turdskin
  09/12/17
yeah, i want to say chicago is the pick because you are auto...
Irradiated organic girlfriend nibblets
  09/12/17
I know legit mouthbreathers who went there...granted i am ea...
Exhilarant Chestnut Site
  09/13/17
sure. and they just tripped over their 1590's, right? i'm g...
Irradiated organic girlfriend nibblets
  09/13/17
When i applied to college it was a joke to get into uc..admi...
Exhilarant Chestnut Site
  09/13/17
fine, you have a small penis, you aren't very bright, and yo...
Irradiated organic girlfriend nibblets
  09/13/17
(PROLE)
henna confused corner
  09/12/17
true, im more of a directional state school kinda guy
Khaki Property Turdskin
  09/12/17
berkeley in state >>>> everything but HPYS
Electric abusive becky
  09/12/17
poors can go to shit Ivies for free
pink concupiscible public bath
  09/12/17
well yeah im assuming you're paying tuitiion in all these ca...
Electric abusive becky
  09/12/17
this is a shitty straw man in these conversations there's...
plum talented range fanboi
  09/12/17
If money is no object, obviously Chicago. If the choice i...
cream charismatic garrison sound barrier
  09/12/17
why is it obvious they're academically equal I guess Chica...
pink concupiscible public bath
  09/12/17
It's not obvious. If you are from CA you are way better off...
fishy comical heaven
  09/12/17
even not doing stem lol @ anyone choosing to go to chicag...
Electric abusive becky
  09/12/17
I keep trying to come up with academic reasons why Chicago i...
pink concupiscible public bath
  09/12/17
Also no engineering school at Chicago. Math and CS only.
fishy comical heaven
  09/12/17
and berkeley even has a UG business school for any chads and...
Khaki Property Turdskin
  09/12/17
Engineering is a trade. If you want to go to trade school, f...
cream charismatic garrison sound barrier
  09/12/17
(English major forced into law school due to no jerb prospec...
Exhilarant Chestnut Site
  09/13/17
Why even bother going to college if you arent doing hard STE...
Exhilarant Chestnut Site
  09/13/17
They're not academically equal: anachronistic shitlib flame....
cream charismatic garrison sound barrier
  09/12/17
Two words: Asian girls
Flickering Sapphire Hospital
  09/12/17
Ungh
territorial business firm dingle berry
  09/13/17
http://www.collegeconfidential.com/wp-content/themes/hobsons...
cream charismatic garrison sound barrier
  09/13/17
Cal not even close
Aphrodisiac alcoholic nursing home dysfunction
  09/13/17


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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Salmon costumed stock car stage

if you're in-state CA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191657)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:05 AM
Author: Sickened piazza

18 year old me? Chicago. Now? Berkeley. No question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191674)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: Salmon costumed stock car stage

why the change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191713)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: Lemon Kitchen

Realizes the beauty and splendor of teen goosh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193789)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: Federal Saffron Meetinghouse

here's what you do. you take the two financial aid packages and you put them on the table. you then light them on fire and put them in the sink.

then, you apply to CC with some type of hard STEM. you murder it. get As. transfer to a good school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191706)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: marvelous ocher locale feces

top schools offer generous finaid packages.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191715)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:40 AM
Author: laughsome naked location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191857)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: cream charismatic garrison sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192216)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: pink concupiscible public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192222)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:38 AM
Author: pink concupiscible public bath

"good school" would be Berkeley

good luck keeping up after 2 years of shit training at CC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191845)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:53 AM
Author: fishy comical heaven

Shitloads of people transfer from CC to Berkeley and UCLA. People turn down freshman admissions to lower UCs to do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191964)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: plum talented range fanboi

if you live in CA, that's probably the smart play

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192035)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: plum talented range fanboi

you work for a CC?

how much hard STEM stuff does your CC offer?

I looked at the hard STEM offerings at CCs a while back (not CA, where I guess the CC system is more developed)

and the options in terms of credits you could transfer into an engineering program or CS program at the big state school were pretty shitty

you could probably knock out all the gen ed requirement, but actually getting classes that would count towards a STEM major past the intro classes weren't that good

to get an engineering degree or a CS degree, you were probably still looking at 3 more years

(this was 10 or so years ago, so maybe they've really improved the offerings since then, idk)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192029)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: Federal Saffron Meetinghouse

a couple of good ones. here is the key--find a CC with "articulation agreements" in place. ask the physics/engineering office who they have articulation agreements with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192408)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: fishy comical heaven

Berkeley EECS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191831)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:40 AM
Author: Dead floppy spot

Berkeley if your instate - Still the best deal a Californian can get WRT to higher education and future opportunities assuming tuition isn't fucking insane now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191867)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: fishy comical heaven

Also more prestige in CA than Chicago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191877)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: plum talented range fanboi

Total Cost of Attendance $34,400 (per year)

http://financialaid.berkeley.edu/cost-attendance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191885)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: Dead floppy spot

WOW FOR IN STATE?

HOLY SHIT



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191894)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: plum talented range fanboi

tbf, room and board is a significantly higher fraction of the cost of attending Berkeley than it is for nearly any other school, RE costs and all

but yeah, Beckersted's analysis looking better and better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191957)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: Electric abusive becky

it's $14k for tuition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192221)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: cream charismatic garrison sound barrier

what a fucking ripoff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192220)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Salmon costumed stock car stage

http://blog.collegetuitioncompare.com/2012/12/university-of-california-berkeley-uc.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191961)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:53 AM
Author: fishy comical heaven

LJL at tuition doubling in 10 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191969)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:54 AM
Author: Dead floppy spot

Tripling for in state!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191974)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: Khaki Property Turdskin

both seem like they'd be miserable experiences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192119)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: fishy comical heaven

Berkeley for all its flaws is still a huge public school with sports, frats, at least some hot girls - you can definitely have fun there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192123)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Khaki Property Turdskin

Yeah, I'm sure that's true. I just hate everything that shitlib institution stands for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192129)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: Irradiated organic girlfriend nibblets

yeah, i want to say chicago is the pick because you are auto smart if you go there, but that's outweighed by these things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193742)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:06 AM
Author: Exhilarant Chestnut Site

I know legit mouthbreathers who went there...granted i am early 30s, but i am not impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197939)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: Irradiated organic girlfriend nibblets

sure. and they just tripped over their 1590's, right?

i'm going to revise and put it this way.

anyone who would apply to chicago and berkeley should choose uc if they get in. you've already indicated that you are more concerned about being a brainiac than having a typical, fun college experience. therefore, choose the brainiac school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197991)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Exhilarant Chestnut Site

When i applied to college it was a joke to get into uc..admissions rate was like 40% and avg sat was low

I would never pick a school w/o a good engineering program. There is pretty much no reason to go to school otherwise.

Most majors are unemployable..just do CS or EECS and get paid 120k starting at 22 easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34198015)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:55 AM
Author: Irradiated organic girlfriend nibblets

fine, you have a small penis, you aren't very bright, and you're a shitlib. choosing berkely over uc was a mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34198110)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: henna confused corner

(PROLE)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192185)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: Khaki Property Turdskin

true, im more of a directional state school kinda guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192191)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: Electric abusive becky

berkeley in state >>>> everything but HPYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192149)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: pink concupiscible public bath

poors can go to shit Ivies for free

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192194)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: Electric abusive becky

well yeah im assuming you're paying tuitiion in all these cases, otherwise you'd get more aid at berkeley too, try to keep up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192198)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: plum talented range fanboi

this is a shitty straw man in these conversations

there's a middle ground between grew up in a trailer park, so the Ivy's will just comp tuition

and parents are millionaires who are totally price insensitive

----------

the vast majority of students who will qualify for any of these schools have parents who are right in the zone to soaked of a substantial percentage of their net worth

think, parents combined make $150K or so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192234)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: cream charismatic garrison sound barrier

If money is no object, obviously Chicago.

If the choice is between < 10,000/y and > 60,000/y, obviously Berkeley.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192215)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: pink concupiscible public bath

why is it obvious

they're academically equal

I guess Chicago is more exclusive (far fewer spots) does that matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192240)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: fishy comical heaven

It's not obvious. If you are from CA you are way better off attending Berkeley, doing STEM, and copping a tech jerb in CA than spending 4 years at U Chicago for the same price. All SV firms recruit heavily from Berkeley.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192249)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:38 AM
Author: Electric abusive becky

even not doing stem

lol @ anyone choosing to go to chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192259)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: pink concupiscible public bath

I keep trying to come up with academic reasons why Chicago is CR (great math dept, econ, etc) then I remember Berkeley is just as good or better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192264)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: fishy comical heaven

Also no engineering school at Chicago. Math and CS only.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192269)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: Khaki Property Turdskin

and berkeley even has a UG business school for any chads and beckys who end up there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192281)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: cream charismatic garrison sound barrier

Engineering is a trade. If you want to go to trade school, fine.

Even then, you're better off attending a private institution, because presumably there will be more resources in terms of academic and career advising, and more research opportunities, because you're not competing with Chang, Pradeep, and Ahmed *100 for Prof. Shlomoshekelbergstein's attention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192312)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: Exhilarant Chestnut Site

(English major forced into law school due to no jerb prospects)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197949)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: Exhilarant Chestnut Site

Why even bother going to college if you arent doing hard STEM these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197946)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: cream charismatic garrison sound barrier

They're not academically equal: anachronistic shitlib flame.

Exclusivity does matter, for the same reason that you'd rather go to CLS than GULC, work at BCG than PWC.

It's a signal of socioeconomic class, intelligence, and work ethic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192283)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: Flickering Sapphire Hospital

Two words: Asian girls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193041)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: territorial business firm dingle berry

Ungh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197745)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: cream charismatic garrison sound barrier

http://www.collegeconfidential.com/wp-content/themes/hobsons/images/banner_img.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197784)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:18 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac alcoholic nursing home dysfunction

Cal not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197996)