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UC Berkeley v. University of Chicago for undergrad

if you're in-state CA
''"'''"'''"'
  09/12/17
18 year old me? Chicago. Now? Berkeley. No question.
american sellcuck8
  09/12/17
why the change
''"'''"'''"'
  09/12/17
Realizes the beauty and splendor of teen goosh.
twins
  09/12/17
here's what you do. you take the two financial aid packages...
t. beckersted
  09/12/17
top schools offer generous finaid packages.
where I demonstrated my intellectual honesty
  09/12/17
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boner_police
  09/12/17
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CapTTTainFalcon
  09/12/17
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  09/12/17
"good school" would be Berkeley good luck keeping...
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII
  09/12/17
Shitloads of people transfer from CC to Berkeley and UCLA. ...
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  09/12/17
if you live in CA, that's probably the smart play
Barack Carcetti
  09/12/17
you work for a CC? how much hard STEM stuff does your CC ...
Barack Carcetti
  09/12/17
a couple of good ones. here is the key--find a CC with &quo...
t. beckersted
  09/12/17
Berkeley EECS
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  09/12/17
Berkeley if your instate - Still the best deal a Californian...
Refunkulus
  09/12/17
Also more prestige in CA than Chicago.
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  09/12/17
Total Cost of Attendance $34,400 (per year) http://financ...
Barack Carcetti
  09/12/17
WOW FOR IN STATE? HOLY SHIT
Refunkulus
  09/12/17
tbf, room and board is a significantly higher fraction of th...
Barack Carcetti
  09/12/17
it's $14k for tuition
Non sequitur
  09/12/17
what a fucking ripoff
CapTTTainFalcon
  09/12/17
http://blog.collegetuitioncompare.com/2012/12/university-of-...
''"'''"'''"'
  09/12/17
LJL at tuition doubling in 10 years
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  09/12/17
Tripling for in state!
Refunkulus
  09/12/17
both seem like they'd be miserable experiences
Judas Jones
  09/12/17
Berkeley for all its flaws is still a huge public school wit...
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  09/12/17
Yeah, I'm sure that's true. I just hate everything that shit...
Judas Jones
  09/12/17
yeah, i want to say chicago is the pick because you are auto...
sealclubber
  09/12/17
I know legit mouthbreathers who went there...granted i am ea...
....,;;;.;....;.........;..;.;;;;....
  09/13/17
sure. and they just tripped over their 1590's, right? i'm g...
sealclubber
  09/13/17
When i applied to college it was a joke to get into uc..admi...
....,;;;.;....;.........;..;.;;;;....
  09/13/17
fine, you have a small penis, you aren't very bright, and yo...
sealclubber
  09/13/17
(PROLE)
;;;..;....;......,,,
  09/12/17
true, im more of a directional state school kinda guy
Judas Jones
  09/12/17
berkeley in state >>>> everything but HPYS
Non sequitur
  09/12/17
poors can go to shit Ivies for free
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII
  09/12/17
well yeah im assuming you're paying tuitiion in all these ca...
Non sequitur
  09/12/17
this is a shitty straw man in these conversations there's...
Barack Carcetti
  09/12/17
If money is no object, obviously Chicago. If the choice i...
CapTTTainFalcon
  09/12/17
why is it obvious they're academically equal I guess Chica...
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII
  09/12/17
It's not obvious. If you are from CA you are way better off...
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  09/12/17
even not doing stem lol @ anyone choosing to go to chicag...
Non sequitur
  09/12/17
I keep trying to come up with academic reasons why Chicago i...
.;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII
  09/12/17
Also no engineering school at Chicago. Math and CS only.
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  09/12/17
and berkeley even has a UG business school for any chads and...
Judas Jones
  09/12/17
Engineering is a trade. If you want to go to trade school, f...
CapTTTainFalcon
  09/12/17
(English major forced into law school due to no jerb prospec...
....,;;;.;....;.........;..;.;;;;....
  09/13/17
Why even bother going to college if you arent doing hard STE...
....,;;;.;....;.........;..;.;;;;....
  09/13/17
They're not academically equal: anachronistic shitlib flame....
CapTTTainFalcon
  09/12/17
Two words: Asian girls
The cream and the clear
  09/12/17
Ungh
latin america independent film star
  09/13/17
http://www.collegeconfidential.com/wp-content/themes/hobsons...
CapTTTainFalcon
  09/13/17
Cal not even close
*<[]:D
  09/13/17


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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: ''"'''"'''"'


if you're in-state CA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191657)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:05 AM
Author: american sellcuck8 (sellcuck)

18 year old me? Chicago. Now? Berkeley. No question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191674)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: ''"'''"'''"'


why the change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191713)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: twins

Realizes the beauty and splendor of teen goosh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193789)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: t. beckersted

here's what you do. you take the two financial aid packages and you put them on the table. you then light them on fire and put them in the sink.

then, you apply to CC with some type of hard STEM. you murder it. get As. transfer to a good school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191706)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: where I demonstrated my intellectual honesty

top schools offer generous finaid packages.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191715)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:40 AM
Author: boner_police



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191857)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192216)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192222)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:38 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII


"good school" would be Berkeley

good luck keeping up after 2 years of shit training at CC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191845)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:53 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

Shitloads of people transfer from CC to Berkeley and UCLA. People turn down freshman admissions to lower UCs to do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191964)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: Barack Carcetti

if you live in CA, that's probably the smart play

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192035)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: Barack Carcetti

you work for a CC?

how much hard STEM stuff does your CC offer?

I looked at the hard STEM offerings at CCs a while back (not CA, where I guess the CC system is more developed)

and the options in terms of credits you could transfer into an engineering program or CS program at the big state school were pretty shitty

you could probably knock out all the gen ed requirement, but actually getting classes that would count towards a STEM major past the intro classes weren't that good

to get an engineering degree or a CS degree, you were probably still looking at 3 more years

(this was 10 or so years ago, so maybe they've really improved the offerings since then, idk)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192029)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: t. beckersted

a couple of good ones. here is the key--find a CC with "articulation agreements" in place. ask the physics/engineering office who they have articulation agreements with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192408)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

Berkeley EECS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191831)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:40 AM
Author: Refunkulus (never count out a MUSCLE NUT)

Berkeley if your instate - Still the best deal a Californian can get WRT to higher education and future opportunities assuming tuition isn't fucking insane now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191867)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:42 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

Also more prestige in CA than Chicago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191877)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: Barack Carcetti

Total Cost of Attendance $34,400 (per year)

http://financialaid.berkeley.edu/cost-attendance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191885)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: Refunkulus (never count out a MUSCLE NUT)

WOW FOR IN STATE?

HOLY SHIT



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191894)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Barack Carcetti

tbf, room and board is a significantly higher fraction of the cost of attending Berkeley than it is for nearly any other school, RE costs and all

but yeah, Beckersted's analysis looking better and better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191957)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: Non sequitur

it's $14k for tuition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192221)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

what a fucking ripoff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192220)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: ''"'''"'''"'


http://blog.collegetuitioncompare.com/2012/12/university-of-california-berkeley-uc.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191961)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:53 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

LJL at tuition doubling in 10 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191969)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 10:54 AM
Author: Refunkulus (never count out a MUSCLE NUT)

Tripling for in state!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191974)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: Judas Jones

both seem like they'd be miserable experiences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192119)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

Berkeley for all its flaws is still a huge public school with sports, frats, at least some hot girls - you can definitely have fun there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192123)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Judas Jones

Yeah, I'm sure that's true. I just hate everything that shitlib institution stands for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192129)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: sealclubber

yeah, i want to say chicago is the pick because you are auto smart if you go there, but that's outweighed by these things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193742)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:06 AM
Author: ....,;;;.;....;.........;..;.;;;;....


I know legit mouthbreathers who went there...granted i am early 30s, but i am not impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197939)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: sealclubber

sure. and they just tripped over their 1590's, right?

i'm going to revise and put it this way.

anyone who would apply to chicago and berkeley should choose uc if they get in. you've already indicated that you are more concerned about being a brainiac than having a typical, fun college experience. therefore, choose the brainiac school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197991)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: ....,;;;.;....;.........;..;.;;;;....


When i applied to college it was a joke to get into uc..admissions rate was like 40% and avg sat was low

I would never pick a school w/o a good engineering program. There is pretty much no reason to go to school otherwise.

Most majors are unemployable..just do CS or EECS and get paid 120k starting at 22 easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34198015)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:55 AM
Author: sealclubber

fine, you have a small penis, you aren't very bright, and you're a shitlib. choosing berkely over uc was a mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34198110)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: ;;;..;....;......,,,

(PROLE)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192185)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: Judas Jones

true, im more of a directional state school kinda guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192191)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: Non sequitur

berkeley in state >>>> everything but HPYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192149)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII


poors can go to shit Ivies for free

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192194)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: Non sequitur

well yeah im assuming you're paying tuitiion in all these cases, otherwise you'd get more aid at berkeley too, try to keep up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192198)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: Barack Carcetti

this is a shitty straw man in these conversations

there's a middle ground between grew up in a trailer park, so the Ivy's will just comp tuition

and parents are millionaires who are totally price insensitive

----------

the vast majority of students who will qualify for any of these schools have parents who are right in the zone to soaked of a substantial percentage of their net worth

think, parents combined make $150K or so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192234)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

If money is no object, obviously Chicago.

If the choice is between < 10,000/y and > 60,000/y, obviously Berkeley.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192215)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII


why is it obvious

they're academically equal

I guess Chicago is more exclusive (far fewer spots) does that matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192240)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

It's not obvious. If you are from CA you are way better off attending Berkeley, doing STEM, and copping a tech jerb in CA than spending 4 years at U Chicago for the same price. All SV firms recruit heavily from Berkeley.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192249)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:38 AM
Author: Non sequitur

even not doing stem

lol @ anyone choosing to go to chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192259)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;,;;;..;,XII


I keep trying to come up with academic reasons why Chicago is CR (great math dept, econ, etc) then I remember Berkeley is just as good or better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192264)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:39 AM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

Also no engineering school at Chicago. Math and CS only.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192269)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: Judas Jones

and berkeley even has a UG business school for any chads and beckys who end up there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192281)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

Engineering is a trade. If you want to go to trade school, fine.

Even then, you're better off attending a private institution, because presumably there will be more resources in terms of academic and career advising, and more research opportunities, because you're not competing with Chang, Pradeep, and Ahmed *100 for Prof. Shlomoshekelbergstein's attention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192312)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: ....,;;;.;....;.........;..;.;;;;....


(English major forced into law school due to no jerb prospects)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197949)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: ....,;;;.;....;.........;..;.;;;;....


Why even bother going to college if you arent doing hard STEM these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197946)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

They're not academically equal: anachronistic shitlib flame.

Exclusivity does matter, for the same reason that you'd rather go to CLS than GULC, work at BCG than PWC.

It's a signal of socioeconomic class, intelligence, and work ethic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192283)



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Date: September 12th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: The cream and the clear

Two words: Asian girls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34193041)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: latin america independent film star

Ungh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197745)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

http://www.collegeconfidential.com/wp-content/themes/hobsons/images/banner_img.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197784)



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Date: September 13th, 2017 1:18 AM
Author: *<[]:D (5000 mcg B12/wk, 150 mcg iodine/day, 250 mg algal DHA-EPA/day)

Cal not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197996)