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Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/15/17
HOOOOOly fuck at these results: http://www.top-law-school...
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/15/17
holy shit
cracking abode
  09/15/17
unreal
motley toilet seat national security agency
  09/15/17
Ljl at the 2.9/164 chick getting into Georgetown
impressive primrose market brethren
  09/16/17
...
Cerebral site
  09/16/17
check your privilege cracker
odious generalized bond
  09/16/17
where did you go
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/16/17
...
Cerebral site
  09/16/17
with a 168? well damn. if only u had a time machine
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/16/17
...
Cerebral site
  09/16/17
describe how the fuck you couldn't maintain your gpa with du...
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/16/17
...
Cerebral site
  09/16/17
3.7 in flame major at Yale is probably median! l o l
tan hominid sanctuary
  09/16/17
our median is not nearly that high its like 3.5
Azure Splenetic Temple
  09/16/17
median pwned in econ/bio/other departments that give real gr...
tan hominid sanctuary
  09/16/17
my friend got a C in econ 1 (where the curve was a B-) and t...
Flesh ticket booth ceo
  09/16/17
Ljl I copped 3.9 and 173 and got dinged at all of HYS
very tactful electric furnace
  09/16/17
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Cerebral site
  09/16/17
whered you go
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/16/17
The sad thing about these admissions practices is that they ...
mauve charismatic pit
  09/15/17
...
Mahogany dashing place of business potus
  09/15/17
10 years ago these tards wouldn't get hired as support staff
vivacious lemon personal credit line coldplay fan
  09/16/17
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Cerebral site
  09/16/17
...
Mahogany dashing place of business potus
  09/16/17
I think people would rather go to a better school than have ...
Azure Splenetic Temple
  09/16/17
lolno, this is why I will never let a black dr treat me
odious generalized bond
  09/16/17
what about for minor shit
tan hominid sanctuary
  09/16/17
not for anything
odious generalized bond
  09/16/17
not for a fucking cough my nig?
tan hominid sanctuary
  09/16/17
I don't go to random doctors, I would see my GP. Obviously m...
odious generalized bond
  09/16/17
Id rather just see a nurse/RN
Flesh ticket booth ceo
  09/16/17
I specified that I was talking about normal people
Azure Splenetic Temple
  09/16/17
The reason why one might be wary of black doctors is indeed ...
razzle-dazzle effete dragon trust fund
  09/16/17
"normal" people like being treated by doctors that...
odious generalized bond
  09/16/17
State your lsat score before I engage you further.
Bipolar Black Woman Twinkling Uncleanness
  09/16/17
"It generally helps, but my friend with a 150 LSAT only...
Swashbuckling maize milk forum
  09/15/17
mid 160's lsat is top 75% at GULC now, full stop.
Electric Drunken Hospital
  09/15/17
georgeTTTown out of the T14
vivacious lemon personal credit line coldplay fan
  09/16/17
...
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/15/17
My buddy (who is African-American) had a very low college GP...
Chocolate box office
  09/16/17
Maybe a random white or Asian person with shit scores would ...
Cowardly Resort
  09/16/17
what do you mean by thriving also, his lsat may have been v...
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/16/17
By "some" you mean literally ten or so per year. D...
impressive primrose market brethren
  09/16/17
...
Cerebral site
  09/16/17
...
Azure Splenetic Temple
  09/16/17
People used to READ LAW to become lawyers. Of course the LSA...
mind-boggling wagecucks
  09/16/17
...
Mahogany dashing place of business potus
  09/16/17
"Thriving"
very tactful electric furnace
  09/16/17
...
Mahogany dashing place of business potus
  09/16/17
...
Cerebral site
  09/16/17
this is fucking absurd.
odious generalized bond
  09/16/17
what were your stats and where did you go
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/16/17
...
Cerebral site
  09/16/17
...
Mahogany dashing place of business potus
  09/16/17
Ljl
Flesh ticket booth ceo
  09/16/17
jfc
confused base hissy fit
  09/16/17
lmfao
misunderstood address haunted graveyard
  09/18/17
The crazy thing is that all these people are competing to g...
Gay Lay Faggot Firefighter
  09/16/17
What percent of t14 alums would support affirmative action t...
titillating university patrolman
  09/16/17
like all of Yale and nyu
Azure Splenetic Temple
  09/16/17
I've never understood: why do non-white leftists who are sup...
razzle-dazzle effete dragon trust fund
  09/16/17
Bluesmoke is right. This policy is more popular than free ad...
vermilion nibblets piazza
  09/16/17
Sigh. I spent a lot of my life bitter that as I struggled...
Trip yarmulke principal's office
  09/16/17
hahahha then you realized it's all flame and being a &quo...
Flesh ticket booth ceo
  09/16/17
actually my place is only about $100K less in value than the...
Trip yarmulke principal's office
  09/16/17
wait...i don't get it. are you a URM annoyed that we're crit...
Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry
  09/16/17
Were you at a city-wide magnet like Stuyvesant or something?...
mentally impaired business firm
  09/16/17
I was in city-wide accelerated learning programs from an ear...
Trip yarmulke principal's office
  09/18/17
oh the irony that affirmative action incentivizes racism
wonderful overrated public bath
  09/16/17
...
Flesh ticket booth ceo
  09/16/17
Um, it's not an "incentive," you idiot.
Amber Jet-lagged Locus
  09/18/17


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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:06 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

https://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/11854/urm-admissions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218872)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:08 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

HOOOOOly fuck at these results:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=275052&hilit=results

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218882)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: cracking abode

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218955)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: motley toilet seat national security agency

unreal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218980)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: impressive primrose market brethren

Ljl at the 2.9/164 chick getting into Georgetown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222962)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223559)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: odious generalized bond

check your privilege cracker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223568)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

where did you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223580)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:39 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223589)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

with a 168? well damn. if only u had a time machine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223613)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223626)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

describe how the fuck you couldn't maintain your gpa with dumbs as classmates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223720)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223729)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: tan hominid sanctuary

3.7 in flame major at Yale is probably median!

l o l

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223620)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: Azure Splenetic Temple

our median is not nearly that high

its like 3.5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223643)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: tan hominid sanctuary

median pwned in econ/bio/other departments that give real grades -> went hiding in latin american studies to inflate my gpa

finished above median!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223764)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Flesh ticket booth ceo

my friend got a C in econ 1 (where the curve was a B-) and then promptly transferred to a poli sci major where he graduated with a 3.9 GPA...no flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224783)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: very tactful electric furnace

Ljl I copped 3.9 and 173 and got dinged at all of HYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223633)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223656)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

whered you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223723)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: mauve charismatic pit

The sad thing about these admissions practices is that they make it rational to assume the URM graduates are less capable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218928)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: Mahogany dashing place of business potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218929)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: vivacious lemon personal credit line coldplay fan

10 years ago these tards wouldn't get hired as support staff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222965)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223561)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: Mahogany dashing place of business potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223564)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: Azure Splenetic Temple

I think people would rather go to a better school than have people "assume" they're smarter

Normal people (not race obsessed xo posters) dont have race and LSAT charts memorized and judge people as individuals anyway. Its easy to talk to someone and tell whether they're smart anyway. You dont need to do some sort of weird extrapolation nased on their race's median scores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223808)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: odious generalized bond

lolno, this is why I will never let a black dr treat me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223815)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: tan hominid sanctuary

what about for minor shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223826)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:36 PM
Author: odious generalized bond

not for anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223953)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: tan hominid sanctuary

not for a fucking cough my nig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223965)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: odious generalized bond

I don't go to random doctors, I would see my GP. Obviously my GP isn't going to be black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223972)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:40 PM
Author: Flesh ticket booth ceo

Id rather just see a nurse/RN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223986)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: Azure Splenetic Temple

I specified that I was talking about normal people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223834)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle effete dragon trust fund

The reason why one might be wary of black doctors is indeed well-known to "normal people," as its having seeped into popular culture attests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgqUQ17sYm0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223923)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: odious generalized bond

"normal" people like being treated by doctors that actually earned their med school admission.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223959)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 2:14 PM
Author: Bipolar Black Woman Twinkling Uncleanness

State your lsat score before I engage you further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224180)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Swashbuckling maize milk forum

"It generally helps, but my friend with a 150 LSAT only got into Georgetown"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218992)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Electric Drunken Hospital

mid 160's lsat is top 75% at GULC now, full stop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218995)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: vivacious lemon personal credit line coldplay fan

georgeTTTown out of the T14

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222967)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 5:25 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34219792)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: Chocolate box office

My buddy (who is African-American) had a very low college GPA and got into an HYS, probably with the benefit of affirmative action. He seems to be thriving at a V20 firm. I'm not sure LSAT and GPA are all they're cracked up to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222966)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: Cowardly Resort

Maybe a random white or Asian person with shit scores would thrive too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222997)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

what do you mean by thriving

also, his lsat may have been very high (some blacks score high), which means he's smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223121)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: impressive primrose market brethren

By "some" you mean literally ten or so per year. Did you ever read that article about black performance on the LSAT? It was insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223128)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223645)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: Azure Splenetic Temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223649)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: mind-boggling wagecucks

People used to READ LAW to become lawyers. Of course the LSAT isn't the end all be all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223527)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: Mahogany dashing place of business potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223567)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: very tactful electric furnace

"Thriving"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223610)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:46 PM
Author: Mahogany dashing place of business potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223629)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223634)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: odious generalized bond

this is fucking absurd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223572)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

what were your stats and where did you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223581)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: Cerebral site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223654)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:52 PM
Author: Mahogany dashing place of business potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223661)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:35 PM
Author: Flesh ticket booth ceo

Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223946)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:29 PM
Author: confused base hissy fit

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224993)



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Date: September 18th, 2017 11:49 PM
Author: misunderstood address haunted graveyard

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34240512)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: Gay Lay Faggot Firefighter

The crazy thing is that all these people are competing to get into law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223679)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:11 PM
Author: titillating university patrolman

What percent of t14 alums would support affirmative action to this extent? It must be much less than half.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223784)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: Azure Splenetic Temple

like all of Yale and nyu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223829)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:45 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle effete dragon trust fund

I've never understood: why do non-white leftists who are super in favor of affirmative action get offended if you suggest that they themselves were affirmative-action recipients? If it's perfectly fine and justified to admit people who would not have qualified on merit alone, then why treat it as an accusation of something shameful?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224015)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:34 PM
Author: vermilion nibblets piazza

Bluesmoke is right. This policy is more popular than free adderall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223937)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:53 PM
Author: Trip yarmulke principal's office

Sigh.

I spent a lot of my life bitter that as I struggled in a terrible neighborhood with harsh parents who did nothing to nurture my educational aspirations, the Jewish kids across town were getting everything in life they ever wanted, treated like gold in their families, vacations in St. Maarten, summers off, no work after school, and then top of the class.

I then struggled bitterly through undergrad, not understanding the chance misfortune of my circumstances, as they enjoyed ivory tower academic bliss knowing that their parents were going to cover their tuition every semester, gold watches on their arms, etc.

I thought it was great payback that I got into law schools some of them didn't. I thought it was a testament to my character for all the shit I had to go through that they didn't. This country loves an underdog. Except when we're talking about AA on XO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224766)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Flesh ticket booth ceo

hahahha

then you realized it's all flame and being a "working professional" sucks huge balls? and that you will never have as much money as someone who inherits it? and that striving is all for nothing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224771)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: Trip yarmulke principal's office

actually my place is only about $100K less in value than the houses in that part of town where these kids came from, so I do see a thinning in the net worth gap.

But yes, I still don't think of myself as rich and am now questioning what I saw as rich back in secondary school. I suppose if any of those families were truly wealthy they would have had their kids in private school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224805)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:23 PM
Author: Outnumbered Marvelous Cuckoldry

wait...i don't get it. are you a URM annoyed that we're criticizing AA? or annoyed that you got AA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224942)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: mentally impaired business firm

Were you at a city-wide magnet like Stuyvesant or something? Otherwise why would you have had so many interactions with Jewish kids across town that you had such a keen sense of their family dynamics and vacation itineraries, or is the idea that these were the notions you had about hypothetical Jews at the time? I'm a White Catholic that grew up around a ton of Jews who had more money than me, and I never envied them because their parents would be so weird about things, whether that meant being cheap or being showy and tacky. It wasn't until I met the legit super rich wasps and model minorities I knew in law school that I developed a truly deep sense of envy and frustration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34225293)



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Date: September 18th, 2017 7:43 AM
Author: Trip yarmulke principal's office

I was in city-wide accelerated learning programs from an early age because I tested well. So I was thrown in with them from an early age. But being from the same town and in the same high school, why wouldn't I have had interactions with them if I was in the same classes with them (study groups, etc.)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34234432)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: wonderful overrated public bath

oh the irony that affirmative action incentivizes racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34225452)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: Flesh ticket booth ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34225453)



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Date: September 18th, 2017 11:24 PM
Author: Amber Jet-lagged Locus

Um, it's not an "incentive," you idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34240423)