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$70/hour for death penalty cases [NYT]

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been ...
insane hominid genital piercing
  09/20/17
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buff french chef
  09/20/17
where do we apply
drab chapel
  09/20/17
Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice The st...
umber pistol church building
  09/20/17
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navy free-loading dilemma
  09/20/17
half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k
stimulating casino
  09/20/17
140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead...
Pale magical roast beef wagecucks
  09/20/17
$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insuranc...
titillating office
  09/20/17
And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting p...
chartreuse puppy
  09/20/17
not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour w...
Silver Histrionic Stage
  09/20/17
$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NY...
Sienna Preventive Strike
  09/20/17
$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get ...
Boyish fat ankles
  09/20/17
LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a d...
Brass yapping trailer park internal respiration
  09/20/17
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buff french chef
  09/20/17
Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anythin...
Arousing Unhinged Property
  09/20/17
I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour
chartreuse puppy
  09/20/17
It'd be a raise for me
Pale magical roast beef wagecucks
  09/20/17
i never get out of bed
drab chapel
  09/20/17
yeah, you would.
mind-boggling sanctuary
  09/20/17
real dollars, not abbo bux
Laughsome purple market rigor
  09/20/17
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buff french chef
  09/20/17
Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals
chartreuse puppy
  09/20/17
lol at flat fees. how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps. ...
Silver Histrionic Stage
  09/20/17
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maize stead
  09/20/17
Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875
titillating office
  09/20/17
bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between...
Silver Histrionic Stage
  09/20/17
...
Arousing Unhinged Property
  09/20/17
yup
beady-eyed circlehead
  09/20/17
you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of g...
beady-eyed circlehead
  09/20/17
Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because la...
Boyish fat ankles
  09/20/17


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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:14 AM
Author: insane hominid genital piercing

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been criticized as deeply flawed, particularly in death penalty cases. It underwent some changes in 2011, but judges still handpick defense lawyers, and they are paid only $70 an hour — less than half the federal pay rate for capital defenders and far too low to attract experienced death penalty lawyers, said Lisa Borden, who oversees pro bono programs at the Baker Donelson law firm in Birmingham. In 2011, former judges on the state’s highest courts told the United States Supreme Court that capital defendants in Alabama faced “a lack of qualified counsel at all stages.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/us/alabama-kharon-davis-speedy.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248557)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: buff french chef



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: drab chapel

where do we apply

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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: umber pistol church building

Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice

The state goes hard, probably thinks 70 dollars way too much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248565)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:45 AM
Author: navy free-loading dilemma



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:17 AM
Author: stimulating casino

half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248567)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:20 AM
Author: Pale magical roast beef wagecucks

140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead expenses office and taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248576)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: titillating office

$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insurance defense lawyers would work for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248721)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: chartreuse puppy

And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting prisons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248728)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:16 AM
Author: Silver Histrionic Stage

not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour work week. your bills are screened. if you think you can bill for 100% of your time, you're either

a. an idiot; or

b. in biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248820)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: Sienna Preventive Strike

$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NYC. so how much does NY pay its death penalty attorneys?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248612)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: Boyish fat ankles

$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get this work. Lawyers line up around the block to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249859)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:38 AM
Author: Brass yapping trailer park internal respiration

LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a decent defense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248664)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:41 AM
Author: buff french chef



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: Arousing Unhinged Property

Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anything the trial attorney did malpractice.

Did your client testify? Well, that was malpractice because it allowed the state to bring in your client's 15 prior felonies.

Did your client not testify? Well, that was malpractice because you never let the jury hear their side of the story.

Don't really blame appellate counsel for throwing hail mary's, but it makes the jurisprudence lulzy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249737)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: chartreuse puppy

I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248714)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: Pale magical roast beef wagecucks

It'd be a raise for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248719)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:50 AM
Author: drab chapel

i never get out of bed

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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: mind-boggling sanctuary

yeah, you would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248751)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:45 AM
Author: Laughsome purple market rigor

real dollars, not abbo bux

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248870)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:58 AM
Author: buff french chef



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:00 AM
Author: chartreuse puppy

Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248765)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:15 AM
Author: Silver Histrionic Stage

lol at flat fees.

how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps.

step 1-consider flat fee

step 2-accept flat fee

related, those fees are really fucking shitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248817)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: maize stead



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: titillating office

Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248832)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:27 AM
Author: Silver Histrionic Stage

bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between 1:00 and 1:13.

my advice is that you accept the plea offer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248840)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Arousing Unhinged Property



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: beady-eyed circlehead

yup



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249800)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: beady-eyed circlehead

you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of govt right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249806)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:20 AM
Author: Boyish fat ankles

Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because lawyers will do this shit for free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249873)