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Interesting 1861 letter by Salomon de Rothschild about causes of the Civil War

Writing to his family, who would profit hugely from a divide...
Spectacular Thirsty Halford
  09/20/17
always follow the money
Medicated Disgusting Shrine Idiot
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The Americans had won their political independence but their...
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Rothschild family also owns De Beers. Also: THE TEN MEMBE...
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Didn't know you were an anti-Semite. Disappointing tbh.
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Soros connection to Rothschild family Soros has been iden...
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Hillary Clinton connection to Rothschild family Indeed, t...
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more Lynn Forester de Rothschild wrote an email on April ...
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link to source?
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http://www.jewish-history.com/salomon/salo16.html
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are you getting all this from rense.com
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Date: September 20th, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

Writing to his family, who would profit hugely from a divided America (and wings of his family largely financed both the North and South during the war, as they did competing sides in many wars). It’s mostly because Nathan Mayer Rothschild, remembered for being the wealthiest man in the world once, instructed his five sons to start banks in different countries across Europe. This meant that not only will this prevent local rivalry within the same country, but they could also support each other financially.

Amschel in Frankfort, Salomon Mayer von Rothschild in Vienna, Nathaniel (continued the family business) in London, Carl in Rome, and James in Paris.

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The Causes of the Civil War

by Salomon de Rothschild

Here is a more comprehensive Causes of the Civil War Site

I am writing you a separate letter on politics, which is even more confused here than in Europe, but I cannot recommend to you strongly enough to use every influence of our family and our friends to have the Republic of the Southern Confederacy recognized as soon as possible. You will tell me that my ideas have changed, but when you read my other letter, you will tell me I am right, for in this way bloodshed and an immense destruction of property would be stopped.

New Orleans, April 28, '61

I have been in New Orleans for a month now, and I had expected to spend only a few days here. But the political events, which followed one another with such rapidity, were of such a throbbing interest to me that I thought it was my duty to prolong my stay and to make a thoroughgoing study of this very difficult and delicate matter.

Having stayed in the North and in the South, having heard all possible discussions in favor of and against each side, I had the leisure to form a completely independent opinion of my own. I am going to try to transmit it to you, though it is difficult to do so in writing. Therefore, I should start a little farther back.

You know that the former United States was made up of two great parties, the Democrats and the Republicans. These two parties were subdivided into groups, few in numbers, but extremely violent. The abolitionists were the ultra-Republicans; the "fire-eaters" or secessionists, the ultra-Democrats. Fanaticism and extreme factions always carry things their way, and as I gave you a presentiment a long time ago, abolition on the one side and secession on the other won over the moderate neutrals, in spite of themselves.

The point of departure, then, as you know, was the question of slavery. Naturally, since this institution is the source of the wealth of the South, it was defended to the utmost by those who derived profit from it. Two reasons impelled the inhabitants of the North to seek the destruction of slavery by all possible means. The first, which was given by those who wanted to deceive, to win over, chivalrous hearts and to lure European sympathies, was a simple reason, that of humanity. In a free country like America, there shouldn't be any slaves, and complete equality should prevail among all classes. The proof that this reason was not sincere is that the abolitionists spent millions in order to incite insurrections among the slaves, or to induce them to flee from their masters, but let them die of hunger because they were free, and gave them no opportunity for moral advancement. However, the real sentiments which guided them, and which they did not dare admit in that moment, was that feeling of leveling whereby everybody would have to be nominally equal. They couldn't bear to see the inhabitants of the South with 200 hands at their service, when they had only two hands themselves. This feeling was the first germ of the social revolution which is now swiftly following the political revolution. You will recall that I have been talking to you about this for a long time.

The South had numerous sympathizers in the North, but these sympathizers were more interested than it was believed; they knew that with the help of the Southern states they could keep power.

This state of affairs could have continued for many years if the two divisions, South and North, of the Democratic party had not split at the last electoral convention. Since each of them carried a different dandidate, they surrendered power to a third thief, Lincoln, the Republican choice. The cotton states understood that there was no longer any security for them in a union in which the chief of state and all his ministers were their most implacable enemies.

They seceded. Unfortunately for them, the secession was carried out, as everything is done on this continent, illegally and boastfully; and their bravado alienated many moderate men from them and prevented the central slave states from joining them right away.

The Republican administration, thinking that it was dealing with just a small number of states without a large population, and supposing that within these very states the Unionist feeling was still very much alive and was silent only because of the violence and coercion of some demagogic ringleaders, resorted to repressive measures, for which the constitution of the United States gave it no authorization at all.

The first effect of these measures was to make the sentiment for secession unanimous in the Gulf states and strongly to estrange the central states. The latter made a last effort to bring the two factions together, but failed on both sides. After having promised the evacuation of Fort Sumter, the administration tried to resupply it. Several warships appeared in the roadstead; the population of Charlestown was aroused and, perhaps in too much haste, bombarded the fort and captured it. This first cannon shot decided the question.

Lincoln issued a proclamation ordering the rebels to disband within twenty days and to raise the flag of the United States again under penalty of being punished and coerced by force of arms. The situation was becoming clear. The entire deep South was united; the North was beginning to be, but it still had within its ranks many persons who favored Southern rights. Pecuniary interests did the rest. The great question over which the representatives of the South and those of the North had been locked in bitter combat for thirty years was the question of tariffs.

The South was a producer of raw materials, and a consumer; the North was a manufacturer. Free trade, or at least very moderate custom-duties, was the desire of the inhabitants of the South. The North was contending in favor of protection, often even of the prohibition [of imports]. By the old tariff law, the eastern states and New England furnished the other states merchandise which these latter could procure in Europe at reductions of twenty-five and thirty percent.

As soon as the Republican administration (the protector of tariffs) came to power, Congress passed the Morrill Tariff, which raised duties to an unprecedented rate. The states which had seceded responded with a very great decrease in these same tariffs, intimating their eventual, complete abolition when the peaceful state of the country should allow them freedom from recourse to extraordinary measures.

The North understood that it was lost if secession continued and made progress. Who would then come to buy the iron products of Pennsylvania and the manufactured goods of New England? It would no longer by the South, for the South would get its supplies in the European markets and would find a way to pass its purchases into the western states. From that moment on, the South no longer had a supporter in the North; Republicans and Democrats crowded around the flag of the Union. Patriotism and the old memories played some part in this; but believe me, the principal motive was the pocket.

It was therefore necessary to get rid, at all cost, of this spirit of revolt which was making daily progress and bringing the North closer to its ruin. The western and eastern states offered their troops and their treasuries to the government, and were willing to go to any extreme of sacrifice, but this appeal reverberated in a different way in the states which had as yet not decided. Virginia seceded immediately and, bringing to the Southern Confederacy the help of her numerous population and of her inexhaustible storehouses, sought to make up for lost time by seizing the federal arsenals. Tennessee and Kentucky answered that they didn't have a single man to aid the administration to coerce the states of the South, but that they would find a hundred thousand men to defend them. Governor [C.F.] Jackson of Missouri, who was not counted on at all, for that state is surrounded by abolitionist populations and is only half slave, answered Lincoln "that his request was illegal, unconstitutional...and diabolical." Maryland also revolted, and the Federal troops had to make their way through Baltimore amidst a rain of paving stones, which killed some of them and wounded many more.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 12:28 PM
Author: Medicated Disgusting Shrine Idiot

always follow the money

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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

The Americans had won their political independence but their financial independence was in jeopardy. The international bankers had an agent in place and his name was Alexander Hamilton who wanted a central bank. Thomas Jefferson lobbied vehemently against the central bank stating it was contrary to the Constitution. However, a central bank was formed in 1781 known as the Bank of North America which was patterned after the Bank of England. The colonists wanted nothing to do with it so it folded in 1790. The international bankers countered the closing of the Bank of North America by gaining a charter for the Bank of the United States which was chartered on February 25, 1791. The Bank of France desired the formation of the US Bank also and it was chartered for 20 years.

In 1826, the second bank's charter was soon to expire and presidential candidate Andrew Jackson campaigned strongly against a central bank which was owned and operated by the international banking element. Here is Jackson's opinion of those bankers:

• "You are a den of vipers. I intend to wipe you out, and by the Eternal God I will rout you out...If people only understood the rank injustice of the money and banking system, there would be a revolution by morning."

In 1836, the charter did expire but that was not the end of the international banking influence in this country. The Civil War was planned in England as far back as 1809. Slavery was not the real cause of the Civil War. The Rothschilds (who were heavy into the slave trade) used the slavery issue as "a divide and conquer strategy" which almost split the United States in two. The Bank of England financed the North while the Paris branch of the Rothschild bank funded the South. In 1863, the National Banking Act was passed despite protest by President Lincoln. This act allowed a private corporation the authority to issue our money.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: Charismatic center



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

Rothschild family also owns De Beers. Also:

THE TEN MEMBER BANKS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE

All owned by the Rothschilds

Rothschild Bank of London

Warburg Bank of Hamburg

Rothschild Bank of Berlin

Lehman Brothers of New York*

Lazard Brothers of Paris

Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York*

Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy

Goldman, Sachs of New York

Warburg Bank of Amsterdam

Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

*In 1977 Kuhn Loeb and Lehman Brothers merged to create Kuhn Loeb, Lehman Brothers, Inc.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:00 PM
Author: Geriatric Blathering Brethren Volcanic Crater

Didn't know you were an anti-Semite. Disappointing tbh.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: Charismatic center



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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:16 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford



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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:21 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

Soros connection to Rothschild family

Soros has been identified as a front man of the Anglo-French Rothschild banking group. Understandably neither he nor the Rothschilds want this important fact to be public, so the tight links to his friends in the London "City", in the British foreign ministry, in the state of Israel and to his mighty friends in the American establishment would stay concealed."

Among the members of the board of the Quantum Fund is one Richard Katz. He is, at the same time, head of the "Rothschild Italia S.p.A." in Milan and is also on the board of the commercial bank "N.M. Rothschild and Sons" in London. Another member of the board is Nils O. Taube. He is a partner in the London investment group "St. James Place Capital" which counts Lord Rothschild among it's main partners. A frequent partner of Soros in several of his speculations --especially in the driving up of the gold quotation-- is Sir James Goldsmith, a relative of the Rothschilds dynasty. On the board of Quantum we also find some heads of some highly "discreet" Swiss private banks (who help the syndicates of organized crime--weapons and drugs--to launder their money). Then there is Edgar D. de Picciotto, head of the Geneva private bank "CBITDB Union Bancaire Privee", a main player on the gold and investment markets, Isidoro Albertini, head of the Milan stockbroking company "Albertini and Co.", Beat Notz of the private bank "Banque Worms" at Geneva, Alberto Foglia, head of the Banca del Ceresio" at Lugano. In the course of the recent political corruption scandals in Italy it was found that several Italian politicians kept their money at the "Banca del Ceresio". Apparently Soros had more than just insider knowledge about the weal points in Italian politics when he attacked the lira in Sept. 1994.

William Engdahl explains : "Soros' connection to the ultra-secret international finance circles of the Rothschilds is not just an ordinary or accidental banking connection. The extraordinary success Soros has on the high-risk financial markets cannot simply be explained with "gambler's luck". Soros has access to the "insider track" of the world's most imporatnt information channels, both government and private.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

Hillary Clinton connection to Rothschild family

Indeed, the most well-known Rothschild patriarch, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, once said “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws.” The Rothschilds and their international banking cartel, ‘Rothschild & Co,’ are majority owners of numerous corporations spanning nearly every industry. They are also co-owners of numerous private banks including the International Monetary Fund, which essentially functions as a global loan shark with no government or international oversight, as well as many of the world’s central banks, which are private entities despite their associations with federal governments.

Several politicians, especially those who are the most willing to bend over backwards for wealthy interests, have made their careers by catering to the whims of the Rothschilds and other families like them. In US politics today, there is no better example of this archetype than Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. In fact, less than two months ago, Clinton flew just 20 miles in a private jet to attend a private Rothschild fundraiser in her honor. Yet, this is just one of the latest examples of her intimate relationship to the banking dynasty.

In emails from her private server made available to the public by WikiLeaks, Clinton’s close relationship to Lady de Rothschild is evident due to their warm exchanges which include phrases such as “You are the best […] Sweet dreams,” “I remain your loyal adoring pal,” and “Much love.” This is significant as, judging by Clinton’s other emails, her communication style is almost always curt and concise, never approaching the outright declarations of affection found only in her exchanges with Lady de Rothschild. Lady de Rothschild, married into the Rothschild family in 2000 after being introduced to Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, who alone is worth $20 billion, at the 1998 Bilderberg Conference. War criminal Henry Kissinger served as the couple’s “match-maker.”

Yet, the most bizarre interaction between Clinton and Lady de Rothschild took place in an email titled “Info for you” (ID#1606), which was sent while Clinton was serving as US Secretary of State. In the email, Clinton tells Lady de Rothschild that she had to ask Tony Blair (then-Prime Minister of England) to accompany her to Israel due to the Middle East peace negotiations taking place at the time. Blair had previously planned to spend the weekend in Aspen, Colorado with the Rothschilds at an unspecified conference, but accepted Clinton’s invitation. Clinton then says “I hope you all understand. […] Let me know what penance I owe you.” For those who are not familiar with the word, penance is defined as follows: “An act of self-mortification or devotion performed voluntarily to show sorrow for a sin or other wrongdoing.” Does this sound like something Hillary Clinton would normally say?



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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

more

Lynn Forester de Rothschild wrote an email on April 18, 2010, in which she tells Hillary she would “love to catch up” — and “I remain your loyal adoring pal.” Clinton responds “let’s make that happen,” and signs her response, “Much love, H.”

On September 23, 2010, Clinton emailed Lynn Forester de Rothschild (an email chain marked by heavy redaction) saying, “I was trying to reach you to tell you and Teddy that I asked Tony Blair to go to Israel as part of our full court press on keeping the Middle East negotiations going …”

Rothschild responds, thanking Clinton for “personally reaching out to us,” and adds, “You are the best, and we remain your biggest fans.”

A January 9, 2012, email discusses a conference on the environment set to take place at Jacob Rothschild’s “historic estate, Waddesdon.”

On New Year’s Eve 2012, Lynn Forester de Rothschild sent an email to Clinton “praying for” her speedy recovery. “And, my email box is lighting up with all the PUMA’s and their 18M prayers for Hillary campaign,” states the email, which is signed, “Love, Lynn, Evelyn, Ben and Jake.”

An email to Clinton, dated October 15, 2009, from Melanne Verveer — former director of Pres. Obama’s State Department office for Global Women’s Issues and longtime Clinton family insider — states:

“Speaking at UNESCO Monday with the new director on the unfinished Beijing agenda [REDACTED] called to say she wants to give us several million dollars to subsidize a fund to give an annual award for innovation in empowering women that would be a rockefeller-State [sic] partnership.”

Then, on March 10, 2012, Verveer hints at least at a possible locale for Hillary’s future endeavors:

“I forgot to tell you that Judith Rodin offered you a suite of offices after you leave State for your own use at Rockefeller Fdtn, if you’re interested –with no strings attached. She also said they’d be happy to provide you with a month at their center in Bellagio if you just want to read and write in a beautiful place.”

Though none of the emails The Free Thought Project examined appeared overtly damning — thanks, in part, to sometimes heavy redaction — the evidence of Clinton’s comfort with the establishment lends credence to theories of her being the ‘chosen’ candidate.

Numerous emails evidence Hillary’s staff carefully monitoring — and even manipulating — mainstream news outlets as well. Lynn F. de Rothschild told Hillary in August 2009 about a fluff piece journalist Les Gelb was eager to pen for Parade Magazine. Other emails show an almost paranoid eye Clinton kept trained on the Tea Party and its journalists and mouthpieces.

To reiterate, nothing particularly damning in itself was found in this admittedly cursory search — but the relationships these emails document, alone, evidence Hillary’s concrete establishment roots. While Trump infuriates the GOP and Sanders’ popular support lacks translation into delegate votes, perhaps these documents support the popular theory Hillary Clinton will be the next president — no matter what.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Medicated Disgusting Shrine Idiot

link to source?

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

http://www.jewish-history.com/salomon/salo16.html



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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: translucent haunted graveyard reading party

are you getting all this from rense.com

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

Another letter to his family:

Salomon de Rothschild Tours America (1861)

The Joined Issue Submitted to Arbitrament by War

You see then, my dear cousin, that it is a question of life and death for the North. It will make the greatest sacrifices and will yield nothing. It is unanimous on this matter. Republicans and Democrats are fighting side by side, but from a different point of view.

The Republican, who, not through negrophile philanthropy, but in order to give the whites a greater extent of territory, restricts the extension of slavery, wants to push the slaves back into the confines of the cotton states, and to emancipate those of the central states. In the blindness of political passions, he believes himself strong enough to reach this goal. The Democrat fights for the reconstruction of the Union and for this reconstruction alone. He wants to give the South all possible concessions, provided that it re-enters the Union. He doesn't want to make a conquered country of it, but he doesn't want to have to fear further dangers from it.

The question has become such an embittered one, the facts falsified to such an extent by those who find their advantages in the civil war, that the two sections of the country do not know each other any more, and are completely unaware of their mutual intentions; and the farther they go, the less they will recognize them. Because of the immixture of party considerations, the point of departure will soon be forgotten, and, as I have already seen, it all becomes a question of personalities and of self-esteem.

I have traveled through the entire South, and I have found there a complete unanimity for secession. The more or less imaginary grievances against the North loom up larger and larger in the minds of the secessionists, and some very distinguished men, generally peaceful and calm, have told me that they would prefer to live under the liberal government of Louis Napoleon rather than to endure the unbearable oppression of the North. They say that they will fight to their last breath and will shed their last drop of blood and, what is most important, will spend their last cent. Besides, mediation by foreign powers will only aggravate the question. In the North, I have been told that if it is necessary, they will urge the slaves to insurrection and stir up a slave war in the South.

You see, then, that it is a struggle which has no way out. With minds so determined and principles so opposed, reunion is impossible and secession is no less so. The North, with its 20,000,000 inhabitants and much more money, will have the upper hand, but 8,000,000 inhabitants can prolong the fight for many years.

I see no possibility at all for a reconciliation, except through some entirely unforeseen event which may be among the decrees of Providence...

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: curious institution

Rothschild calling out SHITLIBERALISM:

"Two reasons impelled the inhabitants of the North to seek the destruction of slavery by all possible means. The first, which was given by those who wanted to deceive, to win over, chivalrous hearts and to lure European sympathies, was a simple reason, that of humanity. In a free country like America, there shouldn't be any slaves, and complete equality should prevail among all classes. The proof that this reason was not sincere is that the abolitionists spent millions in order to incite insurrections among the slaves, or to induce them to flee from their masters, but let them die of hunger because they were free, and gave them no opportunity for moral advancement. However, the real sentiments which guided them, and which they did not dare admit in that moment, was that feeling of leveling whereby everybody would have to be nominally equal. They couldn't bear to see the inhabitants of the South with 200 hands at their service, when they had only two hands themselves. This feeling was the first germ of the social revolution which is now swiftly following the political revolution. You will recall that I have been talking to you about this for a long time"

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

letter encouraging "Europe" to side with the Confederacy

Salomon de Rothschild Tours America (1861)

The Private Diplomat Views the War

Here in Louisiana--and I am told that it is the same in the other states--everyone is rushing to the defense. Everyone old enough to bear arms, from the age of fourteen to seventy-five, is enlisting in the various companies. The young men are at the disposition of the President of the Confederate States, to be sent wherever the service of the state requires. The old men remain in the cities, to defend their hearths against any unforeseen attack.

The young men of the better families, accustomed to a soft and idle existence, are enlisting as privates and, with knapsacks on their backs, are leaving with their company to defend Pensacola, to attack Fort Pickens, or to fight in Virginia. All conversation is about battles, armament, and attack. The women themselves, who without hesitation have given their sons and their brothers to the common cause, work all day sewing sandbags and making cannon-cartridges. Miss Eustace herself made 140 hoods to protect the soldiers against mosquitoes. One company which had just been formed had no time to get its uniforms made; it had received orders to proceed immediately to Pensacola. The governor's wife and twenty other ladies bought cloth, took their sewing machines, embarked with the troops, and when the company arrived at Mobile, it was fitted out. The first ladies of the city--and there are some very pretty ones--have organized to care for the wounded.

In short, there is a strong will here to resist a foreign invasion to the last breath. And, as I say, it is not here only. In Texas, for example, they seized all the forts and several ships of the United States, and they sent here fifty or sixty men who had been captured. These were treated perfectly and sent back to the North.

With the border states, the seceding states would have a population of from ten to twelve million inhabitants; this is almost half of the population of the United states. [Actually it was about one-third.]

Leaving aside the discussion of the federal law which permits or refuses the right of secession, a discussion which each side, with a little quibbling, can turn to its own profit, it seems to me that when America stretched forth its hand to all the peoples who wanted to revolt against their sovereigns, when it upheld with its promises and its writings the rather contested rights of Hungary and of Italy, when its legists and its orators proved that in a case of oppression revolution and rebellion were not a right but a duty, when it declared a hundred times that the states were sovereign and that no state had the right to encroach on the interests of another, how can the North stop thirteen states from seceding when it is in their interest? And even if they didn't have this legal right, there is the natural law which Congress has proclaimed a hundred times. If twelve million want to secede, you won't stop them from it. So the was which the North is going to wage against the South is an impious, barbarous, fratricidal war. In order to save a few pennies for those arrogant manufacturers, members of one and the same family are going to find themselves opposed to each other, old friends will cut each other's throats, and rivers of blood will be shed. The North and the South are going to hurl themselves upon each other like two locomotives driven at full steam and meeting on the same track. There will be no gratification except the brutal passion of vengeance, no result except death and destruction. When the two sides have exhausted all their resources, when they have seen the flower of their youth perish, when they have squandered millions in that bottomless abyss, the Civil War, they will find themselves right back where they started and, furthermore, with a gulf between them.

The war will have to end. They will have to make a treaty; they will have to make mutual concessions, for regardless of who conquers, there will be no conquered, with each side fighting up to the very last moment for the rights it claims to have.

Again, all that the South is asking is that it be left alone and permitted to govern itself as it sees fit. It will not attack except in its own defense; it is therefore senseless to believe that the South can be subdued. Besides, the North's blindness has reached such a point that it wants to fight the South regardless, and hopes to conquer it by blockading its ports. But it is not the South alone that it will harm; it is all Europe, which needs its cotton and its other products.

It is therefore for the sake of its own interests, as well as for those of humanity and civilization, that Europe ought to intervene in one manner or another. It should exert all its efforts to stop this desperate and useless war. The sooner the great European states recognize the Southern Confederacy, which can invoke in its favor the theory of faits accomplis, the sooner they will have fulfilled a mission of peace and humanity. Furthermore, it is in their interest, for the independence of the South brings with it free trade and an immense market for all our products as well as England's. Besides, the longer the war lasts, the more embittered the hatreds will become and the more difficult it will be to reconcile these inimical brothers.

I therefore entreat you to use all your influence to get the Southern Confederacy recognized as soon as possible. I speak in this way with the greatest impartiality, for I do not permit myself to be influences by any other consideration than that of humanity and that of good sense; and if my former ideas have been modified a little, it is because circumstances have changed. Events have moved forward, and personally, and by my own efforts, I have been able to convince myself of everything that I propose.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

blaming true cause of Civil War on tariffs benefiting the north, and an overall blame for the war on the "almighty dollar"

Boulogne, Sunday, June 23, '61.

My dear Cousin...

It has been a long time since I have had the pleasure of giving you the details about my trip, and events have moved swiftly in America since my last letter.

I left that country in extreme disorder, and I can't tell you how calm life in Paris seems to me after all that political excitement which, without touching you directly, carries you along despite yourself, and makes you take the interests of others to heart as if they were your own...

I don't think, my dear cousin, that I have written you in detail since my stay at New Orleans. Since then, I traversed the whole South, the West, and the North, and attentively observed the march of events. I came to the realization of the ideas prevalent in the different parts of the country. I succeeded in forming for myself an impartial judgment amidst the exaggerations of the two opposing sides.

Now the struggle has been entered into between the North and the South, a struggle of giants, or rather of boule-dogues, in which no one will yield, and wherein, after months and perhaps years of implacable combat, the two sides will find themselves back at the very place from which they started, both of them weakened, with their resources exhausted, their country ruined, with the best of their blood sacrificed, and with no other result obtained than deepening the abyss between them.

The Constitution of the United States is such that a good lawyer can easily find the pro and the con in it. The South claims that it has the right to secede. At New Orleans the foreigner who listens to the arguments will be persuaded by them. The North affirms that the Union of the states is an unassailable principle; if you return to New York you will find that it also is perfectly right.

I am not going to discuss the problem from the legal point of view. I only want to give you an idea of the facts and my appreciation of the struggle which is going to break out.

Several Southern states, as you know, were bought by the first states...principally of the North and the West. They are Louisiana, ceded by France for the sum of eighty millions [francs]; Florida, bought from Spain for sixty millions; Texas, and New Mexico. To keep these states, the federal government was obliged to spend additional large sums and to sacrifice a large number of troops in order to expel the Indians from them. It made all these sacrifices in order to possess the Gulf of Mexico and to be master of the mouth of the Mississippi. Since the Constitution declared that every integral part of the United States must have equal privileges, these new states were placed on an equal footing with the old ones, and they were granted all the privileges which the others possessed, included in which was the theory of the sovereignty of the states.

This theory, which is one of the prerogatives of absolute liberty, was no danger to the existence of the federal government as long as each state was too weak to defend itself alone, and when the most complete union was necessary for defense against foreign invasion or internal enemies, as long as their interests seemed to be the same, and the population had not attained the development which it has now. Today, the Southern states, which were enticed to utilize the money and the forces of the North for growth and preservation, find that their interests are no longer the same.

I'll come back later to the "slavery" question, which was the first pretext for secession, but which was just a pretext and is now secondary. The true reason which impelled the Southern states to secede is the question of tariffs. The South is simply a producer and consumer; the West and the North, and especially the East, are almost entirely manufacturers, but they need strong protection. The South could supply itself with all necessary items in Europe, at prices from twenty-five to forty percent lower than what they have been paying up to now. It contends that these duties do it no good and that the money goes back into the pockets of the Northern manufacturers. Therefore it wants to escape from this tax. The suppression of, or even a strong reduction in, these duties would completely ruin the eastern states of New Jersey and Pennsylvania, which could not compete with the cheap prices attained by England and even by France. Thousands of men would find themselves unemployed and would therefore threaten the well-being and the very existence not only of their employers, but even of the merchants and the producers in those areas, leading to an imminent danger of social revolution, which the North must avoid at all costs.

This question of tariffs has been discussed in the deliberative assemblies for more than twenty years, and despite the efforts of the South, despite the majority which its supporters in the North gave it, the country has leaned more toward protectionism than toward free trade. Since a Republican President was elected, the South felt that its cause was lost, that the encroachments on its principles would become greater and greater each day under the protection of the federal government. It therefore preferred to fight at once rather than be paralyzed by the measures of the President.

In accordance with the theory of the sovereignty of the states, the South declared that since the federal government did not keep the terms of the contract with the South and threatened its liberties, it had the right to secede, and it did so, impelled to this extreme decision by ambitious politicians who exploited the passions of the masses to their advantage, and who hoped in this way to preserve the power which they lost through the election of the Republican candidate.

The North says that certain states have the right to secede, if the majority of the states meeting in general convention permits them to, but that they cannot do so without this authorization. It says that the Union is one of the principles of the Constitution, and that it must be maintained at all costs. And, indeed, if it is not, the North would cease to exist as a nation. If the principle of secession is recognized, there are no reasons why, within the two new confederations that would be formed, there should not be an individual secession of dissatisfied states, or, within the state itself, a secession of cities or of counties. Anglo-Saxon America would then be reduced to the wretched state reached in Spanish South America by the application of this unfortunate principle.

Even supposing that things didn't go that far, all the advantages would be found on the side of the South, and the North would have no market. (1) With an imaginary and geographical line being the only separation between two countries of the same origin, of the same race, and of the same language, the smallest matter could plunge the country back into war. (2) Why did the North spend millions and fight for many years to bring the South into the Union? It was certainly not because of philanthropy for the people that inhabited it, but rather to be master of all the ports of the Atlantic and of the Gulf of Mexico, and of those of the Pacific, from Canada to the Rio Grande. Furthermore, it was in order to have a sure market for the products of the West through the Mississippi Delta. By recognizing the Southern Confederacy, the other states would abandon themselves to the good will of a rival nation, which, on any given day, could blockade all commerce for the purpose of obtaining new concessions. The North would be committing suicide morally. It therefore prefers to perish and to be ruined, with its weapons in its hands and with a chance for success, rather than to die from a lingering illness.

Many people think that the struggle won't last long because of the important question of the "Almighty Dollar"; it is precisely the "Almighty Dollar" that will prolong the contest.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

New Orleans

New Orleans, April 2, '61.

Herrmann, the MagicianHer[r]mann, the famous prestidigitator, who was one of the passengers [on the steamboat going from New York to New Orleans], did a few tricks for them. This Her[r]mann is a topnotch man, with extraordinary talent in his profession. His extreme munificence has gotten for him the honorary distinctions of sovereigns and the most flattering testimonials of private individuals. He is covered with decorations and medals.

An Israelite by birth, he has remained strongly attached to his faith. Now that he has established his entire family and donated more than 800,000 francs for the poor in the various countries he has been through, he is going to retire in Hamburg with a fortune of 1,000,000 francs....

New Orleans, April 5, '61.

The entry into New Orleans is very striking, with all those huge, three-decked ships lined up side by side. They look like bucentaurs, or like ancient Spanish galleys. They are veritable strong, floating chateaux, and beside them ordinary ships look like pygmies.

New Orleans is a very French city which has preserved the customs of the mother country. Despite the Anglo-Saxon element which is beginning to become dominant, the old French city [still exists]. I asked what language I should speak in the city, and was told: "French on the right of Canal Street, English on the left."...

The Creole women are very beautiful and extremely nice. They have the most beautiful eyes and the prettiest feet in the world. They are generally unlearned, except those who have been brought up in Europe. Their conversation never rises above the commonplace. At the races, where they got together last week, they were in full dress and occupied a platform similar to the one in Chantilly. There were about two or three hundred of them there, each more beautiful than the other and all belonging to society. I never in my life saw a more perfect and beautiful sight.

I was admirably received...Mr. J. M. Call, a rich planter whom I met at New Port, made it his business to do me the honors of his city and his state. The other day he took me to his plantation eighty miles north of New Orleans, and he invited several people to accompany us...

Mr. J. M. Call's plantation is well-kept and well-directed. He owns 250 negroes, and I confess frankly that they seem better fed and in better health and happier than many of our countrymen, and especially better than the free negroes.

There is a complete difference between these and the Cuban slaves, just as there is between a stupid peasant from the mountains and the intelligent workman of the cities. I cannot deny that the negroes are punished when they do not behave well, but at the same time the greatest care is taken of their health, and even of their well-being. Each settlement has its hospital and its doctor. The negroes do not work on Sundays, and often they are taken, as a reward, in carts to the neighboring city, where they can dance and have as much fun as they want. Consequently, a negro prefers to receive twenty-five lashes than to be kept in on Sunday.

The slavery question in the United States is not understood in Europe. It is even less understood in the Northern states, where political passions and hereditary prejudices obscure still more the judgments in this regard. I myself at New York did not conceive an exact idea of the state of affairs, and it is only through being here that I have been able to arrive at an impartial realization of the situation.

The South could not do otherwise than separate. The invading element of the North would annihilate and ruin it, and it would perhaps not have the strength and the resources that it now has. Therefore it cannot go back on its decision, and whatever the national administration does, the Southern states will defend their independence at the cost of their last cent and of their last drop of blood.

Therefore the European states should indeed intercede in order to avoid bloodshed which would be useless and very detrimental to their commerce. I am here in the center of the news, arriving at each moment and generally contradictory.

We are expecting the bombardment of Charlestown [S.C.]. But what interest there is in seeing this new government being formed! Men are enlisting en masse, but money is lacking...

New Orleans, April 20, '61.

The political news is so important and occupies the minds of all to such an extent that there remains little inclination to bother with minor news and with tittle-tattle. Everyone still continues to be very nice toward me and tries to show me that the South is not inhabited by savages. And, indeed, in all my travels thus far I have found nothing that is so much like Paris.

It is true that the numerous Creole families which came here at different times to seek their fortune, or to escape from political or religious persecution, have preserved those old traditions, which, unfortunately, tend to disappear from our country as the days go by.

Life on the plantations amidst the negroes is the life of a country gentleman, the greatest comfort without the slightest luxury.

The houses in New Orleans are for the most part small, but elegant and comfortable, and very good for receptions.

The chief feature of the social make-up of the country is the horse races. The season lasts a week, but there is only one race a day, and these have little interest because of the small number of horses involved. Yet the race track is the meeting place for all the ladies in the city, and I can't describe to you what a pretty view they offer. The quadrupeds, therefore, aren't the heroes of the day, but rather it is the bipeds to whom much more attention is paid.

Since the race track belongs to a private society, like our Jockey Club in Paris, the members don't admit anyone but "gentlemen," and they have a large, beautiful gallery reserved exclusively for themselves and the "invited guests." This gallery leads into another one where all the ladies assemble. Beneath this last gallery there is a large hall where, at all hours, a magnificent lunch is served for the ladies, paid for by the members of the society, who are very gallant, as you see.

The great rage in the Confederate States and in the United States is to organize fairs. The ladies devote themselves to this project with an ardor worthy of our most indefatigable alms collectors. If you don't go there, they maltreat you; if you do go there, you are "taken for a ride"' but I must admit that the women merchants are quite pretty, and that they have everything they need to rob you. Some of them sell, others work the lotteries, and the prettiest are at the refreshment or the supper table. I saw one of these ladies asking twenty-five piasters for a chicken wing! In this way they do a good business for their cause...

What is astonishing here, or rather, what is not astonishing, is the high position occupied by our coreligionists, or rather by those who were born into the faith and who, having married Christian women, and without converting, have forgotten the practices of their fathers.

Judah P. Benjamin, the Attorney General of the Confederate States, is perhaps the greatest mind on this continent. H.M. Hyams, the lieutenant governor of Louisiana, Moyse, the Secretary of the Interior, etc. And what is odd, all these men have a Jewish heart and take an interest in me, because I represent the greatest Jewish house in the world.

Hyams, for example, who is a topnotch man and on whose shoulders rests all the work of the state of Louisiana, comes to see me almost daily, or asks me to come to see him, and gives me a course, so to speak, in American and Southern politics. He has read to me a very large number of chapters from books written twenty years ago, to help me understand the present problem, giving me the pros and the cons, and having me read all the statistics that his position permits him to have, and giving me all possible information on the question of the tariffs, which is now the principal question of the moment. Thanks to him and to several other obliging persons, I can flatter myself that I know the American problem more deeply than any foreigner or than a large number of natives...

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:33 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

New York, June 12, '60.

...People are scarcely occupied with anything beside politics here. Who will be nominated? Who will be the lucky one to be elected? Those are the questions of the day. In a week part of the great secret will be revealed.

But a violent movement of dissolution has started in the United States. Whatever the result of the struggle may be, the malcontents will secede and will try to take along with them a section of the states. A rupture is thus imminent between the North and the South. Despite assurances to the contrary which I receive on all sides, and despite the smiles of incredulity on the faces of all my friends, I am sure that within a very short time America will be divided into Northern states and Southern states, which will soon be handed over to some adventurers such as we know in Europe.

It is probable that I shall go to Baltimore for a few days next week to attend that political chaos called a nomination, that great struggle where all ambitions and all intrigues battle, where all means are used, honest or otherwise, where corruptions, threats, and influence join in battle, and prove to the whole world that this country, despite its apparent greatness, despite its youth, despite its vigor, is like a fruit rotting before it has a chance to ripen. I'll stop right here, for if you let yourself go too far in your thoughts, you would become a misanthrope. I shall go at once and renew my strength by taking a shower bath under one of the falls of Niagara, and I shall see if the homeland of the Mohicans has changed any in appearance and in nature since it was described by [James Fennimore] Cooper.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Spectacular Thirsty Halford

New York, January 7, '61.

...Here New Year's Day, far from being a family celebration, is literally the festival of people who are unimportant and even unknown. The ladies start getting dressed up at 8:00 a.m. in evening clothes to receive their visitors. The young men begin their rounds of yearly compliments at 10:00 a.m., and, in one gulp, they take in all the dinners, dances, suppers, etc., of the New Year. So, for the most part, all they do is walk in and walk out; there are some of them who have a list of 150 to 200 visits to make.

For my part, I had a frightening number of visits to make, but at 6:30 p.m. I stopped at the fortieth! Among this number, I went to see two persons that I didn't know at all.

In each house there is a buffet copiously stocked, and certain people visit only the different buffets...The barroom proprietors also serve free drinks to their regular customers and, as a result, in the evening the streets of New York present a slightly bacchic and eccentric spectacle.

I was personally very well treated by the fair sex, for I received a rather large quantity of embroidered, knit, and crocheted articles...

Politics is still as it was. the statesmen keep pace so little with conditions that they commit error after error and make a mess of everything each time there is a glimmering of hope for a settlement. Yesterday they were about to appeal to the people, with the hope that everything would be settled; but today reinforcements were sent to Major Anderson [at Fort Sumter] and the dispute is becoming exasperated. From one moment to the next I expect the first cannon shot, which will be the signal for civil war.

Since the government is and considers itself to be powerless to control the storm, President Buchanan conceived of a day of fasting and public prayer. We're back in the days of Esther and Mordecai! So therefore, on January 4th, everything was closed except the churches (my faithful Pierre having naturally made his arrangements for my breakfast the day before, for despite my strong desire to see the Union saved, I can't actually sacrifice for it my stomach and my desire for nourishment).

The churches and temples overflowed with penitents. Each "reverend" gave a topical sermon from his own point of view. But the most remarkable sermon was that of Rabbi Raphael of the German congregation [Morris J. Raphall of Congregation B'nai Jeshurun]. The Unionist [fusion party] leaders found it so beautiful that they allocated funds to print and distribute hundreds of thousands of copies of it in all the states of the Union, in order to enlighten the people as to their duties and their true interests. I am not at all so enthusiastic, for he says that the bible authorizes slavery. Forsooth! the Bible shows us Abraham and Jacob with a number of wives, not to mention [King Solomon] my "namesake".

New York, January 21, '61.

I won't talk at great length about American politics today, for I am too profoundly disgusted with the lack of patriotism and astonished by the complete worthlessness of all these demagogues. No one wants to sacrifice any of his ideas or pretensions. I believe that it is all up with the Union of the states; any compromise will come too late.

Georgia seceded the day before yesterday. Louisiana is going to follow suit within two weeks, and then the border states will be forced to make common cause with the secessionists. The Southern states will then be able to form a powerful confederation. As for Lincoln, the future President, he is entirely below his position, and the Republicans themselves regret having nominated him. He refuses all compromises and thinks only of repression by force of arms. He has the external appearance of a peasant and all he does is tell tavern anecdotes. The other day I saw one of his partisans who had gone to see him at Springfield [Illinois], to chat with him about the current situation. He found him seated, in shirt sleeves, his feet on the mantelpiece, his hat on his head, amusing himself by making huge semicircles with tobacco juice that he squeezed out of his quid.

After a conversation that threw no light on Mr. Lincoln's views, the visitor, who is one of the Republican chiefs, went off, greatly disappointed in the future President. Here nullities give no umbrage; the greatest claim to public favors is to be unknown...

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Date: September 20th, 2017 4:55 PM
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