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Any gun guys here think it might be a good idea to ban autos and semis?
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:37 AM Author: Buff Church Sex Offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346584) |
Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:38 AM Author: Diverse karate aren't autos banned? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346594) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Anal hominid I believe they are not banned but regulated/taxed to the point of unfeasibility (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346603) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:45 AM Author: motley impressive casino Correct. There's a finite supply (pre 86) and they are, rightly in my opinion, very heavily regulated, quite expensive, and generally not used in many crimes.
Of course there are illegal automatic weapons out there--smuggled in, stolen or diverted from police and military armories (I think the latter used to be a big problem), or converted semi automatics--but I don't think that many crimes are committed with those either |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:47 AM Author: Diverse karate what are the chances Paddock was using a legal auto? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346674) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:48 AM Author: Excitant shaky codepig 0.002% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346683) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:48 AM Author: Ruddy Indian Lodge Nibblets Someone tweeted that the those pre-86 automatic weapons are $20-30k or more on the civilian market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346684) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:48 AM Author: motley impressive casino Yup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346690) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:50 AM Author: Coral locale deer antler How do you get a full auto weapon? I thought the only way was to either own a commercial gun range/license for one or buy a bunch of land, incorporate it as a municipality, and buy weapons on behalf of its police department. Or do you just need to get a bunch of permits and shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346699) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:51 AM Author: motley impressive casino You can own them as a private citizen; I don't know the specifics but there is a transfer tax stamp and I believe there is an additional background check more rigorous than the generic instant background check. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346709) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:51 AM Author: odious dragon set private citizens can do it but it involves paying a special $200 tax and a long background check (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346710) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:52 AM Author: motley impressive casino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346716) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:53 AM Author: Coral locale deer antler doesn't really seem that difficult to get one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346719) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:57 AM Author: Well-lubricated Water Buffalo It is not easy and fully auto guns tend to be really expensive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346756) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM Author: odious dragon set have you tried to get one? the other fly in the ointment is the fact that the gun has to be made prior to May 1986. this means there's a finite supply and so the prices for these guns start out at around $10K - $15K. not exactly the same as buying a $400 used glock pistol from cabela's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346779) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:05 PM Author: Coral locale deer antler no i don't really need a gun
and i get that but like assuming you have the money for it and the desire to buy one it doesn't seem prohibitively difficult as long as you can pass a background check |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:21 PM Author: odious dragon set true but those are pretty hurdles imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347024) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:56 AM Author: carmine duck-like space For an individual, you can file a Form 4 (tax paid transfer of a title II firearm), submit fingerprint cards and two passport photos to the ATF, then wait about a year for your paperwork to be processed. The background check itself is exactly the same as the NICS that is done instantly in a store when buying any kind of firearm. However, due to federal law the ATF can only process hard copies instead of digital for NFA items and there are literal shipping containers full of files in the parking lot of their branch in Martinsburg, WV.
The other route is one you mentioned where you run a gun store and apply for a type 07 FFL with SOT endorsement. This lets you manufacture machine guns and NFA items, however you need to demonstrate that you're running a for profit business and not just trying to have a private collection of machine guns. So you'll need to get "love letters" or RFPs from government entities for a specific gun they want to have demonstrated. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:57 AM Author: Diverse karate could Paddock have gone through this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346753) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM Author: carmine duck-like space He could have, but I guarantee he didn't. Listening to the rate of fire changing on the guns, he was using a semi auto with a drum magazine or belt fed upper and a crank trigger like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrE1-wSWQKc |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 1:02 PM Author: Anal hominid Everybody is saying it's full auto, probably an M249. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347451) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM Author: Well-lubricated Water Buffalo In theory, it's possible. It's also possible, in theory, that I win 3 lotto jackpots in a row. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346778) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Razzle White Base Nah transport is still too important. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346599) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Anal hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346604) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:41 AM Author: motley impressive casino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346630) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Demanding athletic conference lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346634) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Pink Associate ofs. but how do you propose getting rid of the ones already out there? Its not like heroin, which will be consumed. If you cut off the supply of NEW machine guns, the current guns will just circulate and sink into criminal hands (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346601) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:40 AM Author: Buff Church Sex Offender ofs, but they will at least slowly get taken out of system (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346618) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 2:20 PM Author: Slate soul-stirring therapy clown Gold is a better example than heroin. They just produce more heroin to offset what is seized and sell it at higher prices and cause more drug related crime (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34348123) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 2:21 PM Author: Slate soul-stirring therapy clown And you don't think the black market can produce weapons? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34348137) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:40 AM Author: mentally impaired aphrodisiac theatre newt Why are you lumping semis in with autos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346614) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:41 AM Author: Buff Church Sex Offender high capacity semis are just as bad as autos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346629) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:45 AM Author: mentally impaired aphrodisiac theatre newt In what way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346669) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:47 AM Author: Excitant shaky codepig State your IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346677) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:55 AM Author: Racy sneaky criminal lodge there's an intelligent argument to be made that he's right, but it's because it's basically impossible to be accurate with a fully automatic weapon that's actually shooting on auto (especially at distance), not because they can shoot more bullets in a given amount of time, as idiots seem to think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346734) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:57 AM Author: Well-lubricated Water Buffalo While true, that's not the argument he seems to be making. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346746) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM Author: Racy sneaky criminal lodge you're right, of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346770) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM Author: Excitant shaky codepig All autos can be fired semi-auto. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346768) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:10 PM Author: carmine duck-like space Not even remotely true. Tons of open bolt full auto only guns are out there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346907) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:23 PM Author: Excitant shaky codepig So the argument is that all semi autos are as bad as all autos because a subset of autos is full auto only? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347050) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:08 PM Author: lascivious stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346880) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:52 AM Author: Well-lubricated Water Buffalo CQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346713) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:42 AM Author: electric overrated faggot firefighter Come and take (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346639) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:43 AM Author: sexy school Friend at breakfast this morning
Him: You know... assault rifles are going to be banned... you know!
Me: What is an assault rifle?
Him: I'm not a gun guy, but assault rifles WILL be banned.
Me: What is an assault rifle? |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:47 AM Author: Coral locale deer antler don't you live in alaska? how the fuck are there people clueless about guns living there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346672) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:48 AM Author: sexy school It's my foreveralone genius friend that hates hunting and fishing. Smarter than my friend that was Summa at Yale.
He's actually shot my AR's with me and thought it was fun.
He's even shot my 10/22 and mini 14.
I asked him if AR's are assault rifles, he said "Obviously yes!"
I then asked him about the 10/22 and mini 14, he said those probably aren't assault rifles. I LJL'd at him. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:00 PM Author: Bronze location Libs are utterly retarded when it comes to guns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346792) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:00 PM Author: Bronze location Libs are utterly retarded when it comes to guns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346793) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:10 PM Author: Shimmering trip gas station round eye Libs are utterly retarded when it comes to guns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346905) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:10 PM Author: Shimmering trip gas station round eye Libs are utterly retarded when it comes to guns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346909) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:49 AM Author: Bronze location Libs out in full force to take away ARE GUNS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346694) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:12 PM Author: lascivious stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346927) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:49 AM Author: Bronze location Libs out in full force to take away ARE GUNS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346695) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:54 AM Author: Well-lubricated Water Buffalo Fully-automatic guns: incredibly hard to get a hold of, incredibly expensive, incredibly rare, and almost never used to commit crimes.
Semi-automatic guns: the majority of handguns and rifles available.
Not the same thing. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:56 AM Author: Transparent turdskin point banning drugs makes it next to impossible to buy drugs! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346744) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 2:23 PM Author: Slate soul-stirring therapy clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34348163) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:58 AM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria Dopamine Gun owner here. I spent Saturday morning duck hunting with my Mossberg (TTT, I know, but I don't want to drag a $$$ gun through water + steel shot). I think I can speak to this.
Full autos are de-facto banned already. FFL + cost of buying one is prohibitive for most crazies.
Unfortunately, multiple AR manufacturers intentionally make their AR-15 knockoffs very convertible, and conversion kits aren't illegal. This should change. Watching the videos, it seems likely the shooter had a converted AR, but this is just speculation on my part.
Magazines should be limited. There is no good reason to have >20 rounds in a clip. People buying 100 round drum clips are looking to shoot into a crowd; the weight alone would make most guns unwieldy.
Banning semi-autos is ridiculous, though. Are you really going to take away my 5 shot 12 gauge because someone in Las Vegas did something crazy? |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM Author: sable hell striped hyena cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346774) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:02 PM Author: carmine duck-like space "Unfortunately, multiple AR manufacturers intentionally make their AR-15 knockoffs very convertible, and conversion kits aren't illegal. This should change."
What do you mean by this? AR-15 lowers have a shelf to prevent installing an M16 fire control group even if you drill the third pin hole for the auto sear. You could theoretically make a lightning link, but those are very difficult to get right because they need some precises heat treating and accurate cutting on very thin strips of metal.
"Magazines should be limited. There is no good reason to have >20 rounds in a clip. People buying 100 round drum clips are looking to shoot into a crowd; the weight alone would make most guns unwieldy."
First off it's not a clip, but I believe you're definitely a fudd. Second, why should I not have firepower parity with police? The whole point of the second amendment is to stop government tyranny, and I think short of WMD anything should be on the table if someone will sell it to you. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:04 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria Dopamine https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/guns/new-trigger-makes-ar-15s-nearly-full-auto/
https://www.brownells.com/aspx/Search/Default.aspx?avs%7CStyle_1=Drop-In%7CFull+Auto
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:08 PM Author: carmine duck-like space First link is a competition trigger that allows bump firing, no different than just a hair trigger but with an added mode to make it safer during normal (non-bump) usage.
Second link is a bunch of drop in triggers, none of which offer full auto functionality or anything similar. One squeeze of the trigger = one bullet fired, exactly the same as your mossberg. Some of the Geissle ones are compatible with legally installed full auto parts but will only function in semi auto in a regular AR15.
I get your intentions, but you're woefully underinformed about how guns work and you should stop spraying idiocy like you're some kind of expert because you own a couple fudd guns. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:07 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria Dopamine The people who say "it's not a clip it's a magazine" are some of the more annoying of the gun-rights autists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346872) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:35 PM Author: obsidian thirsty piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347184) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:02 PM Author: Well-lubricated Water Buffalo Cr. Good luck getting a compromise on large capacity mags though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346813) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:03 PM Author: odious dragon set re your " >20 rounds in a [magazine]": I have a 33 round magazine for my house pistol. what if i encounter 3 or 4 knuckleheads trying to steal my stuff? also, what if i miss due to the adrenalin dump im sure ill be feeling? plus, pistols are wimpy and it's going to take more than one hit to stop a bad guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346827) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:06 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria Dopamine It's a tradeoff, dude. Yes, your freedom to shoot a massive amount of lead w/o reloading is curtailed.
But the freedom of people who don't want to be shot in drive-bys and similar chicago thug tactics is (hopefully) enhanced.
The issue with gun violence in USA is not assault weapons; it's kids in Chicago and New Orleans who can't shoot for shit but drive down the street spraying lead. That's the problem. My solution, albeit imperfect, would limit the amount of lead an untrained gang member can send flying. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:09 PM Author: carmine duck-like space Except most of the kids slinging lead in Chicago are using <$100 saturday night special pistols like lorcins, hi-points, and jennings guns. Look at the pictures of confiscated guns from NYC and Chiraq, they're mostly junk or generic pistols stolen from police/private citizens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346897) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:16 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria Dopamine You're simply wrong here.
IN DC, in 2016, half of all guns recovered and used in a crime had extended mags. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:19 PM Author: carmine duck-like space Source? Those are very illegal in DC and the "recovered and used in crime" are two different things: were they all used in crimes or is it lumping in recovered magazines AND guns used in crimes? Sounds like weasel words to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347007) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:20 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria Dopamine http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/shoot-to-kill/
Police in other cities are also finding bigger magazines. In Washington, where gun seizures by police's gun recovery unit were up nearly 50 percent so far this year over last, police noticed more rounds being shot at scenes and signs of multiple shooters. So they began keeping statistics.
Last year, about one-third of guns recovered had high-capacity magazines. Through June of this year, nearly half had large clips.
With that kind of firepower, homicides spiked in Washington, Baltimore and more than a quarter of the largest American cities last year, pushing the nation's annual murder rate up by the largest margin in nearly 50 years. The higher pace of killing has continued in many cities this year.
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:13 PM Author: electric overrated faggot firefighter Why not just ban guns in cities like Chicago?
Or ban brown males from owning guns aged 1-39? |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:13 PM Author: carmine duck-like space Or how about we just ban violent minorities from America?
edit: your edit was a good compromise, but they'll just steal them and blame gun owning whitey for it. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:25 PM Author: odious dragon set I agree with your last paragraph about the issue with gun violence in the USA. Not to get off topic and I'm not a criminal defensemo but don't a lot of gun charges get thrown out when people get charged with crimes? How do you think that plays out in gun violence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347071) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:11 PM Author: Coral locale deer antler what kind of pistol is it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346917) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:23 PM Author: odious dragon set nothing fancy just a glock 19 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347046) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:30 PM Author: Tripping Concupiscible Immigrant cop a glock 21 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347133) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:52 PM Author: odious dragon set why man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347363) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:57 PM Author: Tripping Concupiscible Immigrant .45 is bigger than 9mm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347410) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 2:22 PM Author: Coral locale deer antler Just use a five seven then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34348153) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:30 PM Author: Tripping Concupiscible Immigrant if you encounter 3 or 4 knuckleheads "trying to steal your stuff," you should shoot exactly zero bullets at them. guns are for SELF defense, not property defense.
now, it's perfectly foreseeable that those knuckleheads will become violent or threaten you harm in the process of stealing your stuff. in that case, let them possess several small bits of scrap metal from your collection. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:52 PM Author: odious dragon set I phrased that poorly. What I was envisioning was 3 or 4 guys breaking into my house while I'm home. Maybe their intent is just to steal my TV or whatever, IDK. I recognize that that's very different than someone shooting at someone stealing my car or something like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347358) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:55 PM Author: Tripping Concupiscible Immigrant i was envisioning 3 or 4 guys breaking into your home but then calling "time out" and politely explaining to you that they were only there to take property belonging to you and that no physical harm would befall you or your family whatsoever before calling "game on" again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347388) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:56 PM Author: odious dragon set sounds like biglaw lives matter has gotten into the robbery game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347402) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:57 PM Author: Tripping Concupiscible Immigrant anything for content creation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347412) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:05 PM Author: Bronze location lol at this faggot cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34346846) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:21 PM Author: lascivious stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34347031) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:49 PM Author: Buck-toothed Abode Do you know how many people you can kill with FIVE SHOTGUN SHELLS?!
Tube fed magazines should be limited. There is no good reason to have > 1 shell in the shotgun at a time. People loading 5 shells at a time are looking to shoot into a crowd; the weight alone would make most guns unwieldy. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:52 PM Author: Tripping Concupiscible Immigrant have you ever fired a fully-loaded, 5-shell shotgun? it's not unwieldy at all.
and yes, there's a good reason to have >1 shell in at a time: you may need to disable >1 person trying to harm you. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 12:54 PM Author: Buck-toothed Abode It's a tradeoff, dude. Yes, your freedom to protect yourself by shooting a massive amount of lead w/o reloading is curtailed.
But the freedom of people who don't want to be shot in drive-bys and similar chicago thug tactics is (hopefully) enhanced. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 2:16 PM Author: Slate soul-stirring therapy clown I'd be willing to only allow handguns and hunting rifles, but if I we were to get to that point, the left would just use the momentum to ban all guns. So the question really is would you prefer the status quo or the complete disarmament of the citizenry? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34348066) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 2:22 PM Author: cracking learning disabled site wagecucks fuck that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34348147) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 2:28 PM Author: Yellow Stage No. These incidents are eclipsed by your chances of getting got by normal criminals. Fuck libs and fuck gun control.
Also, this guy probably had illegal guns anyway (it is easy to illegally make guns fully auto). |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:05 PM Author: hairraiser home It sucks that we can't have peace and be a normal first world country because we're held hostage by gun nuts and their paranoid lunacy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34352828) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:09 AM Author: Buff Church Sex Offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34353487) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:19 AM Author: slippery territorial macaca ape one day they're totally going to hold off the military's fleet of autonomous flying death robots though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34353558) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:22 AM Author: Buff Church Sex Offender did you see that 60 minutes piece? scary as hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3750650&forum_id=2#34353587) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:31 AM Author: Bossy people who are hurt psychic No.
Legally owned fully automatic weapons have been used in three crimes since 1934. It is overwhelmingly likely that Paddock illegally converted a semiautomatic weapon.
The feasibility of banning semiautomatic weapons, including assault rifles (a bullshit semantic distinction), in a country with more firearms than citizens is very low and likely only harms non-criminals. |