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The reign of Justinian is the most 180 shit in human history

and it's not even close. It was like non-stop Shakespeare ir...
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  10/12/17
my favorite period is sulla
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  10/12/17
the variety and magnitude of drama during Justinian is unpar...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
what about the Flavian dynasty? They wrote the new testament...
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  10/13/17
Any particular events with Justinian you'd recommend reading...
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  10/12/17
On January 13, 532, a tense and angry populace arrived at th...
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  10/12/17
Epic! This man understood the nexus between sports and patr...
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  10/12/17
Maybe Roger Goodell stopped the kneeling recently after TRUM...
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  10/12/17
That's usually told as a story about how brave and resourcef...
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So brave giving a man without balls some money and having a ...
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Justinian picked her out to be his empress when she was just...
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  10/13/17
Also, my understanding was that he made the plan for being t...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/13/17
what about the 80s
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  10/12/17
(guy who didn't read the suetonius lives of tiberius, caligu...
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  10/12/17
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  10/12/17
Difference though is Justinian reigned for a seriously long ...
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pissing around in Italy?
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  10/12/17
Brother they also recaptured North Africa, southern Spain, a...
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all of which added up to what? Justinian is famous because ...
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What does anything add up to in the end? Caesar? Napoleon? A...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
Caesar conquered Gaul and basically founded the empire, Alex...
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And Napoleon is unbelievably 180 shit, so...
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but he turned a truly failed state into to damn near a conti...
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324 to 1453. It was the most powerful empire in the world fo...
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  10/12/17
to begin with that's a bullshit starting date, but fine, sti...
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  10/12/17
Oh, it was a shithold by 527? Lol dude ur done here
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
"A still more resonant aspect of his legacy was the uni...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
How Shakespearean
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  10/13/17
LOL nice flame. Well done. You change the thesis, I humored ...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/13/17
look he's obviously important, but I stand by my opinion tha...
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  10/13/17
This thread isn't about just him anyways
Stirring clown codepig
  10/13/17
Oh, and he did all of this shit during a bubonic plague outb...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/13/17
*declares to a pile of corpses that the French will really t...
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All of which added up to what? You give Caesar credit for an...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
There was never any rebirth though, that shit was gone almos...
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Like Caesar's life
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
the valiant never taste of death but once
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Ever heard of Theodora? Plz stop
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  10/12/17
The stripper who never actually said the one famous thing at...
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Bro he never said this all had a great ending, he said it wa...
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  10/12/17
Cr. It almost feels like he's flaming
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
He's just talking strategically from the Good of the Empire ...
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  10/12/17
Not that Shakespearean though even, dood basically stayed in...
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  10/12/17
He was the George W. Bush of Byzantine Emperors.
misunderstood locus
  10/12/17
Nah. For starters, Barbra would have had to order Patreus bl...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
I bet ur a hit at parties
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
give me Justinian II, emperor twice, gets mutilated, marries...
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  10/12/17
i regret my role in this wasteland
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  10/12/17
we'd all be tiberius.
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  10/12/17
haha. yeah.
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Theodora was the OG ride or die bitch. "The Royal Purp...
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  10/12/17
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She was a 180 Byzantine
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eh, nothing nearly epic enough. One near revolution and a b...
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Lol dude. Belisarius spent the twilight of his life walki...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
isn't that apocryphal? Also ljl at Rome. One fat, insolent...
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No. It's 180, shakespeare, antigone level drama. And wtf ...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
Theodora was unadulterated 180
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
Belisarius's North African campaign was 180 But the most ...
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  10/12/17
dat comeback kid
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  10/12/17
Hersclius is 1800000000. Just march into Persia and take th...
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  10/13/17
Heraclius and his foreverwar against Persia was 180
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No clue. I'll read on it and cum back
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
https://www.amazon.com/Grand-Strategy-Byzantine-Empire/dp/06...
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  10/13/17
The Byzantine-Sasanian war was pretty nuts. In terms of jus...
misunderstood locus
  10/12/17
Idk man. I'm a big fan of the Ottomans. The janissaries were...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
How about the Mamelukes? They were also pretty badass for a...
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  10/12/17
Idk much about them other than Napoleon deepdicking them wit...
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  10/13/17
If heraclius could've won at Yarmuk, I think they could've h...
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  10/13/17
xo Bohemond during the First Crusade 180 af dude was an int...
misunderstood locus
  10/12/17
The first crusade was fascinating and somewhere in the T10, ...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
That said I think the First Crusade's whole 4-year period de...
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  10/12/17
that's what I mean. Justinian is like a boxing match th...
misunderstood locus
  10/12/17
I'd put 4 years of revolutionary France on the same tier
Stirring clown codepig
  10/12/17
Just finishing my big book on that exact period and I hearti...
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  10/13/17
what book? I want in
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  10/13/17
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Can't really get into the Byzantines. I like real Romans.
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  10/12/17
eh, Byzantines are more interesting for their enemies. Rome...
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Justinian's first language was Latin. Eastern Rome was still...
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Not to mention that from the Crisis of the Third Century onw...
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You realize it's like Shakespeare because it's essentially t...
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This is fair, and I've thought the same. But the sheer magni...
Stirring clown codepig
  10/13/17
Belisarius was probably not blinded.
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It's up there - my personal favorite time periods are Julius...
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Napoleon is up there for me. The whole story is unreal.
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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:55 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

and it's not even close. It was like non-stop Shakespeare irl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430134)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:56 PM
Author: Twinkling Razzmatazz Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

my favorite period is sulla

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430146)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:59 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

the variety and magnitude of drama during Justinian is unparalleled by anything else. I've read about sulla, and honestly don't even remember it which says enough. Have you read deep about the op?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430176)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 2:09 AM
Author: bipolar center prole

what about the Flavian dynasty? They wrote the new testament and fucking invented jesus christ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34431587)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: demanding insecure idea he suggested base

Any particular events with Justinian you'd recommend reading about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430151)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:08 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

On January 13, 532, a tense and angry populace arrived at the Hippodrome for the races. The Hippodrome was next to the palace complex, and thus Justinian could watch from the safety of his box in the palace and preside over the races. From the start, the crowd had been hurling insults at Justinian. By the end of the day, at race 22, the partisan chants had changed from "Blue" or "Green" to a unified Nίκα ("Nika", meaning "Win!!" "Victory!" or "Conquer!"), and the crowds broke out and began to assault the palace. For the next five days, the palace was under siege. The fires that started during the tumult resulted in the destruction of much of the city, including the city's foremost church, the Hagia Sophia (which Justinian would later rebuild).

Some of the senators saw this as an opportunity to overthrow Justinian, as they were opposed to his new taxes and his lack of support for the nobility. The rioters, now armed and probably controlled by their allies in the Senate, also demanded that Justinian dismiss the prefect John the Cappadocian, who was responsible for tax collecting, and the quaestor Tribonian, who was responsible for rewriting the legal code. They then declared a new emperor, Hypatius, who was a nephew of former Emperor Anastasius I.

Justinian, in despair, considered fleeing, but his wife Theodora is said to have dissuaded him, saying, "Those who have worn the crown should never survive its loss. Never will I see the day when I am not saluted as empress."[2] Although an escape route across the sea lay open for the emperor, Theodora insisted that she would stay in the city, quoting an ancient saying, "Royalty is a fine burial shroud," or perhaps, "[the royal color] Purple makes a fine winding sheet."[3]

As Justinian rallied himself, he created a plan that involved Narses, a popular eunuch, as well as the generals Belisarius and Mundus. Carrying a bag of gold given to him by Justinian, the slightly built eunuch entered the Hippodrome alone and unarmed, against a murderous mob that had already killed hundreds. Narses went directly to the Blues' section, where he approached the important Blues and reminded them that Emperor Justinian supported them over the Greens. He also reminded them that the man they were crowning, Hypatius, was a Green. Then, he distributed the gold. The Blue leaders spoke quietly with each other and then they spoke to their followers. Then, in the middle of Hypatius's coronation, the Blues stormed out of the Hippodrome. The Greens sat, stunned. Then, Imperial troops led by Belisarius and Mundus stormed into the Hippodrome, killing the remaining rebels.

About thirty thousand rioters were reportedly killed.[4] Justinian also had Hypatius executed and exiled the senators who had supported the riot. He then rebuilt Constantinople and the Hagia Sophia, and was free to establish his rule. He was also free to pursue his ultimate dream of a united Roman Empire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430259)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:14 PM
Author: demanding insecure idea he suggested base

Epic! This man understood the nexus between sports and patriotism...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430326)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:22 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Maybe Roger Goodell stopped the kneeling recently after TRUMP sent him this story? Maybe Bannon secretly met with Goodell and retold it in person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430407)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:55 PM
Author: carnelian exciting elastic band crackhouse

That's usually told as a story about how brave and resourceful Theodora was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430734)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:57 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

So brave giving a man without balls some money and having a man with balls slaughter the rest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430753)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:09 AM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Justinian picked her out to be his empress when she was just a lowly courtesan, so I think he gets some serious credit for her wise counsel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430855)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:13 AM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Also, my understanding was that he made the plan for being the blues to leave, and then slaughtering the rest. It was a brilliant move imo--what would you have done in that position?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430887)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: boyish messiness feces

what about the 80s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430158)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:02 PM
Author: Aquamarine mind-boggling rigpig

(guy who didn't read the suetonius lives of tiberius, caligula, or nero)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430196)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:02 PM
Author: Underhanded sanctuary internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430202)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:05 PM
Author: Vibrant brindle business firm

Difference though is Justinian reigned for a seriously long time, over an empire that was actually off doing shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430231)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:07 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

pissing around in Italy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430247)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: misunderstood locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430351)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:23 PM
Author: Vibrant brindle business firm

Brother they also recaptured North Africa, southern Spain, and Dalmatia, and fought two significant wars with the Sassanids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430419)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:25 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

all of which added up to what? Justinian is famous because he had a whore wife and a nice picture and built the biggest church. The rest was a fuck up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430429)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:28 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

What does anything add up to in the end? Caesar? Napoleon? Alexander? Or even your pisspot Nero example? Gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430451)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:34 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

Caesar conquered Gaul and basically founded the empire, Alexander crated western civilization and pwned the entire world, Napoleon would be a better comparison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430518)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:36 PM
Author: Vibrant brindle business firm

And Napoleon is unbelievably 180 shit, so...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430533)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:37 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

but he turned a truly failed state into to damn near a continent spanning empire, failed but still epic. Justinian turned a failing empire into, well, a failing empire with some Africans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430547)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:51 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

324 to 1453. It was the most powerful empire in the world for hundreds of years, and it peaked under Justinian. Your aggressive stupidity is actually making me irate...well played

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430683)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:54 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

to begin with that's a bullshit starting date, but fine, still by Justinian it was a steeply downward slope and he made it worse. As I recall when fighting Persians he mostly got wrecked and had to pay them. Should have focused on the east and maybe Africa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430714)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:57 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Oh, it was a shithold by 527? Lol dude ur done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430754)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

"A still more resonant aspect of his legacy was the uniform rewriting of Roman law, the Corpus Juris Civilis, which is still the basis of civil law in many modern states"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430765)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:00 AM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

How Shakespearean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430772)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:02 AM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

LOL nice flame. Well done. You change the thesis, I humored you and went a long with it, and then u rub it in my face. A+ work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430799)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:04 AM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

look he's obviously important, but I stand by my opinion that he's way overrated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430810)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:10 AM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

This thread isn't about just him anyways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430862)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:01 AM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Oh, and he did all of this shit during a bubonic plague outbreak. Plz retrieve the remnants of ur massacred boipussy, and gtfo of my Justinian appreciation thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430783)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:02 AM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

*declares to a pile of corpses that the French will really thank us all in 1300 years*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430795)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:37 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

All of which added up to what? You give Caesar credit for an empire, but not Justinian for its rebirth like a Pheonix from the ashes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430544)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:38 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

There was never any rebirth though, that shit was gone almost immediately

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430555)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:47 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Like Caesar's life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430637)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:49 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

the valiant never taste of death but once

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430659)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:54 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Ever heard of Theodora? Plz stop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430719)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:55 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

The stripper who never actually said the one famous thing attributed to her? Yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430733)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: Vibrant brindle business firm

Bro he never said this all had a great ending, he said it was 180 Shakespearean material. What, do you think Hamlet sucks because everybody is dead at the end?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430455)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:30 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Cr. It almost feels like he's flaming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430468)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:34 PM
Author: misunderstood locus

He's just talking strategically from the Good of the Empire point of view. In terms of a narrative/story, it's a 180 tragedy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430522)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:36 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

Not that Shakespearean though even, dood basically stayed in his house for 30 years while he frittered away armies and gold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430531)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:43 PM
Author: misunderstood locus

He was the George W. Bush of Byzantine Emperors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430604)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:47 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Nah. For starters, Barbra would have had to order Patreus blinded after his sex scandal (which was under Obama i think but u get the point.) The drama just doesn't compare. Iraq wasn't our long-lost capital, finally reclaimed. Are u guys running flame? Be straight with me for a second, fgt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430632)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:44 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

I bet ur a hit at parties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430611)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:47 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

give me Justinian II, emperor twice, gets mutilated, marries a barbarian hottie, pwns the usurpers then gets beheaded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430641)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:52 PM
Author: Aquamarine mind-boggling rigpig

i regret my role in this wasteland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430696)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:09 PM
Author: harsh fishy marketing idea

we'd all be tiberius.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430265)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:10 PM
Author: Aquamarine mind-boggling rigpig

haha. yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430269)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:04 PM
Author: Poppy Rehab

Theodora was the OG ride or die bitch. "The Royal Purple is the Noblest Shroud" or "Royalty is a Fine Burial Shroud" or however you want to translate it is an unadulterated 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430222)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:05 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

ultimate striver shrew, MY purple!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430228)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:56 PM
Author: carnelian exciting elastic band crackhouse

She was a 180 Byzantine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430742)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:04 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

eh, nothing nearly epic enough. One near revolution and a bunch of barbarian fighting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430223)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:13 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Lol dude.

Belisarius spent the twilight of his life walking the streets of Constantinople blinded and begging for change--the man who retook Rome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430313)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:15 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

isn't that apocryphal? Also ljl at Rome. One fat, insolent pope and dick else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430330)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:18 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

No. It's 180, shakespeare, antigone level drama.

And wtf is this dumb point you're making about Rome not being much in a strictly material sense? No shit the barbarians hadn't been taking very good care of it, dumbass. It was far bigger than that--the reunification of the EMPIRE--MAKING ROME GREAT AGAIN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430372)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:15 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Theodora was unadulterated 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430331)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:06 PM
Author: misunderstood locus

Belisarius's North African campaign was 180

But the most epic shit was xoxo Heraclius



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430243)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:07 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

dat comeback kid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430250)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:11 PM
Author: misunderstood locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430286)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: concupiscible school

Hersclius is 1800000000. Just march into Persia and take the fight to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34433648)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:08 PM
Author: Impressive abnormal lay organic girlfriend

Heraclius and his foreverwar against Persia was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430253)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:34 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

No clue. I'll read on it and cum back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430520)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: Violet slippery bawdyhouse

https://www.amazon.com/Grand-Strategy-Byzantine-Empire/dp/0674062078

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34433514)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:11 PM
Author: misunderstood locus

The Byzantine-Sasanian war was pretty nuts.

In terms of just studying the war, it is pretty fascinating.

But, historically speaking, it resulted in the creation and rise of Islam... and we're still feeling the effects today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430284)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:26 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Idk man. I'm a big fan of the Ottomans. The janissaries were fucking 180billion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430435)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: demanding insecure idea he suggested base

How about the Mamelukes? They were also pretty badass for a bunch of former slaves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430625)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

Idk much about them other than Napoleon deepdicking them with square formations during his Egypt campaign

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430905)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: concupiscible school

If heraclius could've won at Yarmuk, I think they could've held on to a lot more territory. Also, the byzantines should've been nicer to the monophosites. Would've made it easier to fight to keep Egypt.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34433679)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:16 PM
Author: misunderstood locus

xo Bohemond during the First Crusade 180 af

dude was an intense Chad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430345)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:33 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

The first crusade was fascinating and somewhere in the T10, but no where close to Justinian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430512)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:35 PM
Author: Vibrant brindle business firm

That said I think the First Crusade's whole 4-year period defeats any particular 4 years of Justinian. Truly one of the most incredible events in human history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430528)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:40 PM
Author: misunderstood locus

that's what I mean.

Justinian is like a boxing match that goes 12 rounds to the very end.

First Crusade is like the underdog nobody knocking out the champ against impossible odds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430571)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:54 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

I'd put 4 years of revolutionary France on the same tier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430710)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:05 AM
Author: Vibrant brindle business firm

Just finishing my big book on that exact period and I heartily agree, though you really need a 5-year span to capture the maximum kookiness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430824)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:16 AM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

what book? I want in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430914)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 1:28 AM
Author: aphrodisiac cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34431420)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:56 PM
Author: carnelian exciting elastic band crackhouse

Can't really get into the Byzantines. I like real Romans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430747)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: bisexual vermilion kitchen

eh, Byzantines are more interesting for their enemies. Rome was just poor saps getting pwned, internal strife and nameless barbarians until bam

Byzantines had to strive not to get swallowed up every damn decade

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430767)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:08 AM
Author: Vibrant brindle business firm

Justinian's first language was Latin. Eastern Rome was still quite Roman at the time. It was the mid-600s when Greek was made the administrative language of the empire that the distinct "Byzantine" character emerged.

If your problem is that the emperors weren't literally from Rome or even Italy, well, then most emperors from the 200s onward are out. All the best emperors from Aurelian to Justinian were Illyrian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430840)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: carmine cerebral indian lodge psychic

Not to mention that from the Crisis of the Third Century onwards emperors spent less time in Rome itself - Mediolanum, Ravenna were capitals for a while, and so was Nicomedia in the east before Constantinople was built

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34433583)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:10 AM
Author: pearl hall

You realize it's like Shakespeare because it's essentially the same things. These "histories" are mostly all bullshit or greatly exaggerated stories started by enemies or followers for various political or social reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430863)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:24 AM
Author: Stirring clown codepig

This is fair, and I've thought the same. But the sheer magnitude of Shakespearean themes from a conglomerate of primary sources we have of Justinian's reign makes it the GOAT.

You say bullshit or exaggerated--do you think Theodora wasn't really a Byzantine escort made empress? Or that the man who retook rome, belisarius, wasn't cucked by his wife, theodora's bestie, and then blinded for being pissed about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430968)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 1:23 AM
Author: Vibrant brindle business firm

Belisarius was probably not blinded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34431394)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 1:01 AM
Author: Know-it-all really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34431269)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Mewling menage mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34430999)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 2:47 AM
Author: Histrionic mahogany area wrinkle

It's up there - my personal favorite time periods are Julius Caesar from his political rise, military campaigns and eventual end of the Republic, everything surrounding this was fascinating drama, as well as nephew Gaius Octavius challenging Antony and just overall Octavian's rise to power. For that matter reading about the life of Gaius Octavius --> Augustus Caesar and establishing the principate and all his success by the time he died (found rome city of bricks, left rome city of marble etc etc). Fuck for that matter the entire Julio Claudian dynasty was completely insane and full of every type of interest, fetish, drama, romance, horror, political lesson you might have. We get romance, military campaigns, cuckoldry, public policy, religion, Shakespearean betrayal, Greek tragedy etc.

Another one is the Spanish conquests into the Americas - read detailed stories about some of the encounters and battles with the natives - these are some of the strangest and most interesting / violent battles you'll ever read about and most people haven't learned about this in detail.

One of my new favorites is the French Revolution - which has to be up there with any period in terms of sheer insanity and lack of logic. Has the added layer of humor where continual waves of leftist (left vs right terms are born here in an assembly hall that divides factions) extremists eat their own and violently overthrow the old leftists who weren't extreme enough, prescient indeed. Also depending where you put the stopping date a good bit of Napolean's rise to power gets included here - which studies separately or together would also make my list of most interesting topics of study.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34431745)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: transparent giraffe

Napoleon is up there for me. The whole story is unreal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34433634)



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Date: October 13th, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: concupiscible school

Why can't Ridley Scott just make a move about Nika Riots? Who would play Justinian and Belisarius?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3762607&forum_id=2#34433689)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 8:21 PM
Author: Stirring clown codepig



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