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Audi vs bmw reliability?

You can pick up a few year old CPO A6 or 5 series for cheap....
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
I have an old as FUCK A6 from like '03, or '04, have never h...
aqua cracking double fault wrinkle
  10/17/17
BMW isn't the paragon of reliability either. Source:my own ...
Umber brunch
  10/17/17
lol @ striverfags buying overpriced junk
nudist incel
  10/17/17
...
Cerebral topaz location dog poop
  10/17/17
2-3 year old luxury cars aren't actually overpriced
Very tactful pale dysfunction degenerate
  10/17/17
This. $28k for a 2 year old A6 with 4 years remaining of war...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
you will eat that in repair costs after the warraty is gone ...
maniacal point
  10/17/17
stfu you gook
Out-of-control lodge hunting ground
  10/17/17
All cars depreciate. I'll trade it in in 4 years for another...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
whats teh point of buying then? why not just lease
maniacal point
  10/17/17
Depends on how much you drive and whether you want to deal w...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
bequeath to heirs
Cerebral topaz location dog poop
  10/17/17
Leaving an A6 or 5 series is expensive as fuck. Figure $700/...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
those #s seem high but ill take your word for it buying a...
maniacal point
  10/17/17
A base 5 series is advertised at $540/month including a $350...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
except lots of people run those leases through their busines...
diverse state boiling water
  10/17/17
Unfortunately, I don't own a business
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
sad!
diverse state boiling water
  10/17/17
crrrrr
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/17/17
i never thought i'd be a lease guy, but the tax savings chan...
diverse state boiling water
  10/17/17
...
Bateful Party Of The First Part
  10/17/17
How the fuck you gonna haul your boat around with that shitb...
nudist incel
  10/17/17
I own a big BOF SUV for that purpose
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
lol at these yuppie mobiles
Cerebral topaz location dog poop
  10/17/17
theyre both shit, but audi is worse
maniacal point
  10/17/17
just buy a goddamn subaru outback
Claret pozpig
  10/17/17
I've driven all the current Subarus. God awful NVH.
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
Mercedes and Porsche are both better. With Porsche however,...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
aren't you a prole with some shitty jeep?
Garnet floppy gay wizard hairy legs
  10/17/17
Sure. But my Jeep costs more than a bunch of Audis, Mercede...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
good choice IMO
Cerebral topaz location dog poop
  10/17/17
Which choice? The current JGC or the Mercedes AMG?
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
latter
Cerebral topaz location dog poop
  10/17/17
It is just an evolution of the former. It will be either a ...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
lol your wife and dog are going to starve with you spending ...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/17/17
I'm not doing it so people think I'm cool. I'm going to fre...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
amgs are a prescription for guaranteed pain if you aren't g...
mint shivering trust fund bawdyhouse
  10/17/17
Getting it used so I take advantage of the depreciation.
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
I generally am against the "zomg german car maintenance...
Out-of-control lodge hunting ground
  10/17/17
Explain.
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
AMG parts, e.g. - brakes and shit cost like 2-3x what normal...
Out-of-control lodge hunting ground
  10/17/17
I checked on ebay and there are plenty of perfectly reasonab...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
It's probably somewhat year/model specific. Maybe get a cons...
Passionate Cobalt Stock Car Office
  10/17/17
never had major issues with BMW's except that the convertibl...
Out-of-control lodge hunting ground
  10/17/17
(poor prole who wants flash of luxury car but cant afford it...
flushed fluffy address stain
  10/17/17
(guy who is about to note that OP should just buy a minivan ...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
(drooling moron)
Cerebral topaz location dog poop
  10/17/17
Every single one of these threads ends up with some guy walt...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
Lexus, actually Though some base or near-base midsize Ge...
flushed fluffy address stain
  10/17/17
Actually, I don't want flash at all. It's just that mid leve...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
Don't buy a used 5 Series. My boomer parents got one for ...
Bateful Party Of The First Part
  10/17/17
$1000/yr is doing better than average
Umber brunch
  10/17/17
doesn't seem right
Cerebral topaz location dog poop
  10/17/17
Older 5 series like the E60 I believe we're pretty unreliabl...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
excluding things like oil changes, brakes pads/rotors, tires...
Aggressive arrogant legal warrant parlor
  10/17/17
CapTTTainFalcon pls respond!
Aggressive arrogant legal warrant parlor
  10/19/17
Tbf, I do all my own maintenance on my current cars. I.e. Pa...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
A lot of that stuff is also perfectly fine to do at normal s...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
I do that stuff myself mostly because it forces me to get to...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
ITT proles who buy "used" cars. ljl at you penny p...
slate library deer antler
  10/17/17
To me, it's the proles who spend waste their money on a $60k...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
The aftermarket warranties that you can negotiate be include...
Rose jewess stage
  10/18/17
Chad: big ass 4x4 truck, big dog in back of truck with tongu...
nudist incel
  10/17/17
It really is model specific, each brand has ones with a mino...
Ruddy place of business national
  10/17/17
Apparently the new model 5 series from this past year is a d...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/17/17
I drove both the 540i and the E Class. The BMW is much bette...
diverse state boiling water
  10/17/17
already planning on getting rid of the m240?
Very tactful pale dysfunction degenerate
  10/17/17
its a lot of fun, but uses a lot of gas - and I don't get to...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/17/17
fuck it man. If you're not driving it that much then who car...
Very tactful pale dysfunction degenerate
  10/17/17
tcq
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
TCR. Earl is retarded about cars.
irate turquoise station giraffe
  10/17/17
it's also not very comfortable driving for over an hour or s...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/17/17
Don't the n20 engines have major timing chain issues? I know...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
edit NM
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/17/17
Might as well get the 540i, no? Not much more expensive.
diverse state boiling water
  10/17/17
Pretty sure I told u this shit when u talked about this car ...
maniacal point
  10/17/17
i fit in the car fine. lots of space in the front seat and l...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/19/17
So you got a small, super fast car you didn't really need an...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
i.e., the 540i...
diverse state boiling water
  10/17/17
Yep.
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
gas mileage is much worse, and what is the advantage? a lit...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/19/17
You barely drive and make plenty of cash. Who cares about t...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/19/17
should I get the 6 cylinder subaru outback too for the other...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/19/17
$7k is nbd, especially for you. I've never regretted gettin...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/19/17
assume one kid and a dog and we take it biking and skiing/sn...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/19/17
Outback seems like a perfectly reasonable choice.
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/19/17
but no sense in getting the 6 for the outback.
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/19/17
I always get a big engine. Small engines suck.
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/19/17
also remember that I am leasing whichever car is more expens...
hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison
  10/19/17
Look, for me it wouldn't be but if you don't care then sure,...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/19/17
$5300
diverse state boiling water
  10/19/17
both are sps
curious translucent indian lodge feces
  10/17/17
Other suggestions? CTS (super cheap CPO)? GS350 (considerabl...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
dont you have like 300k in student loan debt? if that's you...
curious translucent indian lodge feces
  10/17/17
90k with dreams of PSLF in 2 years. Bigfed with low COL in f...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
oh ok I was thinking of someone else. yeah lexus much more ...
curious translucent indian lodge feces
  10/17/17
Yeah, I'd get like an F-150 Raptor or something if I were in...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
Looked into the raptor. It's a hell of a truck but new is ex...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
Maintenence is far less though and reliability will be much ...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
Not so sure on reliability. Not a huge fan of turbo engines ...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/17/17
Everything is turbo these days, but I totally agree with you...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/17/17
Turbos are SPS unless on a diesel. None of these new tu...
twinkling pit laser beams
  10/18/17
Does Audi still make a manual paired with their 3.0 SC?
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/18/17
The 3.0 is now turbo instead of SC. And bolted to a 8 speed...
Umber brunch
  10/19/17
TDs break too. I'm fine with the new auto trannies. ...
anal rusted queen of the night
  10/18/17
My Audis have been reliable
brindle irradiated hominid becky
  10/18/17
Good insight. Seems later model audis are fairly reliable. I...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/18/17
Did you consider the 535i when you bought your A6?
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/18/17
Two follow up questions
Aggressive arrogant legal warrant parlor
  10/19/17
I've had three BMWs and never had anything seriously go wron...
pink mind-boggling theatre indirect expression
  10/18/17
how many miles did you own each for? I keep my cars for abou...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/18/17
First one about 80k, second one about 60k, third one is new.
pink mind-boggling theatre indirect expression
  10/19/17
faGGOT Yuppies die die die
Amber odious hall coffee pot
  10/19/17
Anyone drive the new CTS? It's a fucking steal to buy a 2015...
misanthropic keepsake machete
  10/19/17


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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

You can pick up a few year old CPO A6 or 5 series for cheap. I know audis of the past have been unreliable POS but has that improved? Looking at 2015-2016 MY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462140)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: aqua cracking double fault wrinkle

I have an old as FUCK A6 from like '03, or '04, have never had any serious issues with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462149)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:31 AM
Author: Umber brunch

BMW isn't the paragon of reliability either.

Source:my own bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462160)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: nudist incel

lol @ striverfags buying overpriced junk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462197)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: Cerebral topaz location dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462202)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: Very tactful pale dysfunction degenerate

2-3 year old luxury cars aren't actually overpriced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462285)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

This. $28k for a 2 year old A6 with 4 years remaining of warranty sounds like a good deal to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462409)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: maniacal point

you will eat that in repair costs after the warraty is gone brother, and the car value will plummet even more every year so you wont b eable to get rid ofit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462413)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Out-of-control lodge hunting ground

stfu you gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462429)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

All cars depreciate. I'll trade it in in 4 years for another CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462431)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:00 PM
Author: maniacal point

whats teh point of buying then? why not just lease

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462437)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:02 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Depends on how much you drive and whether you want to deal with the hassles that come with leasing.

I will say that buying used and trading for used tends to work out cheaper than leasing new and trading for new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462457)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: Cerebral topaz location dog poop

bequeath to heirs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462481)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Leaving an A6 or 5 series is expensive as fuck. Figure $700/month once you factor in taxes and fees. Their advertised leases include huge required down payments. Over 4 years you'd spend over $30k on lease payments and have zero to show for it. After 4 years of ownership of a purchased CPO, you would probably save at least 10k, factoring in the value of the car at trade in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462499)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: maniacal point

those #s seem high but ill take your word for it

buying an old Audi seems like a terrible financial decision but w/e floats ur boat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462509)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:11 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

A base 5 series is advertised at $540/month including a $3500 down payment and not including any taxes or additional fees. Easily $700/month with zero down and including taxes and fees.

If you're owning an older BMW covered by a pretty decent factor warranty, how much risk is there? You're picking up a basically new car with less than 30k miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462529)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:20 PM
Author: diverse state boiling water

except lots of people run those leases through their businesses resulting in huge tax savings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462584)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Unfortunately, I don't own a business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462600)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: diverse state boiling water

sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462615)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

crrrrr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462637)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: diverse state boiling water

i never thought i'd be a lease guy, but the tax savings change the calculus entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462667)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: Bateful Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462520)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: nudist incel

How the fuck you gonna haul your boat around with that shitbox car, striverfag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462596)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

I own a big BOF SUV for that purpose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462625)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: Cerebral topaz location dog poop

lol at these yuppie mobiles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462203)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: maniacal point

theyre both shit, but audi is worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462209)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: Claret pozpig

just buy a goddamn subaru outback

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462229)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

I've driven all the current Subarus. God awful NVH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462415)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:40 AM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Mercedes and Porsche are both better. With Porsche however, when stuff goes wrong it costs an arm and a leg.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462260)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: Garnet floppy gay wizard hairy legs

aren't you a prole with some shitty jeep?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462265)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Sure. But my Jeep costs more than a bunch of Audis, Mercedes, BMWs, etc.

Probably getting a Mercedes AMG next.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462418)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: Cerebral topaz location dog poop

good choice IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462484)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Which choice? The current JGC or the Mercedes AMG?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462489)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: Cerebral topaz location dog poop

latter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462492)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

It is just an evolution of the former. It will be either a GLE 63 AMG or a GLC 63 AMG... Either way, it'll be fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462504)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

lol your wife and dog are going to starve with you spending $100K on a car. Move to LA already if you are going to waste that much on a car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462641)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

I'm not doing it so people think I'm cool. I'm going to freakin' debadge the thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34467664)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: mint shivering trust fund bawdyhouse

amgs are a prescription for guaranteed pain

if you aren't getting fucked by depreciation, you're getting fucked by repair bills

usually, both

buy a used one, hope it's a good one, and at least you'll minimize the fucking



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462906)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Getting it used so I take advantage of the depreciation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34467668)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Out-of-control lodge hunting ground

I generally am against the "zomg german car maintenance!!1" flame that gets run here, but don't fucking buy an AMG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462662)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463205)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: Out-of-control lodge hunting ground

AMG parts, e.g. - brakes and shit cost like 2-3x what normal MB parts cost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463630)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

I checked on ebay and there are plenty of perfectly reasonably priced shit on brakes and such. Cheaper than Porsche, for example (one thing that scared me off the Macan Turbo).

Compared to the performance parts I buy for my Jeep it is largely the same stuff anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463663)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: Passionate Cobalt Stock Car Office

It's probably somewhat year/model specific. Maybe get a consumer reports subscription where you can actually see reliability by year/model and specific car component.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462275)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: Out-of-control lodge hunting ground

never had major issues with BMW's except that the convertible top was sps but that was before they switched to hard tops anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462419)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: flushed fluffy address stain

(poor prole who wants flash of luxury car but cant afford it so has to buy cpo and cares about reliability)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462446)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:03 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

(guy who is about to note that OP should just buy a minivan or some POS cheap car like the one he drives)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462470)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: Cerebral topaz location dog poop

(drooling moron)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462491)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Every single one of these threads ends up with some guy waltzing in and declaring that if you can't afford to easily buy a new Ferrari with cash that you're a poor prole who should just buy [whatever piece of shit they're driving].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462517)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: flushed fluffy address stain

Lexus, actually

Though some base or near-base midsize German car from a few years ago would still get gaped off the line by a Camry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464112)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:17 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Actually, I don't want flash at all. It's just that mid level class German cars drive so much better at highway speeds and are so much more comfortable than a comparable Camry or accord.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462563)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:09 PM
Author: Bateful Party Of The First Part

Don't buy a used 5 Series.

My boomer parents got one for 30,000, and in the past ten years they've spent over 10,000 on maintenance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462515)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: Umber brunch

$1000/yr is doing better than average

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462522)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Cerebral topaz location dog poop

doesn't seem right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462959)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Older 5 series like the E60 I believe we're pretty unreliable. The F10 seems more reliable, although that probably depends if you get it in poverty spec with less to go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462651)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: Aggressive arrogant legal warrant parlor

excluding things like oil changes, brakes pads/rotors, tires, basic maintenance etc. what has that 10,000 been spent on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464163)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:22 PM
Author: Aggressive arrogant legal warrant parlor

CapTTTainFalcon pls respond!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479559)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Tbf, I do all my own maintenance on my current cars. I.e. Pads, rotors, fluid changes, oil, tire rotation, filters, minor repairs like sensors. I say this that if you don't do your own DIY maintenance and minor repairs, I'm not sure it would be wise to own a German car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462548)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

A lot of that stuff is also perfectly fine to do at normal shops. You get eaten alive if you do it at the dealership, so don't do that. Sure, the dealership will tell you that you couldn't possibly get new tires at Walmart but they're fucking liars and tires are tires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462553)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:21 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

I do that stuff myself mostly because it forces me to get to know how the car is put together, I can be certain it's done correctly within the factory service manual specs, and it's just plain enjoyable to work on cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462587)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: slate library deer antler

ITT proles who buy "used" cars. ljl at you penny pinching soccor moms. Remember, Chad buys new xoxohth...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462576)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

To me, it's the proles who spend waste their money on a $60k+ car when one can be had for half that in nearly the same condition and with plenty of Warranty remaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462595)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:34 PM
Author: Rose jewess stage

The aftermarket warranties that you can negotiate be included on CPO cars (since they are 90% margin) are 180 and way better than factory warranties too.

My friend bought a CPO Mercedes that was under a year old with a 5yr unlimited-mileage warranty thrown in. The car has been in the shop so many times before it was even 2 years old that the warranty has paid off big time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473882)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: nudist incel

Chad: big ass 4x4 truck, big dog in back of truck with tongue hanging out, big boat, chicks in bikinis on said boat drinking canned prole juice and rumchatta, camp fires on the beach snuggled up with Stacy while strumming guitar.

Striverfag: student loan debt, no truck, no boat, lives in studio apartment, no yard so no big dog, drives tiny shitbox "foreign" car that was manufactured in South Carolina, drives with "Titan" the Shitzu dog in front seat, no gf but regularly listens to Stacy getting railed next door while trying to get some sleep for shit corporate job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462675)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: Ruddy place of business national

It really is model specific, each brand has ones with a minor thing here or there. Generally, nearly every car these days is far more reliable than even 10 years ago. Also, with some models and packages you're buying a car with a ton of power and technology, don't expect that to necessarily be perfect, there are tradeoffs. A 550HP M6 or M5 requires two car batteries, and was designed to deplete them so they could eek out an EPA number (alternator doesn't draw enough to keep them fully charged over time); so there is an extremely expensive battery change bill to expect with those cars as they require 'coding' (((GC))) for each battery. If you don't want that, get a Camry.

As for BMW vs. Audi; if you need AWD, get an Audi with the real Quattro system (not Haldex) and if possible the sport differential. I have an S4 w/ 400whp and no issues at $34k miles; bought it used with 10k and tuned/pully'd from nearly day 1.

If you prefer RWD, BMWs are perfectly fine. I personally like the Audi RS7 and any of BMW's "Grand Touring" 4-door coupes; you can get a 4-door M6 used for ~60k w/ low miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462714)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

Apparently the new model 5 series from this past year is a decent improvement and better than the mercedes E class.

My next car will probably be a sad 4 cylinder 5 series. Or an outback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462815)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: diverse state boiling water

I drove both the 540i and the E Class. The BMW is much better, and this is from someone who generally prefers Mercedes.

The design of the new 5 series is gorgeous too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462832)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: Very tactful pale dysfunction degenerate

already planning on getting rid of the m240?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462838)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

its a lot of fun, but uses a lot of gas - and I don't get to drive fast very often. I put on so few miles (under 5000 per year) that I should probably buy out the lease and sell it rather than turn it back in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463231)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:00 PM
Author: Very tactful pale dysfunction degenerate

fuck it man. If you're not driving it that much then who cares about mpgs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463235)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

tcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463241)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: irate turquoise station giraffe

TCR. Earl is retarded about cars.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463278)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:09 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

it's also not very comfortable driving for over an hour or so.

It's fun and it accelerates well, but I am wondering if I would not have an overall better experience in a much bigger 530i which is cheaper, more fuel efficient, and can go fast enough even with the turbo 4, for 99% of the driving I do with the m240.

Also I share my car with my wife sometimes and she does not drive fast at all, wasting the 240.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463298)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:13 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Don't the n20 engines have major timing chain issues? I know they've moved to the n46 but not sure if the same issue exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463328)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:16 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

edit NM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463354)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: diverse state boiling water

Might as well get the 540i, no? Not much more expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463519)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: maniacal point

Pretty sure I told u this shit when u talked about this car

U are a tall dood, lol at being comfy in a ducking 2 series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463692)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

i fit in the car fine. lots of space in the front seat and lots of headroom (more than the mercedes C class).

The problem is that the seats are so close to the ground that you legs stick out straight more than bend. This is uncomfortable for the ass and hips at any height. Same deal for my wife who is pretty short.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479457)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:02 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

So you got a small, super fast car you didn't really need and now are going to sell it, wasting money? WTF?

Get a decent all arounder - something comfortable enough, fast enough, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463723)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: diverse state boiling water

i.e., the 540i...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463733)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:04 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Yep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463737)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

gas mileage is much worse, and what is the advantage? a little extra push on the freeway onramp if there is no traffic? Both 530i and 540i can go 100 mph with no problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479446)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

You barely drive and make plenty of cash. Who cares about the freakin' gas mileage? Eat the cost and have a car with enough power that you won't miss the M series 99% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479537)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

should I get the 6 cylinder subaru outback too for the other car?

Isn't the 540 like $7,000 more than the 530. Seems like a lot of money for a little.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479553)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

$7k is nbd, especially for you. I've never regretted getting the more powerful engine. Seems better than paying a bunch for a car that's inadequate. Pay the money, maintain the car, keep it for a long time and enjoy.

For the other car that depends on a bunch of variables, including whether you are having kids, how you'll use it, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479565)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

assume one kid and a dog and we take it biking and skiing/snowboarding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479572)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Outback seems like a perfectly reasonable choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479598)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:28 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

but no sense in getting the 6 for the outback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479605)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:29 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

I always get a big engine. Small engines suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479616)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: hyperventilating sticky twinkling uncleanness garrison

also remember that I am leasing whichever car is more expensive. 35% tax write off >>> any other consideration as to savings by buying slightly used or whatever.

If I am only keeping a car 3 years and am a commute-pig, how is a reasonably quick turbo 4 inadequate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479587)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Look, for me it wouldn't be but if you don't care then sure, get a small engine car. I don't really understand that, but then again, you're not me. I also drive like a madman and just got a new Uniden R3 radar detector. You probably drive 5 over the speed limit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479640)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:25 PM
Author: diverse state boiling water

$5300

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479578)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: curious translucent indian lodge feces

both are sps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462835)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Other suggestions? CTS (super cheap CPO)? GS350 (considerably more expensive? E350?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463277)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:19 PM
Author: curious translucent indian lodge feces

dont you have like 300k in student loan debt? if that's you, a toyota corolla/camry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463365)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:21 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

90k with dreams of PSLF in 2 years. Bigfed with low COL in flyover country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463377)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: curious translucent indian lodge feces

oh ok I was thinking of someone else. yeah lexus much more reliable and cheaper to maintain than audi or bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463400)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Yeah, I'd get like an F-150 Raptor or something if I were in your shoes. That doesn't sound like a smart setup for a German luxury car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463562)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Looked into the raptor. It's a hell of a truck but new is expensive as fuck (twice what I would pay for a CPO luxury car) and since they don't depreciate at all, makes zero sense buying used.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463975)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Maintenence is far less though and reliability will be much better. And you'll get more respect in middle America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463988)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Not so sure on reliability. Not a huge fan of turbo engines stressed to put out tons of HP. Liked the raptor better when it ran a 6.2l. Plus the Ford warranty is shitty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464008)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

Everything is turbo these days, but I totally agree with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464122)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 1:33 AM
Author: twinkling pit laser beams

Turbos are SPS unless on a diesel.

None of these new turboed cars is going to last for shit without major repair bills. Between direct injection and turbos they are all ticking maintence bombs.

What’s left that is not direct injection and/or turbo? And rule out any CVTs or dual clutch or too many speed autos. Whatever it is, but that. Manual trans and nornally aspirated, normal injection (superchargers are ok though).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34468414)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Does Audi still make a manual paired with their 3.0 SC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470053)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Umber brunch

The 3.0 is now turbo instead of SC. And bolted to a 8 speed auto.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476874)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:49 AM
Author: anal rusted queen of the night

TDs break too.

I'm fine with the new auto trannies.

But yeah, there are basically no cars fitting your description anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470367)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: brindle irradiated hominid becky
Subject: My Audis have been reliable

I've owned two new A6 Audis - a 2001 2.7T that I kept for 11 years because I liked it so much, and a 2013 A6 3.0T. I had only very minor problems with the 2.7. The 3.0 has been totally trouble free for 5 years, and is without a doubt the finest car I've ever owned. I also have a 2012 BMW 335i convertible I bought used two years ago. It stays at my winter place and doesn't get used much. It had some initial issues with oil leaks, but other than that it has been fine. Before the 2.7T I had a Mercedes E320 purchased new. It had a lot of problems over the 5 years I owned it, and kind of soured me on the M-B brand. The least reliable cars I've ever owned were a Chrysler Concorde and a VW van. Every high end car is a depreciation disaster. If you do buy an Audi, I recommend Audi Care. It's a prepaid maintenance program (not a warranty) that will save some serious $ over dealer prices. For example, the dealer price on the 55000 mile service was $1200, but the Audi Care price for both 55000 and 65000 was about $750.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470256)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Good insight. Seems later model audis are fairly reliable. I do all my own maintenance myself in accordance with the factory service manual so I really only care about repairs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34472815)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:49 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Did you consider the 535i when you bought your A6?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473570)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Aggressive arrogant legal warrant parlor
Subject: Two follow up questions

1) What was the cause of the oil leak issue with the 335i? Worn out gasket?

2) Even $750 for a 55,000 mile service seems steep. What exactly does that entail?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479571)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: pink mind-boggling theatre indirect expression

I've had three BMWs and never had anything seriously go wrong with any of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473584)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:55 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

how many miles did you own each for? I keep my cars for about 100K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473607)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:43 AM
Author: pink mind-boggling theatre indirect expression

First one about 80k, second one about 60k, third one is new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476858)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: Amber odious hall coffee pot

faGGOT Yuppies die die die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476871)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: misanthropic keepsake machete

Anyone drive the new CTS? It's a fucking steal to buy a 2015 CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479415)