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Audi vs bmw reliability?

You can pick up a few year old CPO A6 or 5 series for cheap....
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
I have an old as FUCK A6 from like '03, or '04, have never h...
submissive orchestra pit dingle berry
  10/17/17
BMW isn't the paragon of reliability either. Source:my own ...
arousing azure ticket booth
  10/17/17
lol @ striverfags buying overpriced junk
razzmatazz native
  10/17/17
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pink institution
  10/17/17
2-3 year old luxury cars aren't actually overpriced
exciting puppy stead
  10/17/17
This. $28k for a 2 year old A6 with 4 years remaining of war...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
you will eat that in repair costs after the warraty is gone ...
doobsian business firm
  10/17/17
stfu you gook
razzle cobalt jewess
  10/17/17
All cars depreciate. I'll trade it in in 4 years for another...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
whats teh point of buying then? why not just lease
doobsian business firm
  10/17/17
Depends on how much you drive and whether you want to deal w...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
bequeath to heirs
pink institution
  10/17/17
Leaving an A6 or 5 series is expensive as fuck. Figure $700/...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
those #s seem high but ill take your word for it buying a...
doobsian business firm
  10/17/17
A base 5 series is advertised at $540/month including a $350...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
except lots of people run those leases through their busines...
bistre crawly locus
  10/17/17
Unfortunately, I don't own a business
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
sad!
bistre crawly locus
  10/17/17
crrrrr
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/17/17
i never thought i'd be a lease guy, but the tax savings chan...
bistre crawly locus
  10/17/17
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Aqua trust fund
  10/17/17
How the fuck you gonna haul your boat around with that shitb...
razzmatazz native
  10/17/17
I own a big BOF SUV for that purpose
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
lol at these yuppie mobiles
pink institution
  10/17/17
theyre both shit, but audi is worse
doobsian business firm
  10/17/17
just buy a goddamn subaru outback
buck-toothed church building
  10/17/17
I've driven all the current Subarus. God awful NVH.
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
Mercedes and Porsche are both better. With Porsche however,...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
aren't you a prole with some shitty jeep?
twinkling dilemma
  10/17/17
Sure. But my Jeep costs more than a bunch of Audis, Mercede...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
good choice IMO
pink institution
  10/17/17
Which choice? The current JGC or the Mercedes AMG?
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
latter
pink institution
  10/17/17
It is just an evolution of the former. It will be either a ...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
lol your wife and dog are going to starve with you spending ...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/17/17
I'm not doing it so people think I'm cool. I'm going to fre...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
amgs are a prescription for guaranteed pain if you aren't g...
Chrome Adventurous Space
  10/17/17
Getting it used so I take advantage of the depreciation.
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
I generally am against the "zomg german car maintenance...
razzle cobalt jewess
  10/17/17
Explain.
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
AMG parts, e.g. - brakes and shit cost like 2-3x what normal...
razzle cobalt jewess
  10/17/17
I checked on ebay and there are plenty of perfectly reasonab...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
It's probably somewhat year/model specific. Maybe get a cons...
crusty very tactful rigor
  10/17/17
never had major issues with BMW's except that the convertibl...
razzle cobalt jewess
  10/17/17
(poor prole who wants flash of luxury car but cant afford it...
ruby bbw headpube
  10/17/17
(guy who is about to note that OP should just buy a minivan ...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
(drooling moron)
pink institution
  10/17/17
Every single one of these threads ends up with some guy walt...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
Lexus, actually Though some base or near-base midsize Ge...
ruby bbw headpube
  10/17/17
Actually, I don't want flash at all. It's just that mid leve...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
Don't buy a used 5 Series. My boomer parents got one for ...
Aqua trust fund
  10/17/17
$1000/yr is doing better than average
arousing azure ticket booth
  10/17/17
doesn't seem right
pink institution
  10/17/17
Older 5 series like the E60 I believe we're pretty unreliabl...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
excluding things like oil changes, brakes pads/rotors, tires...
Fuchsia contagious parlour selfie
  10/17/17
CapTTTainFalcon pls respond!
Fuchsia contagious parlour selfie
  10/19/17
Tbf, I do all my own maintenance on my current cars. I.e. Pa...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
A lot of that stuff is also perfectly fine to do at normal s...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
I do that stuff myself mostly because it forces me to get to...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
ITT proles who buy "used" cars. ljl at you penny p...
Floppy harsh generalized bond
  10/17/17
To me, it's the proles who spend waste their money on a $60k...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
The aftermarket warranties that you can negotiate be include...
vibrant blathering whorehouse
  10/18/17
Chad: big ass 4x4 truck, big dog in back of truck with tongu...
razzmatazz native
  10/17/17
It really is model specific, each brand has ones with a mino...
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  10/17/17
Apparently the new model 5 series from this past year is a d...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/17/17
I drove both the 540i and the E Class. The BMW is much bette...
bistre crawly locus
  10/17/17
already planning on getting rid of the m240?
exciting puppy stead
  10/17/17
its a lot of fun, but uses a lot of gas - and I don't get to...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/17/17
fuck it man. If you're not driving it that much then who car...
exciting puppy stead
  10/17/17
tcq
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
TCR. Earl is retarded about cars.
cerebral snowy trump supporter area
  10/17/17
it's also not very comfortable driving for over an hour or s...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/17/17
Don't the n20 engines have major timing chain issues? I know...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
edit NM
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/17/17
Might as well get the 540i, no? Not much more expensive.
bistre crawly locus
  10/17/17
Pretty sure I told u this shit when u talked about this car ...
doobsian business firm
  10/17/17
i fit in the car fine. lots of space in the front seat and l...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/19/17
So you got a small, super fast car you didn't really need an...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
i.e., the 540i...
bistre crawly locus
  10/17/17
Yep.
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
gas mileage is much worse, and what is the advantage? a lit...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/19/17
You barely drive and make plenty of cash. Who cares about t...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/19/17
should I get the 6 cylinder subaru outback too for the other...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/19/17
$7k is nbd, especially for you. I've never regretted gettin...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/19/17
assume one kid and a dog and we take it biking and skiing/sn...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/19/17
Outback seems like a perfectly reasonable choice.
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/19/17
but no sense in getting the 6 for the outback.
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/19/17
I always get a big engine. Small engines suck.
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/19/17
also remember that I am leasing whichever car is more expens...
Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard
  10/19/17
Look, for me it wouldn't be but if you don't care then sure,...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/19/17
$5300
bistre crawly locus
  10/19/17
both are sps
gaped demanding macaca
  10/17/17
Other suggestions? CTS (super cheap CPO)? GS350 (considerabl...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
dont you have like 300k in student loan debt? if that's you...
gaped demanding macaca
  10/17/17
90k with dreams of PSLF in 2 years. Bigfed with low COL in f...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
oh ok I was thinking of someone else. yeah lexus much more ...
gaped demanding macaca
  10/17/17
Yeah, I'd get like an F-150 Raptor or something if I were in...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
Looked into the raptor. It's a hell of a truck but new is ex...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
Maintenence is far less though and reliability will be much ...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
Not so sure on reliability. Not a huge fan of turbo engines ...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/17/17
Everything is turbo these days, but I totally agree with you...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/17/17
Turbos are SPS unless on a diesel. None of these new tu...
Bateful learning disabled house
  10/18/17
Does Audi still make a manual paired with their 3.0 SC?
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/18/17
The 3.0 is now turbo instead of SC. And bolted to a 8 speed...
arousing azure ticket booth
  10/19/17
TDs break too. I'm fine with the new auto trannies. ...
multi-colored base travel guidebook
  10/18/17
My Audis have been reliable
Grizzly fantasy-prone pistol hunting ground
  10/18/17
Good insight. Seems later model audis are fairly reliable. I...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/18/17
Did you consider the 535i when you bought your A6?
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/18/17
Two follow up questions
Fuchsia contagious parlour selfie
  10/19/17
I've had three BMWs and never had anything seriously go wron...
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  10/18/17
how many miles did you own each for? I keep my cars for abou...
Wonderful personal credit line
  10/18/17
First one about 80k, second one about 60k, third one is new.
Gold fiercely-loyal tanning salon
  10/19/17
faGGOT Yuppies die die die
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  10/19/17
Anyone drive the new CTS? It's a fucking steal to buy a 2015...
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  10/19/17


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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

You can pick up a few year old CPO A6 or 5 series for cheap. I know audis of the past have been unreliable POS but has that improved? Looking at 2015-2016 MY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462140)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: submissive orchestra pit dingle berry

I have an old as FUCK A6 from like '03, or '04, have never had any serious issues with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462149)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:31 AM
Author: arousing azure ticket booth

BMW isn't the paragon of reliability either.

Source:my own bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462160)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: razzmatazz native

lol @ striverfags buying overpriced junk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462197)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: pink institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462202)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: exciting puppy stead

2-3 year old luxury cars aren't actually overpriced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462285)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

This. $28k for a 2 year old A6 with 4 years remaining of warranty sounds like a good deal to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462409)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: doobsian business firm

you will eat that in repair costs after the warraty is gone brother, and the car value will plummet even more every year so you wont b eable to get rid ofit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462413)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: razzle cobalt jewess

stfu you gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462429)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

All cars depreciate. I'll trade it in in 4 years for another CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462431)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:00 PM
Author: doobsian business firm

whats teh point of buying then? why not just lease

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462437)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:02 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Depends on how much you drive and whether you want to deal with the hassles that come with leasing.

I will say that buying used and trading for used tends to work out cheaper than leasing new and trading for new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462457)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: pink institution

bequeath to heirs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462481)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Leaving an A6 or 5 series is expensive as fuck. Figure $700/month once you factor in taxes and fees. Their advertised leases include huge required down payments. Over 4 years you'd spend over $30k on lease payments and have zero to show for it. After 4 years of ownership of a purchased CPO, you would probably save at least 10k, factoring in the value of the car at trade in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462499)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: doobsian business firm

those #s seem high but ill take your word for it

buying an old Audi seems like a terrible financial decision but w/e floats ur boat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462509)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:11 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

A base 5 series is advertised at $540/month including a $3500 down payment and not including any taxes or additional fees. Easily $700/month with zero down and including taxes and fees.

If you're owning an older BMW covered by a pretty decent factor warranty, how much risk is there? You're picking up a basically new car with less than 30k miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462529)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:20 PM
Author: bistre crawly locus

except lots of people run those leases through their businesses resulting in huge tax savings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462584)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Unfortunately, I don't own a business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462600)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: bistre crawly locus

sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462615)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

crrrrr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462637)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: bistre crawly locus

i never thought i'd be a lease guy, but the tax savings change the calculus entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462667)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: Aqua trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462520)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz native

How the fuck you gonna haul your boat around with that shitbox car, striverfag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462596)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

I own a big BOF SUV for that purpose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462625)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: pink institution

lol at these yuppie mobiles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462203)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: doobsian business firm

theyre both shit, but audi is worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462209)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: buck-toothed church building

just buy a goddamn subaru outback

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462229)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

I've driven all the current Subarus. God awful NVH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462415)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:40 AM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Mercedes and Porsche are both better. With Porsche however, when stuff goes wrong it costs an arm and a leg.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462260)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: twinkling dilemma

aren't you a prole with some shitty jeep?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462265)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Sure. But my Jeep costs more than a bunch of Audis, Mercedes, BMWs, etc.

Probably getting a Mercedes AMG next.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462418)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: pink institution

good choice IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462484)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Which choice? The current JGC or the Mercedes AMG?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462489)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: pink institution

latter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462492)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

It is just an evolution of the former. It will be either a GLE 63 AMG or a GLC 63 AMG... Either way, it'll be fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462504)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

lol your wife and dog are going to starve with you spending $100K on a car. Move to LA already if you are going to waste that much on a car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462641)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

I'm not doing it so people think I'm cool. I'm going to freakin' debadge the thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34467664)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: Chrome Adventurous Space

amgs are a prescription for guaranteed pain

if you aren't getting fucked by depreciation, you're getting fucked by repair bills

usually, both

buy a used one, hope it's a good one, and at least you'll minimize the fucking



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462906)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Getting it used so I take advantage of the depreciation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34467668)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: razzle cobalt jewess

I generally am against the "zomg german car maintenance!!1" flame that gets run here, but don't fucking buy an AMG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462662)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463205)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: razzle cobalt jewess

AMG parts, e.g. - brakes and shit cost like 2-3x what normal MB parts cost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463630)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

I checked on ebay and there are plenty of perfectly reasonably priced shit on brakes and such. Cheaper than Porsche, for example (one thing that scared me off the Macan Turbo).

Compared to the performance parts I buy for my Jeep it is largely the same stuff anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463663)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: crusty very tactful rigor

It's probably somewhat year/model specific. Maybe get a consumer reports subscription where you can actually see reliability by year/model and specific car component.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462275)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: razzle cobalt jewess

never had major issues with BMW's except that the convertible top was sps but that was before they switched to hard tops anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462419)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: ruby bbw headpube

(poor prole who wants flash of luxury car but cant afford it so has to buy cpo and cares about reliability)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462446)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:03 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

(guy who is about to note that OP should just buy a minivan or some POS cheap car like the one he drives)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462470)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: pink institution

(drooling moron)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462491)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Every single one of these threads ends up with some guy waltzing in and declaring that if you can't afford to easily buy a new Ferrari with cash that you're a poor prole who should just buy [whatever piece of shit they're driving].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462517)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: ruby bbw headpube

Lexus, actually

Though some base or near-base midsize German car from a few years ago would still get gaped off the line by a Camry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464112)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:17 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Actually, I don't want flash at all. It's just that mid level class German cars drive so much better at highway speeds and are so much more comfortable than a comparable Camry or accord.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462563)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:09 PM
Author: Aqua trust fund

Don't buy a used 5 Series.

My boomer parents got one for 30,000, and in the past ten years they've spent over 10,000 on maintenance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462515)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: arousing azure ticket booth

$1000/yr is doing better than average

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462522)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: pink institution

doesn't seem right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462959)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Older 5 series like the E60 I believe we're pretty unreliable. The F10 seems more reliable, although that probably depends if you get it in poverty spec with less to go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462651)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: Fuchsia contagious parlour selfie

excluding things like oil changes, brakes pads/rotors, tires, basic maintenance etc. what has that 10,000 been spent on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464163)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:22 PM
Author: Fuchsia contagious parlour selfie

CapTTTainFalcon pls respond!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479559)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Tbf, I do all my own maintenance on my current cars. I.e. Pads, rotors, fluid changes, oil, tire rotation, filters, minor repairs like sensors. I say this that if you don't do your own DIY maintenance and minor repairs, I'm not sure it would be wise to own a German car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462548)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

A lot of that stuff is also perfectly fine to do at normal shops. You get eaten alive if you do it at the dealership, so don't do that. Sure, the dealership will tell you that you couldn't possibly get new tires at Walmart but they're fucking liars and tires are tires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462553)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:21 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

I do that stuff myself mostly because it forces me to get to know how the car is put together, I can be certain it's done correctly within the factory service manual specs, and it's just plain enjoyable to work on cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462587)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: Floppy harsh generalized bond

ITT proles who buy "used" cars. ljl at you penny pinching soccor moms. Remember, Chad buys new xoxohth...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462576)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

To me, it's the proles who spend waste their money on a $60k+ car when one can be had for half that in nearly the same condition and with plenty of Warranty remaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462595)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:34 PM
Author: vibrant blathering whorehouse

The aftermarket warranties that you can negotiate be included on CPO cars (since they are 90% margin) are 180 and way better than factory warranties too.

My friend bought a CPO Mercedes that was under a year old with a 5yr unlimited-mileage warranty thrown in. The car has been in the shop so many times before it was even 2 years old that the warranty has paid off big time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473882)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: razzmatazz native

Chad: big ass 4x4 truck, big dog in back of truck with tongue hanging out, big boat, chicks in bikinis on said boat drinking canned prole juice and rumchatta, camp fires on the beach snuggled up with Stacy while strumming guitar.

Striverfag: student loan debt, no truck, no boat, lives in studio apartment, no yard so no big dog, drives tiny shitbox "foreign" car that was manufactured in South Carolina, drives with "Titan" the Shitzu dog in front seat, no gf but regularly listens to Stacy getting railed next door while trying to get some sleep for shit corporate job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462675)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: aphrodisiac lime rehab

It really is model specific, each brand has ones with a minor thing here or there. Generally, nearly every car these days is far more reliable than even 10 years ago. Also, with some models and packages you're buying a car with a ton of power and technology, don't expect that to necessarily be perfect, there are tradeoffs. A 550HP M6 or M5 requires two car batteries, and was designed to deplete them so they could eek out an EPA number (alternator doesn't draw enough to keep them fully charged over time); so there is an extremely expensive battery change bill to expect with those cars as they require 'coding' (((GC))) for each battery. If you don't want that, get a Camry.

As for BMW vs. Audi; if you need AWD, get an Audi with the real Quattro system (not Haldex) and if possible the sport differential. I have an S4 w/ 400whp and no issues at $34k miles; bought it used with 10k and tuned/pully'd from nearly day 1.

If you prefer RWD, BMWs are perfectly fine. I personally like the Audi RS7 and any of BMW's "Grand Touring" 4-door coupes; you can get a 4-door M6 used for ~60k w/ low miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462714)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

Apparently the new model 5 series from this past year is a decent improvement and better than the mercedes E class.

My next car will probably be a sad 4 cylinder 5 series. Or an outback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462815)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: bistre crawly locus

I drove both the 540i and the E Class. The BMW is much better, and this is from someone who generally prefers Mercedes.

The design of the new 5 series is gorgeous too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462832)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: exciting puppy stead

already planning on getting rid of the m240?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462838)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

its a lot of fun, but uses a lot of gas - and I don't get to drive fast very often. I put on so few miles (under 5000 per year) that I should probably buy out the lease and sell it rather than turn it back in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463231)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:00 PM
Author: exciting puppy stead

fuck it man. If you're not driving it that much then who cares about mpgs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463235)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

tcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463241)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: cerebral snowy trump supporter area

TCR. Earl is retarded about cars.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463278)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:09 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

it's also not very comfortable driving for over an hour or so.

It's fun and it accelerates well, but I am wondering if I would not have an overall better experience in a much bigger 530i which is cheaper, more fuel efficient, and can go fast enough even with the turbo 4, for 99% of the driving I do with the m240.

Also I share my car with my wife sometimes and she does not drive fast at all, wasting the 240.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463298)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:13 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Don't the n20 engines have major timing chain issues? I know they've moved to the n46 but not sure if the same issue exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463328)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:16 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

edit NM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463354)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: bistre crawly locus

Might as well get the 540i, no? Not much more expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463519)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: doobsian business firm

Pretty sure I told u this shit when u talked about this car

U are a tall dood, lol at being comfy in a ducking 2 series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463692)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

i fit in the car fine. lots of space in the front seat and lots of headroom (more than the mercedes C class).

The problem is that the seats are so close to the ground that you legs stick out straight more than bend. This is uncomfortable for the ass and hips at any height. Same deal for my wife who is pretty short.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479457)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:02 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

So you got a small, super fast car you didn't really need and now are going to sell it, wasting money? WTF?

Get a decent all arounder - something comfortable enough, fast enough, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463723)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: bistre crawly locus

i.e., the 540i...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463733)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:04 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Yep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463737)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

gas mileage is much worse, and what is the advantage? a little extra push on the freeway onramp if there is no traffic? Both 530i and 540i can go 100 mph with no problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479446)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

You barely drive and make plenty of cash. Who cares about the freakin' gas mileage? Eat the cost and have a car with enough power that you won't miss the M series 99% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479537)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

should I get the 6 cylinder subaru outback too for the other car?

Isn't the 540 like $7,000 more than the 530. Seems like a lot of money for a little.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479553)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

$7k is nbd, especially for you. I've never regretted getting the more powerful engine. Seems better than paying a bunch for a car that's inadequate. Pay the money, maintain the car, keep it for a long time and enjoy.

For the other car that depends on a bunch of variables, including whether you are having kids, how you'll use it, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479565)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

assume one kid and a dog and we take it biking and skiing/snowboarding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479572)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Outback seems like a perfectly reasonable choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479598)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:28 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

but no sense in getting the 6 for the outback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479605)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:29 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

I always get a big engine. Small engines suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479616)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: Insanely creepy glittery sneaky criminal haunted graveyard

also remember that I am leasing whichever car is more expensive. 35% tax write off >>> any other consideration as to savings by buying slightly used or whatever.

If I am only keeping a car 3 years and am a commute-pig, how is a reasonably quick turbo 4 inadequate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479587)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Look, for me it wouldn't be but if you don't care then sure, get a small engine car. I don't really understand that, but then again, you're not me. I also drive like a madman and just got a new Uniden R3 radar detector. You probably drive 5 over the speed limit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479640)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:25 PM
Author: bistre crawly locus

$5300

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479578)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: gaped demanding macaca

both are sps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462835)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Other suggestions? CTS (super cheap CPO)? GS350 (considerably more expensive? E350?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463277)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:19 PM
Author: gaped demanding macaca

dont you have like 300k in student loan debt? if that's you, a toyota corolla/camry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463365)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:21 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

90k with dreams of PSLF in 2 years. Bigfed with low COL in flyover country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463377)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: gaped demanding macaca

oh ok I was thinking of someone else. yeah lexus much more reliable and cheaper to maintain than audi or bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463400)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Yeah, I'd get like an F-150 Raptor or something if I were in your shoes. That doesn't sound like a smart setup for a German luxury car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463562)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Looked into the raptor. It's a hell of a truck but new is expensive as fuck (twice what I would pay for a CPO luxury car) and since they don't depreciate at all, makes zero sense buying used.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463975)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Maintenence is far less though and reliability will be much better. And you'll get more respect in middle America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463988)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Not so sure on reliability. Not a huge fan of turbo engines stressed to put out tons of HP. Liked the raptor better when it ran a 6.2l. Plus the Ford warranty is shitty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464008)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

Everything is turbo these days, but I totally agree with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464122)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 1:33 AM
Author: Bateful learning disabled house

Turbos are SPS unless on a diesel.

None of these new turboed cars is going to last for shit without major repair bills. Between direct injection and turbos they are all ticking maintence bombs.

What’s left that is not direct injection and/or turbo? And rule out any CVTs or dual clutch or too many speed autos. Whatever it is, but that. Manual trans and nornally aspirated, normal injection (superchargers are ok though).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34468414)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Does Audi still make a manual paired with their 3.0 SC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470053)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: arousing azure ticket booth

The 3.0 is now turbo instead of SC. And bolted to a 8 speed auto.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476874)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:49 AM
Author: multi-colored base travel guidebook

TDs break too.

I'm fine with the new auto trannies.

But yeah, there are basically no cars fitting your description anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470367)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: Grizzly fantasy-prone pistol hunting ground
Subject: My Audis have been reliable

I've owned two new A6 Audis - a 2001 2.7T that I kept for 11 years because I liked it so much, and a 2013 A6 3.0T. I had only very minor problems with the 2.7. The 3.0 has been totally trouble free for 5 years, and is without a doubt the finest car I've ever owned. I also have a 2012 BMW 335i convertible I bought used two years ago. It stays at my winter place and doesn't get used much. It had some initial issues with oil leaks, but other than that it has been fine. Before the 2.7T I had a Mercedes E320 purchased new. It had a lot of problems over the 5 years I owned it, and kind of soured me on the M-B brand. The least reliable cars I've ever owned were a Chrysler Concorde and a VW van. Every high end car is a depreciation disaster. If you do buy an Audi, I recommend Audi Care. It's a prepaid maintenance program (not a warranty) that will save some serious $ over dealer prices. For example, the dealer price on the 55000 mile service was $1200, but the Audi Care price for both 55000 and 65000 was about $750.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470256)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Good insight. Seems later model audis are fairly reliable. I do all my own maintenance myself in accordance with the factory service manual so I really only care about repairs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34472815)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:49 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Did you consider the 535i when you bought your A6?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473570)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Fuchsia contagious parlour selfie
Subject: Two follow up questions

1) What was the cause of the oil leak issue with the 335i? Worn out gasket?

2) Even $750 for a 55,000 mile service seems steep. What exactly does that entail?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479571)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: Gold fiercely-loyal tanning salon

I've had three BMWs and never had anything seriously go wrong with any of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473584)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:55 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

how many miles did you own each for? I keep my cars for about 100K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473607)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:43 AM
Author: Gold fiercely-loyal tanning salon

First one about 80k, second one about 60k, third one is new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476858)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: charcoal state famous landscape painting

faGGOT Yuppies die die die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476871)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: Wonderful personal credit line

Anyone drive the new CTS? It's a fucking steal to buy a 2015 CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479415)