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so I test drove the X5, the Cayenne, the XC90, the GX460, and GLE350
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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:17 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib I bought the Benz. taking Qs/abuse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34462910) |
Date: October 17th, 2017 1:38 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34463067) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:39 PM Author: Laughsome queen of the night tanning salon Is that the former GLK or is it upsized version? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34463078) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:40 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib The new one. I bought a 2016 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34463090) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:14 PM Author: know-it-all learning disabled hospital It used to be the ML class but Mercedes changed it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34463334) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:20 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib yeah this. it's their mid size one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464392) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:22 PM Author: Hairless center Did you go to a friends house with your wife and baby to watch a game and just stand the entire time? Did you go to Baylor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464405) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:22 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib no, I went to Darnell's house. it was time to clean the bull's asshole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464409) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:24 PM Author: Hairless center An acquaintance bought that car and it is sick af. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464418) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:34 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib YNY I'm happy with it, drove it to a site today. lucky I didn't get pulled over given how fast I was going lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464490) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:23 PM Author: salmon sanctuary Cayenne pwns all so explain your decision. I am guessing money or that you test drove a base model (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464414) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:29 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib yea the tax writeoff of the higher end Porsche didn't make sense due to limitations on how much you can write off up front. I'm buying it through my business. plus it seemed a little Bravo reality TV for me. pretty fun to drive though
the GX looked like a lesbaru backed into a trailer so fuck that. if I could have found a low mileage 470 I would have bought that immediately.
the XC90's interior was boring as fuck. almost as boring as driving it.
it came down to the X5 v. GLE 350 and I got a better deal on the 350, <10k miles, certified pre owned with a good warranty in place. I've also heard the X5 has SPS reliability problems.
I love the way it looks, interior makes me look like a successful coke dealer which I wanted, and in sport mode it sits very comfortably at 120mph on the highway. nice handling too, feels closer to a sedan instead of a huge ocean liner like a jeep grand cherokee.
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:50 PM Author: salmon sanctuary I like Mercedes SUVs. they look great especially from the front. Still prefer Cayenne though and the new Cayennes coming out (2018 MY) are significantly upgraded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464632) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:55 PM Author: wonderful locus Cayenne costs much more for similar features/performance. Also more expensive for service/parts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464687) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:58 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib this was the deciding factor against it. the cap is $25,000 (and it's actually more like 90% of that because it's based on miles driven with a log you have to produce if you get audited) so getting a $100k SUV isn't efficient (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464717) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:00 PM Author: wonderful locus GLE is a solid option. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464734) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:00 PM Author: salmon sanctuary There is a lot more advanced under the hood stuff in a Porsche than say a Volvo or MB. Not saying it justifies the entire premium but there is a reason Porsches pwn much higher capacity engine cars on and off the track
I have seen regular user videos on youtube were people take their SUVs off road and Cayenne handles things that other SUVs cant. all that comes with a price |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:03 PM Author: wonderful locus The Cayenne is a competent offroad SUV, but isn't better than either MB or Jeep (which use the same platform, btw).
On-road, you're better off with a well equipt MB than a bare-bones Porsche with a cheap engine. The cheap engines are just borrowed from the Audi/VW cars (the 3.0L being a great example). They are just cash cows for the company. |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:09 PM Author: salmon sanctuary of course you would be better off with a fully loaded MB than an entry level Porsche but that doesnt mean Porsches and MB have similar capabilities. You should be comparing similar models not an entry level Porsche with a fully loaded top end MB
If money is not an issue most ppl would buy the Cayenne. period |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:03 PM Author: know-it-all learning disabled hospital >advanced under the hood stuff
>the track
>off road
Hey look, it's a list of things that most SUV buyers don't give a flying shit about |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:04 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464767) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:06 PM Author: salmon sanctuary people do care about (1) as it could make the difference when you are driving fast. I am betting lot of soccer moms thank PDCC (porsche dynamic chassis control) every day
(2) that was for comparing cars not suvs
(3) some people do though you have a point |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:06 PM Author: wonderful locus Negative. Fast and good off road are the two top things I care about. Why the hell would you pay for a performance SUV if you didn't care about those things? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464787) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:08 PM Author: know-it-all learning disabled hospital >Why the hell would you pay for a performance SUV if you didn't care about those things?
Is that a rhetorical question? If not, the answer is that it's a status symbol for upper middle class suburbanites (or middle class suburbanites that are willing to take on the debt). |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:09 PM Author: wonderful locus No, that's why you buy the shitty base model. People who don't care about actual performance don't know the difference between a regular M and an AMG, even though one costs over twice what the other costs. Same for base Cayenne vs Turbo S. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464830) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: know-it-all learning disabled hospital Very few people buy the AMG models, and this is a discussion thread about regular luxury SUVs, not AMG models. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464866) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:31 AM Author: wonderful locus Those are not performance SUVs. And quite a few people buy performance SUVs (yes, a minority, but a minority of a large market). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470182) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:10 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib it's only a status symbol because of the tax shelter. it's also why they get away with charging as much as they do for them. dat bigcorporate subsidy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464832) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: thriller macaca The GX460 is the only quality SUV from that list. But you did buy the best of the worst. X5 has huge reliability issues and the cayenne is pathetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464429) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:33 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib yeah the 460 seemed nice but I hated how it looks and the interior. I had no idea the 460 and 470 looked completely different. the 470 is beautiful and the 460 is SPS
the Benz looks the best of the bunch I tried. |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:26 PM Author: sapphire stage You forgot the other MUC Mommy staple, the Range Rover Sport (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464439) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:31 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib doesn't meet the weight requirement bro. only the full daddy RR and I'm not blowing 80k+ for a max 45k write off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464476) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:04 PM Author: know-it-all learning disabled hospital >the full daddy RR
damn daddy |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:34 PM Author: mentally impaired sneaky criminal pisswyrm Good call (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464497) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:39 PM Author: Offensive den Lol nobody actually likes luxury suvs. Your stupid wife probably talked you into it, you probably would enjoy a luxury car or an American suv more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464532) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib (guy who files a 1040EZ in April) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464540) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: Offensive den Enjoy your 65k minivan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464553) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib I will bro, thanks.
better to buy an SUV than subsidize your $800/mo disability payment. |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:47 PM Author: Offensive den Explain how a car for the same price as theese strivers mobiles wouldn't have the same tax benefit?
Nobody in Europe GAF about suvs, they just shit these out without thought for dumbass soccer moms and rappers. |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:49 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib it's an old giveaway to the auto industry. ever noticed how these giant SUVs are driven by sugar babies or hotwives on the way to Darnell's house?
if the gross vehicle weight rating is over 6000 lbs, you can write off up to $25,000 of the price the first year, then depreciate the rest over the next 5 years. if you buy brand new, there's an extra $20,000 of bonus depreciation the first year.
if it's under 6000 lbs, you can write off $11,050 new and $3,000 used. |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: passionate orchestra pit I am retardedly conservative when it comes to my taxes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464556) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:45 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464589) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:54 PM Author: passionate orchestra pit Self-employed (which is horseshit, but technically true). Should form an LLC and take more deductions, pay myself a salary, etc. I just Schedule C and end up with like 3% of my income as expenses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464681) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:56 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib schedule C? wtf
you don't even have an s-corporation? lmao
dude. you're almost certainly going to get audited eventually anyway and it will be terrible and you might get pwned in the process. are you really going to keep giving the government free money you have every right to use productively? |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:05 PM Author: passionate orchestra pit I know. I need to get on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464775) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: wonderful locus GLE is about to get a redesign, FYI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464567) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:45 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib is it for the worse? it's usually for the worse. that Lexus really disappointed me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464593) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:47 PM Author: wonderful locus No idea. We won't know until it happens. It'll probably be lighter/more fuel efficient though, if you care about that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464605) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:50 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib this one is pretty good. I've been getting 21 MPG vs. like 12 in the JGC
the eco mode/brake charging thing is pretty good |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:53 PM Author: wonderful locus If you got the good AMG engine it would be just as bad. Weight is still essentially the same as the JGC and that will stay the same until the redesign. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464666) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:55 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib I don't remember which one this had. it's 310 hp and takes a second to whir up when I floor it, almost like a turbocharger
but like I said, it sits very comfortably at 120mph without misbehaving which feels great |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 4:58 PM Author: wonderful locus Sounds like the 3.5. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464708) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:07 PM Author: know-it-all learning disabled hospital >I've been getting 21 MPG vs. like 12 in the JGC
oh fuck you just pissed off TMF |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 5:12 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib lol I own a V8 JGC, 2014. it's got a shitload of torque and cool extras but I don't like how it feels to drive. personal preference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34464851) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: wonderful locus What tires do you have on it? Handling changed a ton (in a good way) after I put on Pirellis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34467932) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:43 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib Nah it’s the fact that it handles like a big ass truck. I have never liked driving trucks because they feel like aircraft carriers. The GLE handles much more like a car and I’m more comfortable with it. I was comfortable immediately when I started test driving it.
I wouldn’t think aftermarket tires would help with that, but then again I’m not much of a carmo so I don’t know shit. |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:54 PM Author: wonderful locus Tires have a huge impact. Also, if you had the 18" instead of the 20" wheels that would definitely contribute to your conclusion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34468035) |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib Oh I also forgot to add I test drove an Infiniti QX80. It was the worst piece of shit I’ve ever seen
Turning it was like watching a 600lb woman try to do Pilates. |
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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:51 PM Author: slate at-the-ready hall jew Every car the Nissan-Renault alliance makes is a massively compromised piece of shit except the Q50 which is "okay" in its segment. Everything else is compromised by shitty body-chassis tuning and really bad CVTs or automatics that are a decade out of date and tuned by retards. The underlying engines are okay but everything around the engines is an afterthought. How they manage to sell millions of car while vastly better manufacturers are stuck with 1/10th the market share is beyond me. The Sentra and the Altima aren't even in the 5 best in class but somehow outsell cars universally rated better in every test. It's nuts. And the Versa is literally a Lada. The fuck do people buy it for? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34468012) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 1:00 AM Author: adventurous sound barrier They are bigger and cheaper than competitors and look fancy so proles like them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34468353) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:27 AM Author: thriller macaca Keep in mind the qx80 is a Nissan patrol in EU/Middle East. It's a completely different vehicle class than "performance CUVs" which are nothing more than slightly lifted luxury vehicles. The Patrol is a direct competitor of the Land cruiser and is highly respected in the Middle East. I own a 2nd gen Japan built Armada which is the same as the Patrol/qx80 (not to be confused with the 1st gen Armada which was a completely different vehicle built in the US). The Armada/Patrol is massive (over 6000lbs) and is amazing off-road. I've taken it on trails that no sps cayenne would want to go. It's a 180 BOF truck as long as you understand its purpose. I also routinely take it on 8 hour road trips with the kids and it is extremely comfortable. It also tows like a beast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470145) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 1:05 AM Author: adventurous sound barrier This just shows how terrible new SUVs are.
Other than the G-Wagen, land cruiser (redesign is ugly however), and Range Rover they are all crap. And the ones I mentioned are insane money. I suppose the 4Runner and Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon/Escalade are not horrible. And don’t get me started on the Bentley and Maserati SUVs. Lol.
I would probably get a 4Runner pro if I needed an SUV even if it is ugly. Damn Lexus styling has infected Toyota. Can’t see spending $100k plus on a new G or RR. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:59 AM Author: wonderful locus What don't you like about them? Ignoring styling which is subjective. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34469902) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:36 AM Author: thriller macaca Unfortunately, you need to pony up big bucks if you want a nicely equipped BOF SUV. The exception is the T4R, but it is a lot smaller, interior wise, than the larger domestic and foreign (LC, patrol) BOF SUVs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470245) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:40 AM Author: Galvanic frozen property Tesla Model X was tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470283) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:40 AM Author: thriller macaca Ljl what's the point of that car? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470288) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:46 AM Author: wonderful locus If you want an all-electric with good performance, Autopilot, and enough space for people/things and good in snow it is a good option. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470343) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:50 AM Author: Galvanic frozen property They're nice cars, broski. And electric cars handle way better than gas. Since the weight is in battery packs, it's distributed more evenly and at a lower height. It's like driving a go cart. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470378) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:56 AM Author: thriller macaca Is the X supposed to be some sort of SUV? Ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470419) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 12:02 PM Author: Charismatic hissy fit party of the first part [wrong spot] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470481) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 12:01 PM Author: Charismatic hissy fit party of the first part The electric minivan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470472) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 12:05 PM Author: wonderful locus Except it has good performance and handling instead of being a shitty, boring family hauler. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470528) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 12:02 PM Author: Nubile Irradiated Genital Piercing Shitlib LJFL @ an oil man driving a Tesla (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766725&forum_id=2#34470487) |