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***MPM2017 ANNOUNCEMENT - RULE AND FORMAT CHANGES***

lawman8 sucks cock!
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  10/19/17
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burgundy comical resort jap
  12/08/21
*pulls fake silk shirts out of your ass*
Gay unholy forum
  10/19/17
180 can't wait
walnut doctorate
  10/19/17
I support #1
Bronze School Cafeteria Ceo
  10/19/17
kill urself faggot
maize insecure brunch idiot
  10/19/17
...
Laughsome box office hairy legs
  10/19/17
(all quarter finalists in their timed posts)
carmine soul-stirring market idea he suggested
  10/19/17
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Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/19/17
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  10/19/17
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maize insecure brunch idiot
  10/19/17
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shivering blathering location wrinkle
  10/19/17
"and convert any remaining doubters" lol, all you...
hideous parlor indirect expression
  10/19/17
This will be an unmitigated disaster
Laughsome box office hairy legs
  10/19/17
Rach is pro crypto
harsh locus
  10/19/17
"pro crypto" and "pro crypto spam on xo"...
Bronze School Cafeteria Ceo
  10/19/17
He wants to exclude some or all of trucker threading? Unacc...
hideous parlor indirect expression
  10/19/17
Cr
harsh locus
  10/19/17
Quality content somehow related to crypto is fine (Trucker t...
black twinkling uncleanness casino
  10/19/17
The last point is terrible. Stop ruining mpm
Bateful territorial piazza private investor
  10/19/17
will watchman exclude all poasters on his growing enemies “L...
Gay unholy forum
  10/19/17
Watchmen is serving in a very informal advisory role - he de...
black twinkling uncleanness casino
  10/19/17
Great changes, and I can't wait for the big announcement tom...
Emerald Area
  10/19/17
what is great about them?
hideous parlor indirect expression
  10/19/17
A long needed crackdown on alts/vote rigging. Low seeds f...
Emerald Area
  10/19/17
So will there be any voting in the last three rounds? Or jus...
gold school
  10/19/17
...
hideous parlor indirect expression
  10/19/17
We're looking at alternatives to the crude "voting"...
black twinkling uncleanness casino
  10/19/17
Comrades Maduro and Mugabe are intrigued by your ideas, and ...
gold school
  10/19/17
...
razzmatazz fortuitous meteor
  10/19/17
"-To mitigate spamming by pumo/quotemo alts, all round ...
Appetizing Underhanded Orchestra Pit
  10/19/17
he needed to include that language so he can arbitrarily rev...
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  10/19/17
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  10/19/17
shut up fag
maize insecure brunch idiot
  10/19/17
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glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
All voting will be done by a vetted and trusted committee co...
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  10/19/17
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Gay unholy forum
  10/19/17
...
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
No.
boyish circlehead
  10/19/17
so the person running this can reverse any vote as he'd like...
arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier
  10/19/17
Completely wrong. No one has any unilateral power. That was ...
black twinkling uncleanness casino
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lol what shitty rules. this sounds terrible.
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
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ebony impressive point
  10/19/17
The low-seeds-for-semifinalists actually has a good idea beh...
Canary mind-boggling bbw spot
  10/19/17
seeding good posters with lower seeds accomplishes the exact...
arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier
  10/19/17
Exactly, this idea is terrible. The way to have good tournam...
Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/19/17
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Provocative Haunted Graveyard Hell
  10/19/17
how would you feel about running this year's MPM?
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
I'd be open to it, but then I'd have to drop out and I will ...
Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/19/17
? who says you have to drop out? i seeded myself in the firs...
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
Fair enough. Creating the "whitelist" sounds li...
Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/19/17
not that hard. all 128 contestants last year are automati...
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
...
aquamarine indian lodge
  10/19/17
lol askav just lol
vibrant ruddy dilemma
  12/27/17
I'm all for you running it bro, I don't think you'd need to ...
amethyst church building
  10/19/17
not exactly - we're assuming imperfect seeding (there were a...
Canary mind-boggling bbw spot
  10/19/17
beneath a certain tier everyone is pretty much at the same l...
arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier
  10/19/17
for seeding, people running MPM should just create a thread ...
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
i think poasters should nominate other poasters as has been ...
arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier
  10/19/17
yeah. seeding is important and should be run by the people. ...
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
four tiers might be enough but i think the uneven distributi...
arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier
  10/19/17
whether it's 16-16-96 or 16-16-32-64, i agree. top tiers are...
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
This could work. Propose an opening list of 128 sudos who we...
Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/19/17
whatever choice you ultimately make will be better than what...
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
For the time being I'll defer to my dog. If he wants assista...
Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/19/17
? uh, original MPM runner here. i reject the heretics. I ...
glittery very tactful pocket flask
  10/19/17
the low seeding of top posters idea is actually extremely du...
arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier
  10/19/17
Charles is winning no matter what, who cares. He is the xo e...
effete useless scourge upon the earth half-breed
  10/19/17
This was an entertaining read, but who's running the real on...
ebony impressive point
  10/19/17
My dog
boyish circlehead
  10/19/17
Nope. The sooner you accept it the better it will be for you...
black twinkling uncleanness casino
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Lol. We'll see.
boyish circlehead
  10/19/17
Cr
amethyst church building
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Also expand tournament to 256
mustard nibblets
  10/19/17
Stay tuned... ;)
black twinkling uncleanness casino
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no fucking way
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  10/19/17
Crypto+exeunt >> you
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  10/19/17
(exeunt)
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oh, my god - bad motherfucker is an literally agent of chaos...
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Bronze School Cafeteria Ceo
  10/19/17
The DNC 2016 primary process was more fair and transparent t...
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  10/19/17
(former MPM hoast)
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Oh hai, Watchman tp.
Mint talking electric furnace
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Not watchmen, sorry. Look on the bright side, you can com...
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Oh hai, Watchman tp.
Mint talking electric furnace
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glittery very tactful pocket flask
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Odious new version abode
  10/20/17
I'm an unimportant poaster (but a daily lurker since 2011), ...
godawful center clown
  10/19/17
My dog isn't gone. No reason he can't do again if he wants.
Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/19/17
He is a lazy underachiever
mustard nibblets
  10/20/17
oh, my god! watchmen is him not clearly - i simpljy do not k...
Puce heaven rigor
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?
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harsh locus
  10/19/17
lol this is so funny
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lmao at how upset everyone got over this flame
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Emerald Area
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Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/20/17
That includes you buddy
arousing address becky
  10/20/17
What's your point? Was still 180.
Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life
  10/20/17
Idk just getting in a Coldplay fan mindset
arousing address becky
  10/20/17
jfc
Bronze School Cafeteria Ceo
  10/20/17


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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

lawman8 sucks cock!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478451)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 11:54 PM
Author: burgundy comical resort jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#43581666)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:49 AM
Author: Gay unholy forum

*pulls fake silk shirts out of your ass*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478471)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:50 AM
Author: walnut doctorate

180 can't wait

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478477)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: Bronze School Cafeteria Ceo

I support #1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478526)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: maize insecure brunch idiot

kill urself faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478541)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: Laughsome box office hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478561)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:30 PM
Author: carmine soul-stirring market idea he suggested

(all quarter finalists in their timed posts)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479619)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:35 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479666)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:36 PM
Author: hideous parlor indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479676)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:41 PM
Author: ebony impressive point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479725)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:43 PM
Author: maize insecure brunch idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479749)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:18 PM
Author: shivering blathering location wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34483684)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: hideous parlor indirect expression

"and convert any remaining doubters"

lol, all you have is doubters. The delusion in your posting -> you are completely out of touch with Bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478558)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: Laughsome box office hairy legs

This will be an unmitigated disaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478560)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: harsh locus

Rach is pro crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478564)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: Bronze School Cafeteria Ceo

"pro crypto" and "pro crypto spam on xo" are 2 different things. do you remember what the front page looked like 3 months ago?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478576)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:10 AM
Author: hideous parlor indirect expression

He wants to exclude some or all of trucker threading? Unacceptable if so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478628)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: harsh locus

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478656)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

Quality content somehow related to crypto is fine (Trucker threading counts under this classification).

Robotic spam about price changes, ICOs, gains/losses etc. is not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478702)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: Bateful territorial piazza private investor

The last point is terrible. Stop ruining mpm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478574)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: Gay unholy forum

will watchman exclude all poasters on his growing enemies “List”?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478579)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:05 AM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

Watchmen is serving in a very informal advisory role - he declined an official committee seat. But even if he had accepted it, he wouldn't have unilateral power to exclude anyone (like last year's failed host did).

Don't worry. The best posters will make it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478594)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: Emerald Area

Great changes, and I can't wait for the big announcement tomorrow!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478583)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:04 AM
Author: hideous parlor indirect expression

what is great about them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478588)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Emerald Area

A long needed crackdown on alts/vote rigging.

Low seeds for prior semifinalists ensures they will have to make it on merit.

Forced content creation should be entertaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478707)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:07 AM
Author: gold school

So will there be any voting in the last three rounds? Or just the Politburo making decisions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478611)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:08 AM
Author: hideous parlor indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478618)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

We're looking at alternatives to the crude "voting" format and will update on this as appropriate.

Rest assured, decisions will be unfailingly consistent with the spirit of the board and everyone will have an equal voice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478687)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: gold school

Comrades Maduro and Mugabe are intrigued by your ideas, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478840)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: razzmatazz fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482221)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:12 AM
Author: Appetizing Underhanded Orchestra Pit

"-To mitigate spamming by pumo/quotemo alts, all round outcomes are subject to review and, in extreme cases, reversal."

Just limit voting to known unique posters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478641)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:13 AM
Author: arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier

he needed to include that language so he can arbitrarily reverse votes to ensure that he wins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478651)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: Sadistic roast beef church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478735)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: maize insecure brunch idiot

shut up fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478653)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:21 AM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478712)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: amethyst church building

All voting will be done by a vetted and trusted committee consisting of: Bad Motherfucker, Watchmen, lisa rowe, tokyorose, WMTP and Chicago Young Hustla. Letting all poasters vote is crude and outdated and why last years MPM failed. Rest assured the entire process will be consistent with bort spirit and accepted by all quality poster. The haters will be dealt with accordingly.

Stay tuned for Friday's exciting announcement, which will put all doubts to rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478796)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: Gay unholy forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478820)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478822)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:12 AM
Author: boyish circlehead

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478646)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier

so the person running this can reverse any vote as he'd like and there won't even be a vote for the last three rounds, sounds wonderful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478695)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

Completely wrong. No one has any unilateral power. That was one of the biggest problems last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478730)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

lol what shitty rules. this sounds terrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478726)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:36 PM
Author: ebony impressive point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479677)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: Canary mind-boggling bbw spot

The low-seeds-for-semifinalists actually has a good idea behind it, though is a questionable execution.

Last year more than a few great poasters who probably would have pwned in other sections of the draw got arbitrarily stuffed into evan39s section and got steamrolled either by evan or each other, while mediocre poasters went far in the weak sections.

The best thing would be to seed the fucking tournament accurately and even out talent across all the sections, but if that's impossible this may be the next best thing.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479525)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier

seeding good posters with lower seeds accomplishes the exact opposite of this

edit: see below

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479556)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life

Exactly, this idea is terrible. The way to have good tournament match-ups is to have good seeding, not arbitrarily dump posters into low seeds. That will cause big match-ups to happen in the first two rounds instead of in the final rounds like they're supposed to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479563)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Provocative Haunted Graveyard Hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479570)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

how would you feel about running this year's MPM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479596)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life

I'd be open to it, but then I'd have to drop out and I will confess I am slightly VAIN and enjoy competing in the tournament.

If My Dog feels too busy though I'd be willing to help in improving the nominations/seeding process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479695)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:40 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

? who says you have to drop out? i seeded myself in the first two MPMs, i got beat handily by better poasters, and that was that. when voting is open and notorious with well-defined voting criteria, no cheating is possible, because it's just counting, and anyone can apply the criteria and check the count. as i recall, i was corrected once or twice in my tabulation.

a whitelist of permitted sudo voters, providing a particular voting format, and giving a firm open and close time for voting pretty much solves every partiality issue.

the only cheating that can happen is when bullshit like the above is suggested.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479716)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:53 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life

Fair enough.

Creating the "whitelist" sounds like a difficult ordeal but maybe I'm overstating the difficulty. Glancing at last year's voting, it looks like MPM has really been almost entirely sudos voting, but I'm worried that could change this year with rach giving away all those alts lately and such.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479869)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:04 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

not that hard.

all 128 contestants last year are automatically whitelisted, under their known monikers only. that's thread #1. that's more just informing people. no real solicitation of opinion required.

new poasters, added to 2017's MPM using the consensus of XO plebs (using the suggested tiers or whatever), are also whitelisted. that's thread #2--who should be in it this year?

by now you have a whitelist of 128 (last year's) + new contestants who can vote.

thread #3, to be posted at least a week or two before voting--petition here to be added to the voting whitelist. that way, old dogs who happen to be around but aren't competing anymore can go under their known monikers and ask to be included. new guys who aren't yet known enough for MPM but want to be included can be. and if it's just someone's alt, i'm sure autists will comment and say "not this guy, it's just WMTP." that will be, i think, pretty much the only time you have to exercise any judgment on the matter.

not that tough, no?

that's about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479962)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:06 PM
Author: aquamarine indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34484068)



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Date: December 27th, 2017 6:25 PM
Author: vibrant ruddy dilemma

lol askav just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#35020709)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:46 PM
Author: amethyst church building

I'm all for you running it bro, I don't think you'd need to drop out as askav said

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479786)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: Canary mind-boggling bbw spot

not exactly - we're assuming imperfect seeding (there were a lot of really random and bad high seed choices in previous years, won't name names of course)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479591)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:30 PM
Author: arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier

beneath a certain tier everyone is pretty much at the same level. the issue last year was that the "point of arbitrariness" was set too high so good posters were thrown in with the pool of interchangeables. you don't need "perfect seeding" you just need to be a bit more careful with placing posters in the appropriate tier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479621)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

for seeding, people running MPM should just create a thread of known sudos and ask people to rate them as "great, good, or okay" or something.

or, perhaps to save work, the people running MPM should offer their list of 128 sudos and suggested tiers - great, good, or okay, roughly corresponding with seeds of 1-8, 9-16, and 17-32 or so - and solicit input from poasters about whether poasters are in the approximately correct tiers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479698)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:44 PM
Author: arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier

i think poasters should nominate other poasters as has been custom but your second suggestion is cr

the process last year was to vote over who got the top four seeds in each bracket, as though the specific seeds were important, and then everyone else was just scrambled around. the specific seeds really don't matter even at the top, just the tiers.

whoever runs it should come up with a top tier of 16, second tier of 16, third tier of 32, and then fourth tier of 64 (or two more tiers of 32). publish the tiers, people critique them, and they're adjusted as needed. seeds are then assigned based on those tiers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479758)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:46 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

yeah. seeding is important and should be run by the people. the methodology is less important than ensuring that seeding is crowdsourced.

the only potential issue is that you wind up approximating voting itself with certain methods, which is why you want to be pretty coarse with the designations. 3 tiers seems like enough, and 4 is certainly enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479787)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:52 PM
Author: arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier

four tiers might be enough but i think the uneven distribution is important. poster quality doesn't follow a uniform distribution and if we just had four tiers of 32 it would seem like there were people thrown into the top tier that didn't quite belong with the evan39s of the world. meanwhile the posters towards the other end of the distribution are much more similar. so i think a 16-16-32-64 distribution makes sense for tier1 - tier2 - tier3 - tier4. or 16-32-32-48.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479862)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:53 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

whether it's 16-16-96 or 16-16-32-64, i agree. top tiers are more important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479876)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:45 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life

This could work. Propose an opening list of 128 sudos who were active in the past year. Poasters can point out doubles or suggest omissions until we have a final roster of 128 (or 64 or 88 or w/e; we could always use "play-in" matches to improve things). Then, once the field is set, we can worry about seeding.

The top 16 seeds or so are probably the most important to get right, so we could have posters straight-up pick 10 or 16 posters they think belong up top, and seed based on who gets the most votes. Not sure how we'd handle the lowest seeds, though. Should it be based on nominations (i.e. put the most-hated posters the lowest) or on indifference (i.e. pick people who aren't nominated for higher seeds)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479769)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:47 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

whatever choice you ultimately make will be better than what's happening now, so let's end this charade and you run this shit. i, and other actually good poasters, will of course support you running it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479803)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:56 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life

For the time being I'll defer to my dog. If he wants assistance or wants to step aside, then we can worry about my role.

I don't want some Council of Pisa shit where we try to fix the MPM schism by just creating a new schism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479905)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask

? uh, original MPM runner here. i reject the heretics.

I tell you that you are Charles, and on this rock I will build my contest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479974)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: arrogant adventurous trailer park sound barrier

the low seeding of top posters idea is actually extremely dumb

the issue with seeding last year was that good seeding was extremely arbitrary, so in some brackets you had two very good posters matched up in the early rounds knocking each other out while mediocre posters cruised through for a few rounds in other brackets

if you're replacing the top posters with "next-best" posters at top seeds then you're just institutionalizing this problem. good posters be matched up against each other early and will knock each other out while the mediocre posters ranked in between them will coast through for a while

seeding should be standard. top posters at top spots, lower posters beneath them. worse posters exit earlier and top posters still inevitably face each other once the field is narrowed so nobody is getting a "free pass" just by being seeded at the top. people stick around for as long as they should.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479588)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: effete useless scourge upon the earth half-breed

Charles is winning no matter what, who cares. He is the xo equivalent of the '95-'96 Bulls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479594)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: ebony impressive point

This was an entertaining read, but who's running the real one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479689)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:41 PM
Author: boyish circlehead

My dog

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479726)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:46 PM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

Nope. The sooner you accept it the better it will be for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479785)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:47 PM
Author: boyish circlehead

Lol. We'll see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479802)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:47 PM
Author: amethyst church building

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479794)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: mustard nibblets

Also expand tournament to 256

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34480421)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

Stay tuned... ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34480796)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:23 PM
Author: Odious new version abode

no fucking way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34483718)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: Razzle Narrow-minded Site

Crypto+exeunt >> you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34480980)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 4:43 PM
Author: Magenta tantric keepsake machete house

(exeunt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481263)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 5:22 PM
Author: Puce heaven rigor

oh, my god - bad motherfucker is an literally agent of chaos - and subversife, too! i am swedish by the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481590)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 5:41 PM
Author: Bronze School Cafeteria Ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481759)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Mint talking electric furnace

The DNC 2016 primary process was more fair and transparent than Watchman's proposal here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481909)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:14 PM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

(former MPM hoast)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481996)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:15 PM
Author: Mint talking electric furnace

Oh hai, Watchman tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482003)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:18 PM
Author: black twinkling uncleanness casino

Not watchmen, sorry.

Look on the bright side, you can compete this year! Though I suggest you request a slot in the qualifying pre-tournament, tbh. You're a longshot to make the main bracket outright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482024)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Mint talking electric furnace

Oh hai, Watchman tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482186)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:19 PM
Author: glittery very tactful pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482030)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Odious new version abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34486522)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 7:23 PM
Author: godawful center clown

I'm an unimportant poaster (but a daily lurker since 2011), but I'd recommend someone else self-declare as the organizer for MPM. This is clearly a WMTP alt and WMTP comes off as pretty unhinged to me. He also has a lot of beef with people and I doubt he can run it objectively. Just my $0.02

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482546)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 7:24 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life

My dog isn't gone. No reason he can't do again if he wants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482551)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 9:01 AM
Author: mustard nibblets

He is a lazy underachiever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34485753)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 7:30 PM
Author: Puce heaven rigor

oh, my god! watchmen is him not clearly - i simpljy do not know what to say. i am swedish by the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482581)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 7:37 PM
Author: Flesh nofapping hospital cuckold

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482621)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:24 PM
Author: harsh locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34483723)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:25 PM
Author: Excitant psychic field

lol this is so funny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34483730)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: frum business firm ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34486576)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: Chestnut multi-colored sanctuary candlestick maker

lmao at how upset everyone got over this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487006)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: Emerald Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487015)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:28 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487034)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:48 PM
Author: arousing address becky

That includes you buddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487256)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Olive Mad Cow Disease Love Of Her Life

What's your point? Was still 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487266)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: arousing address becky

Idk just getting in a Coldplay fan mindset

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487288)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Bronze School Cafeteria Ceo

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487962)