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***MPM2017 ANNOUNCEMENT - RULE AND FORMAT CHANGES***

lawman8 sucks cock!
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
...
Diverse very tactful elastic band jew
  12/08/21
*pulls fake silk shirts out of your ass*
Tan Incel Rehab
  10/19/17
180 can't wait
Electric Regret Pit
  10/19/17
I support #1
Saffron volcanic crater
  10/19/17
kill urself faggot
canary bull headed depressive electric furnace
  10/19/17
...
Passionate stage
  10/19/17
(all quarter finalists in their timed posts)
Gay forum
  10/19/17
...
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/19/17
...
Emerald comical tank theater stage
  10/19/17
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sooty gay wizard juggernaut
  10/19/17
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canary bull headed depressive electric furnace
  10/19/17
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180 karate stag film
  10/19/17
"and convert any remaining doubters" lol, all you...
Emerald comical tank theater stage
  10/19/17
This will be an unmitigated disaster
Passionate stage
  10/19/17
Rach is pro crypto
bat-shit-crazy charismatic dog poop
  10/19/17
"pro crypto" and "pro crypto spam on xo"...
Saffron volcanic crater
  10/19/17
He wants to exclude some or all of trucker threading? Unacc...
Emerald comical tank theater stage
  10/19/17
Cr
bat-shit-crazy charismatic dog poop
  10/19/17
Quality content somehow related to crypto is fine (Trucker t...
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
The last point is terrible. Stop ruining mpm
vivacious embarrassed to the bone ticket booth
  10/19/17
will watchman exclude all poasters on his growing enemies “L...
Tan Incel Rehab
  10/19/17
Watchmen is serving in a very informal advisory role - he de...
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
Great changes, and I can't wait for the big announcement tom...
Cerise Splenetic Turdskin
  10/19/17
what is great about them?
Emerald comical tank theater stage
  10/19/17
A long needed crackdown on alts/vote rigging. Low seeds f...
Cerise Splenetic Turdskin
  10/19/17
So will there be any voting in the last three rounds? Or jus...
Zombie-like Affirmative Action Community Account
  10/19/17
...
Emerald comical tank theater stage
  10/19/17
We're looking at alternatives to the crude "voting"...
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
Comrades Maduro and Mugabe are intrigued by your ideas, and ...
Zombie-like Affirmative Action Community Account
  10/19/17
...
puce galvanic stead shitlib
  10/19/17
"-To mitigate spamming by pumo/quotemo alts, all round ...
Amethyst love of her life background story
  10/19/17
he needed to include that language so he can arbitrarily rev...
pea-brained disgusting market
  10/19/17
...
violet address nibblets
  10/19/17
shut up fag
canary bull headed depressive electric furnace
  10/19/17
...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
All voting will be done by a vetted and trusted committee co...
Cheese-eating dopamine preventive strike
  10/19/17
...
Tan Incel Rehab
  10/19/17
...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
No.
azure sex offender home
  10/19/17
so the person running this can reverse any vote as he'd like...
pea-brained disgusting market
  10/19/17
Completely wrong. No one has any unilateral power. That was ...
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
lol what shitty rules. this sounds terrible.
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
...
sooty gay wizard juggernaut
  10/19/17
The low-seeds-for-semifinalists actually has a good idea beh...
Avocado exciting meetinghouse
  10/19/17
seeding good posters with lower seeds accomplishes the exact...
pea-brained disgusting market
  10/19/17
Exactly, this idea is terrible. The way to have good tournam...
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/19/17
...
Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Lay Organic Girlfriend
  10/19/17
how would you feel about running this year's MPM?
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
I'd be open to it, but then I'd have to drop out and I will ...
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/19/17
? who says you have to drop out? i seeded myself in the firs...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
Fair enough. Creating the "whitelist" sounds li...
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/19/17
not that hard. all 128 contestants last year are automati...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
...
Unhinged Athletic Conference Haunted Graveyard
  10/19/17
lol askav just lol
Impertinent titillating abode personal credit line
  12/27/17
I'm all for you running it bro, I don't think you'd need to ...
Cheese-eating dopamine preventive strike
  10/19/17
not exactly - we're assuming imperfect seeding (there were a...
Avocado exciting meetinghouse
  10/19/17
beneath a certain tier everyone is pretty much at the same l...
pea-brained disgusting market
  10/19/17
for seeding, people running MPM should just create a thread ...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
i think poasters should nominate other poasters as has been ...
pea-brained disgusting market
  10/19/17
yeah. seeding is important and should be run by the people. ...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
four tiers might be enough but i think the uneven distributi...
pea-brained disgusting market
  10/19/17
whether it's 16-16-96 or 16-16-32-64, i agree. top tiers are...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
This could work. Propose an opening list of 128 sudos who we...
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/19/17
whatever choice you ultimately make will be better than what...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
For the time being I'll defer to my dog. If he wants assista...
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/19/17
? uh, original MPM runner here. i reject the heretics. I ...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
the low seeding of top posters idea is actually extremely du...
pea-brained disgusting market
  10/19/17
Charles is winning no matter what, who cares. He is the xo e...
Garnet Whorehouse
  10/19/17
This was an entertaining read, but who's running the real on...
sooty gay wizard juggernaut
  10/19/17
My dog
azure sex offender home
  10/19/17
Nope. The sooner you accept it the better it will be for you...
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
Lol. We'll see.
azure sex offender home
  10/19/17
Cr
Cheese-eating dopamine preventive strike
  10/19/17
Also expand tournament to 256
Brilliant insecure kitty old irish cottage
  10/19/17
Stay tuned... ;)
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
no fucking way
Lavender glittery locale fat ankles
  10/19/17
Crypto+exeunt >> you
swashbuckling sticky rigpig
  10/19/17
(exeunt)
French hairraiser point
  10/19/17
oh, my god - bad motherfucker is an literally agent of chaos...
excitant rose headpube bawdyhouse
  10/19/17
...
Saffron volcanic crater
  10/19/17
The DNC 2016 primary process was more fair and transparent t...
Insane Opaque Mental Disorder
  10/19/17
(former MPM hoast)
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
Oh hai, Watchman tp.
Insane Opaque Mental Disorder
  10/19/17
Not watchmen, sorry. Look on the bright side, you can com...
Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate
  10/19/17
Oh hai, Watchman tp.
Insane Opaque Mental Disorder
  10/19/17
...
lascivious crackhouse
  10/19/17
...
Lavender glittery locale fat ankles
  10/20/17
I'm an unimportant poaster (but a daily lurker since 2011), ...
Laughsome school
  10/19/17
My dog isn't gone. No reason he can't do again if he wants.
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/19/17
He is a lazy underachiever
Brilliant insecure kitty old irish cottage
  10/20/17
oh, my god! watchmen is him not clearly - i simpljy do not k...
excitant rose headpube bawdyhouse
  10/19/17
?
Rough-skinned menage
  10/19/17
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bat-shit-crazy charismatic dog poop
  10/19/17
lol this is so funny
dashing mauve box office ratface
  10/19/17
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Magical Nubile Set
  10/20/17
lmao at how upset everyone got over this flame
Racy location stock car
  10/20/17
...
Cerise Splenetic Turdskin
  10/20/17
...
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/20/17
That includes you buddy
histrionic spot doctorate
  10/20/17
What's your point? Was still 180.
Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck
  10/20/17
Idk just getting in a Coldplay fan mindset
histrionic spot doctorate
  10/20/17
jfc
Saffron volcanic crater
  10/20/17


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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

lawman8 sucks cock!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478451)



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Date: December 8th, 2021 11:54 PM
Author: Diverse very tactful elastic band jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#43581666)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:49 AM
Author: Tan Incel Rehab

*pulls fake silk shirts out of your ass*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478471)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:50 AM
Author: Electric Regret Pit

180 can't wait

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478477)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: Saffron volcanic crater

I support #1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478526)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: canary bull headed depressive electric furnace

kill urself faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478541)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: Passionate stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478561)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:30 PM
Author: Gay forum

(all quarter finalists in their timed posts)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479619)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:35 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479666)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:36 PM
Author: Emerald comical tank theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479676)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:41 PM
Author: sooty gay wizard juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479725)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:43 PM
Author: canary bull headed depressive electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479749)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:18 PM
Author: 180 karate stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34483684)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: Emerald comical tank theater stage

"and convert any remaining doubters"

lol, all you have is doubters. The delusion in your posting -> you are completely out of touch with Bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478558)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: Passionate stage

This will be an unmitigated disaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478560)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy charismatic dog poop

Rach is pro crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478564)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: Saffron volcanic crater

"pro crypto" and "pro crypto spam on xo" are 2 different things. do you remember what the front page looked like 3 months ago?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478576)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:10 AM
Author: Emerald comical tank theater stage

He wants to exclude some or all of trucker threading? Unacceptable if so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478628)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy charismatic dog poop

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478656)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

Quality content somehow related to crypto is fine (Trucker threading counts under this classification).

Robotic spam about price changes, ICOs, gains/losses etc. is not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478702)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: vivacious embarrassed to the bone ticket booth

The last point is terrible. Stop ruining mpm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478574)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: Tan Incel Rehab

will watchman exclude all poasters on his growing enemies “List”?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478579)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:05 AM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

Watchmen is serving in a very informal advisory role - he declined an official committee seat. But even if he had accepted it, he wouldn't have unilateral power to exclude anyone (like last year's failed host did).

Don't worry. The best posters will make it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478594)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: Cerise Splenetic Turdskin

Great changes, and I can't wait for the big announcement tomorrow!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478583)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:04 AM
Author: Emerald comical tank theater stage

what is great about them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478588)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Cerise Splenetic Turdskin

A long needed crackdown on alts/vote rigging.

Low seeds for prior semifinalists ensures they will have to make it on merit.

Forced content creation should be entertaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478707)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:07 AM
Author: Zombie-like Affirmative Action Community Account

So will there be any voting in the last three rounds? Or just the Politburo making decisions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478611)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:08 AM
Author: Emerald comical tank theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478618)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

We're looking at alternatives to the crude "voting" format and will update on this as appropriate.

Rest assured, decisions will be unfailingly consistent with the spirit of the board and everyone will have an equal voice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478687)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: Zombie-like Affirmative Action Community Account

Comrades Maduro and Mugabe are intrigued by your ideas, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478840)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: puce galvanic stead shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482221)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:12 AM
Author: Amethyst love of her life background story

"-To mitigate spamming by pumo/quotemo alts, all round outcomes are subject to review and, in extreme cases, reversal."

Just limit voting to known unique posters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478641)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:13 AM
Author: pea-brained disgusting market

he needed to include that language so he can arbitrarily reverse votes to ensure that he wins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478651)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: violet address nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478735)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: canary bull headed depressive electric furnace

shut up fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478653)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:21 AM
Author: lascivious crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478712)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: Cheese-eating dopamine preventive strike

All voting will be done by a vetted and trusted committee consisting of: Bad Motherfucker, Watchmen, lisa rowe, tokyorose, WMTP and Chicago Young Hustla. Letting all poasters vote is crude and outdated and why last years MPM failed. Rest assured the entire process will be consistent with bort spirit and accepted by all quality poster. The haters will be dealt with accordingly.

Stay tuned for Friday's exciting announcement, which will put all doubts to rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478796)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: Tan Incel Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478820)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: lascivious crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478822)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:12 AM
Author: azure sex offender home

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478646)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: pea-brained disgusting market

so the person running this can reverse any vote as he'd like and there won't even be a vote for the last three rounds, sounds wonderful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478695)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

Completely wrong. No one has any unilateral power. That was one of the biggest problems last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478730)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

lol what shitty rules. this sounds terrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34478726)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:36 PM
Author: sooty gay wizard juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479677)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: Avocado exciting meetinghouse

The low-seeds-for-semifinalists actually has a good idea behind it, though is a questionable execution.

Last year more than a few great poasters who probably would have pwned in other sections of the draw got arbitrarily stuffed into evan39s section and got steamrolled either by evan or each other, while mediocre poasters went far in the weak sections.

The best thing would be to seed the fucking tournament accurately and even out talent across all the sections, but if that's impossible this may be the next best thing.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479525)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: pea-brained disgusting market

seeding good posters with lower seeds accomplishes the exact opposite of this

edit: see below

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479556)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck

Exactly, this idea is terrible. The way to have good tournament match-ups is to have good seeding, not arbitrarily dump posters into low seeds. That will cause big match-ups to happen in the first two rounds instead of in the final rounds like they're supposed to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479563)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Nighttime Razzle-dazzle Lay Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479570)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

how would you feel about running this year's MPM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479596)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck

I'd be open to it, but then I'd have to drop out and I will confess I am slightly VAIN and enjoy competing in the tournament.

If My Dog feels too busy though I'd be willing to help in improving the nominations/seeding process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479695)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:40 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

? who says you have to drop out? i seeded myself in the first two MPMs, i got beat handily by better poasters, and that was that. when voting is open and notorious with well-defined voting criteria, no cheating is possible, because it's just counting, and anyone can apply the criteria and check the count. as i recall, i was corrected once or twice in my tabulation.

a whitelist of permitted sudo voters, providing a particular voting format, and giving a firm open and close time for voting pretty much solves every partiality issue.

the only cheating that can happen is when bullshit like the above is suggested.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479716)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:53 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck

Fair enough.

Creating the "whitelist" sounds like a difficult ordeal but maybe I'm overstating the difficulty. Glancing at last year's voting, it looks like MPM has really been almost entirely sudos voting, but I'm worried that could change this year with rach giving away all those alts lately and such.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479869)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:04 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

not that hard.

all 128 contestants last year are automatically whitelisted, under their known monikers only. that's thread #1. that's more just informing people. no real solicitation of opinion required.

new poasters, added to 2017's MPM using the consensus of XO plebs (using the suggested tiers or whatever), are also whitelisted. that's thread #2--who should be in it this year?

by now you have a whitelist of 128 (last year's) + new contestants who can vote.

thread #3, to be posted at least a week or two before voting--petition here to be added to the voting whitelist. that way, old dogs who happen to be around but aren't competing anymore can go under their known monikers and ask to be included. new guys who aren't yet known enough for MPM but want to be included can be. and if it's just someone's alt, i'm sure autists will comment and say "not this guy, it's just WMTP." that will be, i think, pretty much the only time you have to exercise any judgment on the matter.

not that tough, no?

that's about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479962)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:06 PM
Author: Unhinged Athletic Conference Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34484068)



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Date: December 27th, 2017 6:25 PM
Author: Impertinent titillating abode personal credit line

lol askav just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#35020709)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:46 PM
Author: Cheese-eating dopamine preventive strike

I'm all for you running it bro, I don't think you'd need to drop out as askav said

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479786)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: Avocado exciting meetinghouse

not exactly - we're assuming imperfect seeding (there were a lot of really random and bad high seed choices in previous years, won't name names of course)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479591)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:30 PM
Author: pea-brained disgusting market

beneath a certain tier everyone is pretty much at the same level. the issue last year was that the "point of arbitrariness" was set too high so good posters were thrown in with the pool of interchangeables. you don't need "perfect seeding" you just need to be a bit more careful with placing posters in the appropriate tier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479621)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

for seeding, people running MPM should just create a thread of known sudos and ask people to rate them as "great, good, or okay" or something.

or, perhaps to save work, the people running MPM should offer their list of 128 sudos and suggested tiers - great, good, or okay, roughly corresponding with seeds of 1-8, 9-16, and 17-32 or so - and solicit input from poasters about whether poasters are in the approximately correct tiers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479698)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:44 PM
Author: pea-brained disgusting market

i think poasters should nominate other poasters as has been custom but your second suggestion is cr

the process last year was to vote over who got the top four seeds in each bracket, as though the specific seeds were important, and then everyone else was just scrambled around. the specific seeds really don't matter even at the top, just the tiers.

whoever runs it should come up with a top tier of 16, second tier of 16, third tier of 32, and then fourth tier of 64 (or two more tiers of 32). publish the tiers, people critique them, and they're adjusted as needed. seeds are then assigned based on those tiers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479758)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:46 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

yeah. seeding is important and should be run by the people. the methodology is less important than ensuring that seeding is crowdsourced.

the only potential issue is that you wind up approximating voting itself with certain methods, which is why you want to be pretty coarse with the designations. 3 tiers seems like enough, and 4 is certainly enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479787)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:52 PM
Author: pea-brained disgusting market

four tiers might be enough but i think the uneven distribution is important. poster quality doesn't follow a uniform distribution and if we just had four tiers of 32 it would seem like there were people thrown into the top tier that didn't quite belong with the evan39s of the world. meanwhile the posters towards the other end of the distribution are much more similar. so i think a 16-16-32-64 distribution makes sense for tier1 - tier2 - tier3 - tier4. or 16-32-32-48.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479862)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:53 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

whether it's 16-16-96 or 16-16-32-64, i agree. top tiers are more important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479876)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:45 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck

This could work. Propose an opening list of 128 sudos who were active in the past year. Poasters can point out doubles or suggest omissions until we have a final roster of 128 (or 64 or 88 or w/e; we could always use "play-in" matches to improve things). Then, once the field is set, we can worry about seeding.

The top 16 seeds or so are probably the most important to get right, so we could have posters straight-up pick 10 or 16 posters they think belong up top, and seed based on who gets the most votes. Not sure how we'd handle the lowest seeds, though. Should it be based on nominations (i.e. put the most-hated posters the lowest) or on indifference (i.e. pick people who aren't nominated for higher seeds)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479769)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:47 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

whatever choice you ultimately make will be better than what's happening now, so let's end this charade and you run this shit. i, and other actually good poasters, will of course support you running it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479803)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:56 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck

For the time being I'll defer to my dog. If he wants assistance or wants to step aside, then we can worry about my role.

I don't want some Council of Pisa shit where we try to fix the MPM schism by just creating a new schism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479905)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse

? uh, original MPM runner here. i reject the heretics.

I tell you that you are Charles, and on this rock I will build my contest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479974)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: pea-brained disgusting market

the low seeding of top posters idea is actually extremely dumb

the issue with seeding last year was that good seeding was extremely arbitrary, so in some brackets you had two very good posters matched up in the early rounds knocking each other out while mediocre posters cruised through for a few rounds in other brackets

if you're replacing the top posters with "next-best" posters at top seeds then you're just institutionalizing this problem. good posters be matched up against each other early and will knock each other out while the mediocre posters ranked in between them will coast through for a while

seeding should be standard. top posters at top spots, lower posters beneath them. worse posters exit earlier and top posters still inevitably face each other once the field is narrowed so nobody is getting a "free pass" just by being seeded at the top. people stick around for as long as they should.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479588)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: Garnet Whorehouse

Charles is winning no matter what, who cares. He is the xo equivalent of the '95-'96 Bulls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479594)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: sooty gay wizard juggernaut

This was an entertaining read, but who's running the real one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479689)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:41 PM
Author: azure sex offender home

My dog

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479726)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:46 PM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

Nope. The sooner you accept it the better it will be for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479785)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:47 PM
Author: azure sex offender home

Lol. We'll see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479802)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:47 PM
Author: Cheese-eating dopamine preventive strike

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34479794)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Brilliant insecure kitty old irish cottage

Also expand tournament to 256

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34480421)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

Stay tuned... ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34480796)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:23 PM
Author: Lavender glittery locale fat ankles

no fucking way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34483718)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: swashbuckling sticky rigpig

Crypto+exeunt >> you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34480980)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 4:43 PM
Author: French hairraiser point

(exeunt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481263)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 5:22 PM
Author: excitant rose headpube bawdyhouse

oh, my god - bad motherfucker is an literally agent of chaos - and subversife, too! i am swedish by the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481590)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 5:41 PM
Author: Saffron volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481759)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Insane Opaque Mental Disorder

The DNC 2016 primary process was more fair and transparent than Watchman's proposal here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481909)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:14 PM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

(former MPM hoast)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34481996)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:15 PM
Author: Insane Opaque Mental Disorder

Oh hai, Watchman tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482003)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:18 PM
Author: Slimy Crystalline Area Roommate

Not watchmen, sorry.

Look on the bright side, you can compete this year! Though I suggest you request a slot in the qualifying pre-tournament, tbh. You're a longshot to make the main bracket outright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482024)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Insane Opaque Mental Disorder

Oh hai, Watchman tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482186)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:19 PM
Author: lascivious crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482030)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Lavender glittery locale fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34486522)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 7:23 PM
Author: Laughsome school

I'm an unimportant poaster (but a daily lurker since 2011), but I'd recommend someone else self-declare as the organizer for MPM. This is clearly a WMTP alt and WMTP comes off as pretty unhinged to me. He also has a lot of beef with people and I doubt he can run it objectively. Just my $0.02

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482546)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 7:24 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck

My dog isn't gone. No reason he can't do again if he wants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482551)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 9:01 AM
Author: Brilliant insecure kitty old irish cottage

He is a lazy underachiever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34485753)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 7:30 PM
Author: excitant rose headpube bawdyhouse

oh, my god! watchmen is him not clearly - i simpljy do not know what to say. i am swedish by the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482581)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 7:37 PM
Author: Rough-skinned menage

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34482621)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:24 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy charismatic dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34483723)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:25 PM
Author: dashing mauve box office ratface

lol this is so funny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34483730)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: Magical Nubile Set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34486576)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: Racy location stock car

lmao at how upset everyone got over this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487006)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: Cerise Splenetic Turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487015)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:28 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487034)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:48 PM
Author: histrionic spot doctorate

That includes you buddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487256)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: Wonderful Rusted Partner Cuck

What's your point? Was still 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487266)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: histrionic spot doctorate

Idk just getting in a Coldplay fan mindset

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487288)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Saffron volcanic crater

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768569&forum_id=2#34487962)